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IndianaDave

(612 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:55 AM Mar 2017

How Ironic Is It That the Same People Who Are Adamantly Opposed to Releasing Trump's Tax Returns

have voted to give everyone access to everyone else's Internet browsing histories? It appears that personal privacy exists only for the one person who seems to have a lot to hide, and whose financial history affects all of us. Every day, living in our democracy gets crazier and crazier. Damn!

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How Ironic Is It That the Same People Who Are Adamantly Opposed to Releasing Trump's Tax Returns (Original Post) IndianaDave Mar 2017 OP
K & r x 100000000000 bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #1
Linking by this to the Pic of the Monent underpants Mar 2017 #2
Let's see if any Senators search for kitty porn FakeNoose Mar 2017 #21
. . . CousinIT Mar 2017 #3
The 4th Reich is very near! lark Mar 2017 #4
A friend in Australia keeps reminding me Enoki33 Mar 2017 #5
Nice way of saying we are irrational and about to come a guster Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #38
I thought we were resisting moflower Mar 2017 #39
What would be your theory? Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #42
What do you mean "democracy", Kimo Sabe? 90-percent Mar 2017 #6
I can't say I don't see the same things you point out - IndianaDave Mar 2017 #8
Dave - I'm also optimistic 90-percent Mar 2017 #23
No kidding! calimary Mar 2017 #7
As the much-missed George Carlin used to say... 3_Limes Mar 2017 #9
There's that and pretty much any policy of Trump's leads to me saying MrPurple Mar 2017 #37
Get used to "government overreach" gratuitous Mar 2017 #10
Yeah - They really are using that a lot. They also love to use the phrase IndianaDave Mar 2017 #12
God da### Cosmocat Mar 2017 #15
The irony is pretty thick isn't it Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #11
The same question can be asked Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #13
Yes! Excellent point. IndianaDave Mar 2017 #14
Right? Cosmocat Mar 2017 #17
Undocumented immigrants pay taxes IronLionZion Mar 2017 #16
They had no problems getting into the tax files of those conservative groups 3 or 4 years ago... kentuck Mar 2017 #18
I makes perfect sense ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #19
just read today abt Pence's AOL acct & his close ties to Manafort wordpix Mar 2017 #26
This is the so-called party of personal freedom? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #20
I tried to get thru to toomey to let him know this is not wright only able leave voicemail TEB Mar 2017 #22
Meanwhile... Fritz Walter Mar 2017 #24
good point, pls. make it to every f-ing R w/in hearing distance wordpix Mar 2017 #25
It's not the irony that gets me. It's the hypocrisy. Norbert9 Mar 2017 #27
BINGO!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Mar 2017 #31
Yes - Their hypocrisy is disgusting. Great addition to this post. IndianaDave Mar 2017 #36
I was dying to know trumpers' response on this...nada. So visited the land o' the freep. I think Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #28
This is valuable information, and I welcome it. Thank you! IndianaDave Mar 2017 #34
wow this guy who ALWAYS backs everything they do just called them 'RepubliCONS' and he's pissed luvMIdog Mar 2017 #29
excellent point stuffmatters Mar 2017 #30
Yeah, they're snoopers but must hide the asshole's tax returns. Cha Mar 2017 #32
Exactly!! IndianaDave Mar 2017 #35
I think this Congress' clusterfuck will get very personal for some of them. Baitball Blogger Mar 2017 #33
Fight back, spread the poison pill ck4829 Mar 2017 #40
That's some weird shit, republican-russian style Achilleaze Mar 2017 #41

lark

(23,094 posts)
4. The 4th Reich is very near!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:29 PM
Mar 2017

Hair Furor is leading the way down the path of treachery and way too many Repugs are saying, Heil Drumpf, for their own personal profit and to hurt the working class.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
5. A friend in Australia keeps reminding me
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:33 PM
Mar 2017

that we are a country of great contradictions. Maybe he is just sugar coating it. Hopefully the resistance will change that.

 

moflower

(7 posts)
39. I thought we were resisting
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:05 AM
Mar 2017

This was passed with 51 votes. Who voted for cloture. Why wasn't this filibustered?

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
6. What do you mean "democracy", Kimo Sabe?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:47 PM
Mar 2017

We've been building up a pretty spiffy OLIGARCHY for the last forty or fifty years. Now we will be transitioning into full blown KLEPTOCRACY in the next few months.

All it will take to implement all the police state laws and apparatus to impose tyranny is another big terrorist attack or maybe somebody deranged in the world will use nukes?

Who cares, anyway. The world will incinerate if we don't do something to stop climate change. I think our time window left is TEN YEARS.


-90% Jimmy

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
8. I can't say I don't see the same things you point out -
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:54 PM
Mar 2017

but I'm still optimistic that so many are resisting these trends, especially now that Trump has become a catalyst for action and change. I hope your scenario is defeated by good people and smart policies. But I really appreciate your contribution to the discussion, 90! - Dave

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
23. Dave - I'm also optimistic
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:00 PM
Mar 2017

But we all got to do what Frank Zappa attributed to his success:

"First, don't sop. Second, keep going."

And he persevered, and he failed repeatedly, but his faith in himself kept him going. Truly an inspiration in my life for the last 36 years.

We are making a difference SHOWING UP and I'm 63, so I feel I should get beat up by the US gestapo for the cause of our Democracy. Dickheads my age having been sending desperate kids off to play military roulette for stupidity and lies. We should return the sacrifice.

I've been "showing up" since 9/11 and carrying a sign at the Sept 10, 2011, Hartford state capital that read:

TEABAGGERS ARE ASTROTURF PUPPETS OF FASCIST CORPORATIONS.

I did not know at the time "teabaggers" was an offensive pejorative. HONEST.

Most told me I was an agent of either ACORN or GEORGE SOROS.

And my sign didn't go viral! Met some nice types. I try to be open minded and there's some aspects of REAL Conservative that aren't that bad, in terms of running a government. Don't ask me to name any, however!


welcome to DU.

Make them open up Gary US 30 dragway there. It still exists!

-90% Jimmy

3_Limes

(363 posts)
9. As the much-missed George Carlin used to say...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:55 PM
Mar 2017

"It's the golden rule - the ones with the gold make the rules."

MrPurple

(985 posts)
37. There's that and pretty much any policy of Trump's leads to me saying
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:00 AM
Mar 2017

shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Get used to "government overreach"
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

It seems to be the new talking point for every destructive action the Republicans are taking. It's "government overreach" if you don't want your ISP to sell your browsing history without your consent, and certainly without compensation. It's "government overreach" if you want clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. It's "government overreach" if you don't want government contracts let to outfits that fuck over their employees with labor law violations.

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
12. Yeah - They really are using that a lot. They also love to use the phrase
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:04 PM
Mar 2017

"Commonsense reform." As we know, it's all BS!

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
15. God da###
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

How fucking stupid are the people of this country (ie republicans).

These fuckers are voting to allow ISP provides to turn a buck off of us and THEIR STUPID ASSES to keep our information private.

And, mention this to any republican rank and file and they will babble over regulation, government over reach, etc.

JHC ...

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
13. The same question can be asked
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:10 PM
Mar 2017

to all of the right-wing groups that have spent years on seemingly endless fishing expeditions trying to get all kinds of records on the Clintons, Obamas, etc to distort, smear them with? But, hey, no worries about Trump because he's one of their own and will sign their crazy s**t into law, right?

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
16. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

undocumented presidents, not so much.

How do they reconcile this with their paranoid tinfoil hat wearing voters?



kentuck

(111,079 posts)
18. They had no problems getting into the tax files of those conservative groups 3 or 4 years ago...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:10 PM
Mar 2017

When the Tea Party was raising hell about the lady from the IRS not treating the conservative groups fairly, did they?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. I makes perfect sense
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:20 PM
Mar 2017

Protect the wealthy while scamming the poor.


However, is Pence's AOL account info being sold? I wonder if they provided lists of people whose info should not be sold.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
26. just read today abt Pence's AOL acct & his close ties to Manafort
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:20 PM
Mar 2017

On another thread, ppl are speculating why he's Manafort's VP choice.

My guess, something to do w/Trumprussia

Reports are that Pence was the one person on the transition team that Manafort called often.

TEB

(12,841 posts)
22. I tried to get thru to toomey to let him know this is not wright only able leave voicemail
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:33 PM
Mar 2017

But then what should I expect toomey is scum

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
24. Meanwhile...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:07 PM
Mar 2017

...WikiLeaks has not found the wherewithal to locate and publish even one of Drumpf's tax returns.

By now, it's safe to assume that they're either totally owned and operated by Putin and his cabal, or ...
Fuck it: their credibility is totally vacated.
I'm also losing any hope in Anonymous: they're nothing other than a bunch of Internet wankers in Guy Fawkes masks.

I've grow weary of these posers and fart-arounds parading their puerile boasts. There's too much at stake here.

It's long past time for them to put up or shut-the-fuck up!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
25. good point, pls. make it to every f-ing R w/in hearing distance
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:17 PM
Mar 2017

Just like, "Small government, get gov out of our business," as they put their noses into women's uteruses

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
31. BINGO!!!!!!!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017

THERE'S MONEY to be made from the guys in the halls with the brown cases stuffed with cash.

Drumpf's income tax return - (as our "fine" reps would say: NAH, ain't gonna' help my wallet one bit!)

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
28. I was dying to know trumpers' response on this...nada. So visited the land o' the freep. I think
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:47 PM
Mar 2017

it's okay to put these here? If not, happy to delete (not providing link, unless requested to!)

So by and large..."do not want!":

“Republicans claim the FCC’s rules confuse customers because they only cover internet providers and not websites like Google and Facebook.”

What exactly was confusing?


3 posted on March 29, 2017 1:21:49 PM CDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Lorianne
Trump should VETO IT.


4 posted on March 29, 2017 1:24:58 PM CDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Lorianne

Imagine the blackmail coming out soon.

“Dear Reverand Smith, you records show you visited HotNakedBabes.com 5 times in 2008. Please send us 1000 bitcoins to keep this from going public!”


5 posted on March 29, 2017 1:25:19 PM CDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

The guests on the fox show talking about this made it sound like he would sign it


6 posted on March 29, 2017 1:28:07 PM CDT by Bob434
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To: MNDude

Exactly- that is what hte guests were speaking about on fox new’s ‘Happening Now’ show-

They made the case that a woman involved in a divorce could get damaging info on her husband without him knowing about it or giving permission now- or vice versa- and that hackers and identity thieves could access very personal info through the ISP’s who will now sell the info to the highest bidders-

IF this goes through- it’s gonna be bad-

IF it does go through- watch how fast the liberals all of a sudden become so concerned about privacy again- Right now they are tryign to cover up obama spying on Americans- but if this new bill goes through- you will see them all of a sudden feinting fro mthe vapors over Internet privacy violations lol


7 posted on March 29, 2017 1:32:42 PM CDT by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind

THis vote removes a regulation (that has not even gone into effect yet) that stops ISPs from selling your data while allowing websites/browsers to continue to do so...


8 posted on March 29, 2017 1:38:17 PM CDT by Voluntaryist
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump should VETO IT.
Trump MUST veto it!

9 posted on March 29, 2017 1:38:20 PM CDT by gdani
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To: Lorianne

What did the senate do? They cancelled a pending change that would have required users of ISPs to specifically opt into any collection or sale of data for marketing purposes. Presently, you can opt out of such programs.
The vote was to not change the system and push through a rule to increase the value of Google and Facebook which wouldn't have to get separate affirmative permission.

It should be noted that almost every ISP’s TOS outlines what marketing data can be collected and sold and when you approve the TOS, you approved that collection.

TLDR: They cancelled a future rule, nothing changed from before the senate action to today.

10 posted on March 29, 2017 1:41:23 PM CDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Bob434

People committed suicide over that joke of a web site “Ashley Madison”.

Imagine every web site everyone ever visited becoming available to the world.


luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
29. wow this guy who ALWAYS backs everything they do just called them 'RepubliCONS' and he's pissed
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:06 PM
Mar 2017

so freaky that nothing else they do has bothered him until now, but invading HIS privacy has pissed him off .

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
33. I think this Congress' clusterfuck will get very personal for some of them.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:33 PM
Mar 2017

Especially when it begins to affect their family members.

ck4829

(35,062 posts)
40. Fight back, spread the poison pill
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:00 AM
Mar 2017

If they want our internet history open to more people and groups, then let's make it something they don't want to see.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028870061

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