Do you think Mike Flynn will inculpate Donald Trump

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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[wiggs]

1. Although he was quoted as saying that it's not fair that he take the fall for this, I

would guess that a military man is not going to rat out the commander in chief. He would be a pariah among his peers. Even more than he is now. No more Fox gigs.

[grantcart]

2. He already is apriah among his military peers. They laughed him out of the military.

[Sculpin Beauregard]

4. Exactly

[politicat]

8. It's useful to remember that he's not well liked, and is subject to UCMJ until he dies.

He was a general; the UCMJ doesn't go away just because one retires. As long as he's drawing his pension, that's the agreement. And he's not well liked, which means it's not all that hard to see a Courts Martial being convened on his ass, especially if someone sees what he did as treason. And the Courts Martial are really independent.

Also, the UCMJ has loooong statutes of limitation.

[mopinko]

22. oh please oh please.

nothing i love better than a political assassin w his ass hanging in the breeze in a serious way.

[GP6971]

29. Very true. Retired Generals and Admirals

are subject to recall for the rest of their life so the UCMJ would apply.

We can only hope that if all else fails, that the military puts him up against a General Court Martial

[Thomas Hurt]

5. When Scooter Libby took one for the GOP

the conservatives gave him standing ovations for lying to the FBI....

[grantcart]

3. To me the question isn't "will he?" but how long will it take.

I go for a New York Minute

[edhopper]

6. No

he will give up Manfort or someone else no longer in the administration.

[tableturner]

12. The FBI and prosecutors have to accept a written proffer for Flynn to be granted immunity.

If he only offers testimony on Manafort and others below the president, I would bet that such a proffer would not be accepted. Let's remember that the FBI has him by the short hairs, and he knows it: as those who have been closely following the case know, they can probably convict him of serious crimes already, and the investigation is not nearly finished.

In actuality, Flynn has no bargaining power. If he does not make an acceptable proffer, they can put him in prison for a very long time. The bottom line is that Flynn and every other guilty party who thinks he or she will be nailed by the FBI would get down on their knees if they thought that would get them immunity for their testimony. Only a very few will be successful in achieving that.

Last, if his testimony in court were to differ from what was proffered, the immunity would be withdrawn, so even THAT way for Trump to wiggle out of trouble would be blocked.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. They would give him immunity if he inculpates Trump.

[denverbill]

17. +1.

[edhopper]

18. I don't have confidence

that the FBI or any other agency or branch will actually go after Trump.
They are all in the bag.

[briv1016]

7. He's not going to get a chance.

If he lives till next weekend I'd be very surprised.

[monmouth4]

9. I had the same thought..nt

[denverbill]

10. Never. He'll go Ollie North.

The one thing that conservatives value above any other is loyalty to their leader. Be Ollie North and take one for the team and you'll always have a job.

[Squinch]

11. This.

[tableturner]

13. See what I wrote above at the following link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028873845#post12

[politicat]

31. Not this time. They were all cut from the JV teams. Has-beens, wannabes and grifters.

What drives the successful, long-term GOP office-squatters is stability. They keep their staff for years and when a kid needs a job, they start them in the mail room. The GOP loyalty that held true with past admins relied on cultivating long-standing, mutually beneficial relationships -- some earmarks for a district in exchange for a meet and greet or fundraiser on the elected side, keeping staff employed on the staff side -- over years or decades. But earmarks have been gone for a long time, staff jobs have become fungible thanks to the free market evangelism, and a lot of the big GOP money is indifferent at best towards l'enfant terrible, when they're not actively hostile.

The Tantrump made his team out of the rejects, because everyone else knows that pack of thieves, scoundrels and grifters are as reliable as a scorpion in need of a trip across the river.

Also, most of that big GOP money isn't young, so they grew up as Cold Warriors, and just because Putin doesn't have a hammer and sickle anymore doesn't mean they think he's any different. Those old Cold War suspicions aren't gone, and they're not even that deeply buried.

Plus, the big money (on all sides) will be super pissed if the shitty condo and teevee asswipe blows the cover off the off-shoring dodge. Even legitimately made serious money sometimes hears the call of a tropical island vacation, and sometimes for reasons that actually make sense (such as leaving an inheritance to a child or grandchild who doesn't want publicity, or has a stalker, or an abusive ex -- off-shoring can be used to maintain privacy). The press is already poking at the very grey line between legitimate off-shoring and money-laundering, and if it's this easy, they'll start looking elsewhere, eventually.

[workinclasszero]

14. He will drop a dime on the Russian spy-in-charge

[ecstatic]

16. There's no telling. He's a lying, traitorous snake, willing to sell out his own country

So in that sense, why should he think twice about flipping on Trump? On the other hand, he rolls with criminals and they probably have a convenient fall guy (handpicked by Putin) in place.

[delisen]

19. Is his son still tweeting?

[Generic Brad]

20. This is a trap

He gets immunity. Takes full blame for everything. Trump, Pence and Bannon are declared heroes for firing him. Then Flynn waits for the Russian mob to give him his promised pay out.

This is too public of an announcement. We are being played again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. They won't give him immunity unless he inculpates others.

He has to give a proffer prior to be given immunity.

[H2O Man]

21. Yes.

Recommended.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. People think Flynn likes Trump.

He liked Trump before he fired him and had his aides trash him as he left.

After all this guy was a general. He wasn't some nobody.

[H2O Man]

25. Right.

Trump et al have turned on Flynn. It's become an "open secret" that they were planning to place blame on him for any new information that comes out.

More, Flynn is intent upon saving himself.

[nikibatts]

23. I don't trust the bastard. They have enough on him to not give him immunity. Let the rest play out

[Ilsa]

26. I wonder if Flynn's son is at risk for prosecution if

Flynn doesn’t incriminate 45.

[L. Coyote]

27. You left out the past tense option.

Probably already has or Comey would not have talked so openly.

[VOX]

30. Who's to say that Trump's attorneys aren't choreographing Flynn?

I just don't trust any of these wretches. I wouldn't put anything past them. I desperately hope they all go down in flames. But there's that word: hope. Bitter experience informs my cautious side to not hang too much on hope.

[peacebuzzard]

32. Sing like a bird on little twitter

Exercise those lips!
I need to have some hope.
Wishes for the whole lot of them to get implicated as well.

[Kimchijeon]

33. he doesn't have the courage