***** LIVE Blog - Russian Intelligence Activities - Senate Hearing Mar. 30 *****

[L. Coyote]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?426227-1/senate-intelligence-committee-examines-russian-interference-capabilites&live

I'm waiting for the video to begin. Anyone seeing this yet?

[bdamomma]

1. Thank you L Coyote

I think its supposed to start at 10 am but which C Span??? 1,2, or 3

[yallerdawg]

4. C-SPAN 3.

Senators are showing up now.

[L. Coyote]

11. Your C-SPAN feed is working?

[yallerdawg]

13. Yes, at the OP link.

Chair Burr and V Chair Warner is describing hearing today.

[L. Coyote]

22. I may need to update my player. I'm watching another feed.

Link to tweet

[yallerdawg]

2. 10:07 ET.

Still gathering - "Starting shortly."

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Watching on CSPAN3

[Dem_4_Life]

21. UGH I set my DVR to record CSPAN2

Couldn't skip work too many meetings on Thursdays. Hopefully they replay it tonight.

[SticksnStones]

47. I'm sure it'll be on YouTube nt

[L. Coyote]

52. The OP has a YouTube feed now.

[SticksnStones]

88. I don't know much about YouTube live feeds

I imagine they get archived for viewing later as well...?

[L. Coyote]

90. Yes, YouTube live feeds become active videos afterwards.

[SticksnStones]

101. TIL

Thx.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. They most likely will re-air tonight although

they usually offer archived broadcasts for streaming too before the OTA rebroadcast (often as soon as the hearings are done).

[spinbaby]

5. Nothing going on yet

Lots of wandering around shaking hands.

[L. Coyote]

6. Another feed here LIVE now, nothing happening yet:

Watch Live: Senate Committee Holds a Hearing on Russian Election Interference
Julia Zorthian 10:01 AM ET

The Senate Intelligence Committee will question experts on Russia and cybersecurity in back-to-back hearings on Thursday.

The open hearing takes place as the committee continues its investigation into Russian interference in last year's presidential election. Witnesses Thursday will include Russia expert Eugene Rumer of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Georgetown Government Professor Emeritus Roy Godson and Ret. General KeithAlexander

The hearings are scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. E.T. You can watch them live above.

[L. Coyote]

9. Started. My C-SPAN feed is not working, this one is. Sen. Burr opening remarks ....

http://time.com/4718240/russia-election-interference-senate-hearing-livestream/

[BumRushDaShow]

7. How convenient that Turtle called a vote at the same time as the hearing.

[woodsprite]

10. Yeah. How did they screw us this time? n/t

[woodsprite]

8. Listening at work. n/t

[kentuck]

12. I have my doubts that they can hold together for the duration...

But they must try.

[femmocrat]

14. MSNBC and CNN are showing it.

For now at least.

[L. Coyote]

19. YouTube has four live feeds, including Time.

Link to tweet

[femmocrat]

25. Thanks! Cable news coverage looks iffy right now.

MSNBC has already cut away.... because you know, what nonsense they are blathering about is more important?

[spinbaby]

15. Blah, blah, blah

Work together, get to the bottom of this...

[L. Coyote]

16. Today's public hearing is rare for the Intelligence Comm.

This is going to rattle the nation Yuuugly and Bigly.

"Putin ordered a deliberate campaign carefully constructed to alter the election." Sen. Warner

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Warner is so mad that he is having difficulty reading his statement.

[Achilleaze]

55. and the republicans submissively ASSUMED THE POSITION for russia

and let the russians piss all over America and Americans. deplorable.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Feinstein just came in.

[L. Coyote]

20. Watching the Twitter feed too.

Link to tweet

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[femmocrat]

23. Here is a list of the members:

Members, 115th Congress

Majority:
Richard Burr, North Carolina, Chairman
Jim Risch, Idaho
Marco Rubio, Florida
Susan Collins, Maine
Roy Blunt, Missouri
James Lankford, Oklahoma
Tom Cotton, Arkansas
John Cornyn, Texas

Minority:
Mark Warner, Virginia, Vice Chairman
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Martin Heinrich, New Mexico
Angus King, Maine[12]
Joe Manchin, West Virginia
Kamala Harris, California

Ex officio:
John McCain, Arizona
Mitch McConnell, Kentucky
Jack Reed, Rhode Island
Chuck Schumer, New York

(source: Wikipedia)

MSNBC has cut away already to hear themselves talk.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. CSPAN3

[femmocrat]

31. I know... but we don't get it on DirecTV.

If CNN cuts away, I'll go to an internet feed. Thanks.

[BumRushDaShow]

35. Understood

It took us awhile to even get CSPAN2 back in the '90s and the CSPAN3 that we have (Comcast) is not HD.

[bdamomma]

24. Do I have to register to watch C Span 3 to watch on my PC?

Nevermind got it on FB Thanks

[L. Coyote]

26. Should not need to. Might need to update Flash. I just added a YouTube feed to the OP.

[yallerdawg]

27. No, it's a free streaming service.

You can go straight to C-SPAN website and pick your feed!

[KingCharlemagne]

28. Red-baiting anyone? Godson yapping about the 'Soviets,' FFS. And

this yo-yo is a professor?

[hamsterjill]

57. He's NOT coming across well!

Clinton Watts is coming across very well.

[Gabi Hayes]

134. he's a FAR right wingnut loon. check this out

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/national_strategy_information_center/

look at the names in that group==a neocon wet dream lineup

here:

NSIC president Roy Godson served as a consultant to the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) during the Ronald Reagan administration, when Schmitt was PFIAB's executive director.

At the same time, Godson served as one of the main intermediaries between the private Nicaraguan contra support network and the National Security Council.[4]

During the Cold War, he was closely connected with neoconservative organizations such as the Coalition for the Democratic Majority and the League for Industrial Democracy. Godson also served as the longtime director of the International Labor program at Georgetown University, where NSIC's Consortium for the Study of Intelligence is housed.[5]

Godson’s father and brother, Joseph and Dean, served as key advocates of neoconservative ideas and organizations in the United Kingdom during the Cold War

he looks to be an ACTIVE contributor to the massive murder campaign in central america

going to look that up right now

what a DICK!

[KingCharlemagne]

30. As if the U.S. hasn't intervened in other countries' elections. Jesus H. Christ, what

hypocrisy!

For this yo-yo, it's like the Cold War never ended.

[GliderGuider]

33. What makes you think it ended?

Does previous US intervention in other countries negate the right to respond when it happens to you?

[KingCharlemagne]

34. Oh, you have a 'right' to respond when it happens to you, but not to

hypocritically tout you own virtue (as Godson is doing).

[GliderGuider]

36. Touting one's virtue is irrelevant to an inquiry.

It antagonizes people, but doesn't alter squat.

[KingCharlemagne]

42. How about just a pinch of meta-honesty: the U.S. has tried to

intervene in other countries' democratic pocesesses (Iran 1954, Chile 1973, to name just two). The U.S. supported a White Russian civil war against the USSR in the 1920s, for christ's sake.

[LanternWaste]

83. What is the specific relevance of the '54 and '73 actions be to this particular inquiry?

What is the specific relevance of the '54 and '73 actions be to this particular inquiry?

And what would be the precise goal of this admission you crave... an admission which has already been given time and time again?

[KingCharlemagne]

89. No American president has ever apologized for our efforts to depose

Mossdegh, to overthorw Allende, to assissinate Fidel Castro.

If the U.S. does it, it's never wrong. But if the Russian Federation does it? OMG, the sky is falling! Our precious bodily fluids are under threat

We have NO MORAL GROUNDS to criticize the Russian Federation for the exact same behaviors we have engaged in. Not without charges of MASSIVE MORAL HYPOCRISY.

The bi-partisan hand-wringing and pearl-clutching here is laughable. And contemptitble for anyone with even the slightest understanding of history.

[WinkyDink]

97. Pretty much what Trump said: "You think our country is so innocent?" Even a stopped clock.......

[GliderGuider]

135. But this isn't a moral question. It's a legal one.

Umbrage carries no weight on this stage.

[KingCharlemagne]

147. LOLOL. you say "legal," I say "moral". Let's call the whole

thing off.

[GliderGuider]

150. Fine by me!

[KingCharlemagne]

32. Hey, Godson, news flash: Containment worked (see Harry

S. Truman, a Democrat). What a tool this guy is.

[snooper2]

50. Our Pro-Pootie contingentis down these days...

I almost miss that idiot philoslayer

[bdamomma]

37. this Dr Godson

is very long winded isn't he?

[chelsea0011]

40. Godson, in summary...thank gawd Reagan saved the day in the 80's

[KingCharlemagne]

41. One must question the tenure policies of Georgetown U., methinks! :) - nt

[KingCharlemagne]

38. "Fairly successful in the 80s" means support for the Contras and

arms for hostages.

[L. Coyote]

39. Feinstein: getting Trump tax returns is "more important" now as Senate Intel review takes shape

Link to tweet

I'm seeing on Twitter a lot of push back against the hearings already by trump supporters.

Link to tweet

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. Which explains his recent tweeting about libel laws.

Throwing out a big piece of juicy meat there.

[KingCharlemagne]

43. Give Alaska back to the Inuits! - nt

[L. Coyote]

48. 2 cents an acre!

https://themoscowtimes.com/photogalleries/alaska-bridge-between-us-and-russia-55778

[L. Coyote]

45. Clinton Watts opening is interesting, trolls and bots, and honey pots ....

Watch out for those hurky dudes and honey pots everyone

And watch out for distraction!

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

46. Watts' testimony is fascinating.

[L. Coyote]

51. The Twitter bots being discussed are on Twitter slamming the hearing!

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[bdamomma]

53. Those Bots hate the truth

this has been very informative

[BumRushDaShow]

54. LOL

[L. Coyote]

56. "One has to have an infrastructure abroad to be able to do this ... they have this apparatus"

"Accounts dating back to 2009 ... 2015 cyber-attacks ... one year build-up to the election."

Sen. Feinstein has good questions.

[L. Coyote]

58. Rubio up now, change of focus on Germany and fake rape story, fake military news

Now toxic fumes in LA, powerful explosion, ... photos posted on Twitter of explosions, ISIS hoax.

"Isn't this the larger problem?" Rubio. Anything but the election.

[KingCharlemagne]

59. Lil Marco: Banning snowmen as racist. Someone on RT or the Kremlin

has a hilarious sense of humor!

[woodsprite]

60. I don't care for Rubio, but I liked the way he worded it "Blitzkrieg" of disinformation.

Of course, Trump & Co are just as guilty.

[Pacifist Patriot]

61. I despise him, but like the way he broadened the impact of their activities...

and pointed out numerous examples and their impact. I too thought that was an effective way to phrase it.

[L. Coyote]

62. Some of the "blitzkrieg of disinformation" he described came from Trumpsters online.

Sounded like he was describing Republican trolls.

[woodsprite]

64. I was thinking the same thing. Took an accurate shot and got himself in the process. n/t

[blogslut]

63. Another source: CSPAN RADIO APP

for either iOS or Android:

https://www.c-span.org/RadioApp/

[TalenaGor]

65. bots....does this mean there aren't any actual trump supporters?

Lol

I've been arguing with bots on Yahoo 😱

[woodsprite]

67. It may be a lot less than it appears, but unfortunately, I'm related to a few. n/t

[L. Coyote]

66. The "Potemkin Village" phenomena was deployed by the Trump campaign in Reno.

They covered up Trump causing a protestor to get beaten on the floor.

[retrowire]

68. It's going to be a farce why watch it? Nt

[KingCharlemagne]

73. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signiying NOTHING! - nt

[retrowire]

75. :(

I can't tell if this is about me or the trial sorry.

[KingCharlemagne]

79. It's about the hearing, not you. What a joke! - nt

[bdamomma]

69. K&R

[KingCharlemagne]

70. Collins: Throwing Occupy Wall Street under the bus. First time I knew

I was an unwitting Russian agent (at Occupy Los Angeles). I'm still waiting for my paycheck from Putin.

How scummy can Collins get? 1% of this country's population controls 40% of its wealth, FFS.

[L. Coyote]

71. Has anyone tweeted this thread? Who does political tweeting here?

Link to tweet

[yallerdawg]

72. Isn't it amazing how we are investigating this information cyber war...

while the Republicans support internet providers selling our browsing histories and physical locations to "interested parties?"

Is there "a method to this madness?" Sure looks like it!

[SHRED]

85. While they voted to keep tRump's tax returns sealed

[yallerdawg]

93. And we have the nutjob in the White House...

'tweeting' The Truth and referencing and linking to his State-sanctioned media sites.

Let's hope their hubris and contempt for the American people is their downfall.

The majority of us aren't that damn stupid!

[BumRushDaShow]

74. Wyden - follow the money

Tax returns!

[KingCharlemagne]

76. +Infinity - nt

[bdamomma]

77. Follow the Money!!!!!

exactly

[L. Coyote]

78. Finally, my Senator Ron Wyden "follow the money" between Trump and Russia, Trump taxes

look into foreign corrupt practices, "suspicious financial transcations" by Trump ... money laundering ... may lead to Russia.

"The committee needs to follow the money to whereever it leads" "extraordinary history of money laundering in Russia"

"tell us about corruption in Russia to help us follow the money"

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Follow trail of dead Russians - Watts

[bdamomma]

81. 10 dead Russians

exactly!!!!!

I hope that they keep on having open sessions, I am so overly cautious that Rump will try to pull the plug on this committee, someone please reassure me.

[Pacifist Patriot]

82. Whoa! Watts brought up dead Russians. "huge angle"

[L. Coyote]

84. "Follow the trail of dead Russians"

"That's a huge angle ...."

"How do they conduct this influence ... the Balkans are littered with this kind of influence ..."

[woodsprite]

86. OMG! I love Watts and his attitude! n/t

[KingCharlemagne]

87. Historical Note: The wealth that fueled the 'corruption' of the Russian

oligarchs came from selling off (aka "Privatizing&quot assets that had previously belonged in common the people of the USSR.

Funny how no one mentions that little factoid.

[L. Coyote]

91. What Republicans and the oligarchs in the USA want to do with our assets too.

The even appear to be trying to break up the USA to make off with the public land and all the minerals.

[KingCharlemagne]

94. Capitalists gonna do what capitalists do. But rest assured, the capitalists will

"sell us the rope with which to hang them." ~Lenin

[WinkyDink]

95. Of course, it did! AKA: Grand Larceny. AKA: Mafia SOP: Take-over a legit operation and loot it.

[WinkyDink]

92. Paul Ryan's Press Conference RIGHT NOW isn't TOO obvious an attempt at distraction! :-P

[flamingdem]

96. Senator Heinrich closing in on financial involvement by Russians

Get those tax returns!

[BumRushDaShow]

98. Love Clinton Watts

Precise, concise, amazing!

[woodsprite]

100. Not to mention, he's got a good strong name ;) n/t

[WinkyDink]

102. :-)

[BumRushDaShow]

104. Everytime I look at him I think

[WinkyDink]

111. I love JG!

[BumRushDaShow]

115. Me too

[Pacifist Patriot]

118. He is by far the easiest of the three to follow.

Godson's rambling is starting to grate on me.

[WinkyDink]

99. This Watts is GOING THERE! WOOT! Connecting "the Commander in Chief...."

[bdamomma]

107. Mr Watts is very good

so nice to hear FACTS huh?

[L. Coyote]

103. The very trolls being discussed are tweeting that the hearing is bullshit.

Check the tweet counts of the trolls.

Link to tweet

[WinkyDink]

106. And the reason NOT to hate corrupt, war-mongering Russia would be...?

[BumRushDaShow]

109. Watts pretty much said that was going to happen

and that as soon as he was done the hearing, they were going to go after him and he would be "on his own".

[WinkyDink]

112. Putin has shown he doesn't play.

[L. Coyote]

116. He's well aware of psychological warfare against persons, seemed to hint he's already under attack.

Most Americans are unaware of this kind of covert actions.

[get the red out]

121. I was until recent events

I have had to work to even get up to speed enough to know what has been being discussed! WOW. Ignorance is not bliss.

[woodsprite]

105. Listening to Watts, I think I've died and gone to heaven!

Oh, and the verbiage "a little teeny pin prick" -- I know he meant that to be the break that Russia (or other entity) made into the US media, but I couldn't help thinking of the "teeny pin prick" Russia installed in the White House.

[bdamomma]

110. or a teeny prick installed in WH

[Girard442]

114. Reminds me of Iron Man II.

When Gary Shandling pins a medal on Robert Downey Jr. and after Downey flinches after being intentionally stuck Shandling whispers in his ear, "Funny how annoying a little prick can be, isn't it?"

[tallahasseedem]

132. He is AMAZING!

His comments about Trump doing the Russian's job was spot on.

[L. Coyote]

108. Clinton Watts is awesome. He knows he is going to be attacked but he speaks the truth.

[nikibatts]

141. Yes he is. Brilliant!

[BumRushDaShow]

113. Roy Godson is Phineas J. Whoopee

[bdamomma]

117. Watts:

"we are weak"



That is so true now.

[L. Coyote]

119. "We are engaged in a new kind of aggression if not war" Sen. King

"They pushed and probed into our state elections system..."

What will the effect of this hearing be for the European elections?

Russians hacked 3-4,000 people.

[BumRushDaShow]

120. LOL @ Angus King's mention of his wife

and the fake Lincoln quote meme on their refrigerator.

[L. Coyote]

124. That was so cool.

This troll has amassed 656,000 tweets! That's more than Susan B. Anthony and Abe Lincoln combined.

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

127. Yikes

[bdamomma]

146. They just hate truth and facts

don't they? I am so glad I don't have twitter my mental health would be in jeopardy!!

[BumRushDaShow]

149. Well if they are bots

then they are programmed to disrupt.

And no FB or twitter here either!

[Gabi Hayes]

126. I heard one of the 'experts' proclaim that there was NO russian interference at

the ballot box.

funny.....last night Angus King on cable said there is at least SOME concern that this DID happen, but they don't have solid proof at this point. wonder where he got that, and why he didn't bring it up when it was poo pooed today.

I posted to that effect last night--about the tampering. I saw that segment twice.

[BumRushDaShow]

129. I think the statement that Watts made afterwards

may have planted the seeds for us to better check those ballot boxes. He basically laid out the scenario of Putin's goal - when you lack faith in the integrity of the elections and the ballot, then you say why bother to vote? When you lack faith in the integrity of the court system, then why bother to be a juror?

So hopefully there will be a lot of behind the scenes to work on the problem of tampering, etc.

[Gabi Hayes]

142. I don't think it was Watts...maybe that right wing lunatic godson.

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some pals he's got

https://www.google.com/search?q=prof.+godson%27&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=roy+godson+National+Strategy+Information+Center&*

that's just the tip of the iceberg

bagman for ollie north, as linked above, too

[BumRushDaShow]

144. Watts didn't say it but I think it was the other guy - Rumer

And I think he may have said it in response to Cornyn. I was ready to throw something at the TV while Cornyn was on.

[BumRushDaShow]

122. Kamala up.

[SticksnStones]

123. How soon before 45 tweets: see, I said it's all fake news!

Vindicated once again!

[L. Coyote]

128. The real question, Will he plagiarize Putin?

Link to tweet

[SticksnStones]

131. Plagiarize...confer with....tomato tomahto. nt

[L. Coyote]

133. We lack an inference emoticon.

But you had no problem getting the point anyway.

[BumRushDaShow]

125. Cyber may be the new frontier of war - Kamala Harris

Russia has 1/10th of our military budget and is investing in cyber warriors and fake news.

[Blue_Adept]

130. Of course it is

Science fiction writers and shows have been covering this topic for decades. All the warnings were there.

But it's all just written off as childish fantasy.

[BumRushDaShow]

137. "A Taste of Armageddon"

[L. Coyote]

136. One of many holy shit moments during today's Senate Intel Committee hearing

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[bdamomma]

138. Excellent hearing

first and foremost Educate the American people.......sigh

Does this hearing continue????

[blogslut]

143. Yes @ approximately 2PM EST

Hearing Type: Open
Date & Time: Thursday, March 30, 2017 - 2:00pm
Location: Dirksen 106

Witnesses:

Kevin Mandia
Chief Executive Officer FireEye

General (Ret.) Keith Alexander
Chief Executive Officer and President IronNet Cybersecurity

Thomas Rid Professor Department of War Studies King's College London

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/hearings/open-hearing-intelligence-matters-1

[BumRushDaShow]

139. Pt. 2 starts at 2 pm ET. Re-airs @ 8 pm on CSPAN.

Re-airing now as well on CSPAN3.

[Gabi Hayes]

140. Roy Godson, monster?

I'd like to know who called this asshole to testify

he crawls out of the bowels of the far right neo con loon swamp

check this out STRAIGHT from the Iran Contra report. why he didn't get prosecuted is a good question:

On two occasions, Roy Godson of the Heritage Foundation helped solicit funds from private donors.14 In the fall of 1985, Godson, at North's direction, informed Miller that an anonymous donor wanted to make a large contribution to the Catholic church in Nicaragua. Based on a plan agreed to by Godson and Miller, the donor contributed $100,000 to the Heritage Foundation, which then forwarded the money to a Miller-Gomez entity known as the Institute for North-South Issues (INSI). Miller and Gomez took a $20,000 commission and forwarded $80,000 to their I.C. Inc. account in the Cayman Islands.

https://fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_13.htm

this monster, yes monster, was deep into the iran contra treachery, and here he is today, spewing transparent garbage, aligning with his crazed world view

[BumRushDaShow]

145. Probably to add "balance"

to their bad situation.

He knew how to blind people with bullshit to the point where even Burr had to cut him off at his opening statement!

[KingCharlemagne]

148. I blame Georgetown. - nt

[coco22]

151. Kick..

[BumRushDaShow]

152. Channel switch for pt2 to CSPAN1

[bdamomma]

153. watching now should we start another thread?

[BumRushDaShow]

154. Just did!