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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:25 PM Mar 2017

Like all other wingers, Pence's dining abstinence rule is all about his own dick...

He's clearly concerned about contracting Winger Wandering PeePee Syndrome, especially while helping to destroy America in that Loose Jezebel infested Sodom and Gomorrah known as Washington D.C.

Pence's outrageously sexist discrimination against the opposite gender is problematic on two separate conditions:

One: As an elected public official, he's most likely breaking Federal statutes against gender discrimination.

But Two: As an ostensibly straight male, his guideline is singularly based on his own attraction to women.

Think about this for a moment. What kind of mindset are we dealing with here? For one, he would have a lot in common with men who force women to wear burkas, men who blame women for being raped because of what they're wearing and pretty much most of the male characters in "A Handmaid's Tale."

If Pence were hypothetically gay (go ahead and laugh) and said that he wouldn't dine alone with other men, that behavior would still based on his own ideas about who he's sexually attracted to. Either way, none of it would be in consideration of the other person.

Let's also consider that, either way, he's not even regarding the likelihood that those singular men or women diners wouldn't be sexually attracted to his regression enhanced replicant ass. It's all about him.

Pence just basically outed his own sick mindset with this bullshit. As if we didn't know that about him before.

He's one scary motherfucker... Gawd help us is he replaces Cheetolini.

FDT&MP.

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Like all other wingers, Pence's dining abstinence rule is all about his own dick... (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2017 OP
On a positive note, this is good news for every woman but his wife who is apparently Vinca Mar 2017 #1
It's not, because he'd be unable to ever hire a woman or work with one as a peer due to HIS issues.. bettyellen Mar 2017 #9
It's also about his alcohol problem. pnwmom Mar 2017 #2
I bet he has grabbed many butt cheeks at parties when he was drinking. SummerSnow Mar 2017 #5
Why because he can't control himself? Volaris Mar 2017 #21
He won't go anywhere that alcohol is served Mariana Mar 2017 #30
My bet Egnever Mar 2017 #37
I don't know about that. Maybe he knows how hard it would be for the ladies to resist this: Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2017 #3
Leave Race Bannon alone! dchill Mar 2017 #33
He won't drink alcohol unless his wife is there, which speaks to other directions synergie Mar 2017 #4
He wants us to trust him when he clearly doesn't trust himself! n/t Binkie The Clown Mar 2017 #6
What... sheshe2 Mar 2017 #7
This is what happens when religious people tell teens they need to marry the first person they screw Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #8
The question that bugs me gratuitous Mar 2017 #10
That is the question. dmr Mar 2017 #20
well sex and money. rurallib Mar 2017 #22
I doubt she's ever been been in a kitchen Bettie Apr 2017 #46
He wants everyone else to follow suit. treestar Apr 2017 #51
So he's admitting that unless his wife is with him, he's incapable of keeping himself out of trouble VOX Mar 2017 #11
This is the least of Pence's issues crazycatlady Mar 2017 #12
everything does seem to revolve around "it" for repug men. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #13
Eh, why doesn't he just get himself chemically castrated? DinahMoeHum Mar 2017 #14
Hell, why doesn't he get himself SURGICALLY castrated? meow2u3 Mar 2017 #36
Touche! DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #44
It's a weakness that can be exploited, as you are, by calling him out and chipping away at him. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #15
You see, Mandrake, klook Mar 2017 #16
He's a fucking weirdo. ellie Mar 2017 #17
Yep! I've been thinking that the whole time I've been reading these responses! IndianaDave Apr 2017 #55
A President with a Daughter/Wife and a VP with a "Mother"/Wife stuffmatters Mar 2017 #18
Freak lunasun Mar 2017 #19
It could be an imaginary problem. Turbineguy Mar 2017 #23
I don't understand. What's Pence doing? WinkyDink Mar 2017 #24
Covering his ass is what he's doing. EL34x4 Apr 2017 #45
Ah! Well, if that's his thinking, okay. (Why can't these people eat at home in their marble and WinkyDink Apr 2017 #56
America needs a Religious theocracy IronLionZion Mar 2017 #25
The embarrassment of being in the same species with these assholes. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #26
Pence makes my skin crawl. nt SunSeeker Mar 2017 #27
Yes, like any woman he gets close to is attracted to him and wants to lead him astray brush Mar 2017 #28
That's okay; I wouldn't want to dine with him either NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #29
I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with christx30 Apr 2017 #61
Really? NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #63
It's their mental modus operandi... Hulk Mar 2017 #31
he looks like he wants to cry sitting next to Pelosi SummerSnow Mar 2017 #32
Has Drumpf's shitty taste in food. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #40
Can't imagine how much it bugs him that treestar Apr 2017 #52
As a woman, I'm insulted he thinks any woman is attracted to him. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #34
I suspect he's got more than a few "Slick Willie"-esque skeletons in his closet... regnaD kciN Mar 2017 #35
Exactly, it is a way to blame women for the fact that he can't control himself. n/t FSogol Mar 2017 #38
I unfortunately agree with Pence on this :( Wiseman32218 Mar 2017 #39
So you think all women are out to sue Pence? leftstreet Mar 2017 #41
Is his wife subjected to the same policy? kskiska Mar 2017 #42
so....when she dies, he'll starve to death? SoCalDem Apr 2017 #43
He thinks he's so hot... End Of The Road Apr 2017 #47
I have a coworker like this but sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #48
He's too worried about what others think treestar Apr 2017 #50
No. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #54
The law has a problem with that, in the workplace. If he wants to follow that rule spooky3 Apr 2017 #57
This is specifically talking about eating lunch with women alone. sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #58
You are incorrect. Almost anything that is connected to the spooky3 Apr 2017 #59
No I am not incorrect... sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #60
Yes if he was just working with them treestar Apr 2017 #49
The real question is... greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #53
Mature, normal adults can have dinner with each other without needing a chaperone. alarimer Apr 2017 #62

Vinca

(50,411 posts)
1. On a positive note, this is good news for every woman but his wife who is apparently
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:39 PM
Mar 2017

forced to dine alone with him. Old Pence needs to locate a time machine because he's definitely not from this century.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. It's not, because he'd be unable to ever hire a woman or work with one as a peer due to HIS issues..
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:57 PM
Mar 2017

Somehow women are the ones whose lives suffer W because of shot like this. Ugh.

pnwmom

(109,070 posts)
2. It's also about his alcohol problem.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:41 PM
Mar 2017

He says he won't dine with women in places where alcohol is served.

Mariana

(14,870 posts)
30. He won't go anywhere that alcohol is served
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

without his wife present, apparently. I think the dining alone with women thing and the alcohol thing are separate issues. What they have in common is that his wife gets to babysit him in both instances. He's made it her responsibility to make sure he doesn't lose control, with women and with alcohol. I wonder what other temptations she has to protect him from.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
37. My bet
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:07 PM
Mar 2017

He had infidelity problems before when drunk. This is the deal his wife made with him for her to stay with him.


I just can't wrap my head around it any other way.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
4. He won't drink alcohol unless his wife is there, which speaks to other directions
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:46 PM
Mar 2017

his dick might be wandering. The worst homophobes usually have inclinations they can't handle.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. The question that bugs me
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:59 PM
Mar 2017

Why even say anything about this in public? I've been aware of Billy Graham's personal rule for years about not being alone with any woman not his wife. Say what you will about it, Graham never had a Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker problem. It precludes any gossip and considerably reduces the chances of a false accusation or blackmail. But that's the life for a charismatic and handsome preacher.

But for a politician to adopt the rule and talk about it in public? What's the point? It invites scrutiny, begs for ridicule, and gives the appearance of smug sanctimony. If Pence is ever caught in a compromising position, it will increase his embarrassment exponentially. Just conduct yourself in accordance with your own personal rule, and the chances are really good that nobody would even notice.

dmr

(28,433 posts)
20. That is the question.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:52 PM
Mar 2017

Why? Who cares? Everything seems to boil down to sex with these people.

What's the point of broadcasting any of this? It's not anyone's business.

If late one night, in the White House, Ivanka says, "Hey, Mike, let's go down to the kitchen and make a ham sandwich", all he has to say is "no, thanks".

He need not say any more. His current explanation is pretty repulsive.

(besides, can Ivanka even make a ham sandwich?)

Bettie

(16,270 posts)
46. I doubt she's ever been been in a kitchen
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 08:48 AM
Apr 2017

seriously, I doubt any of these people even dress themselves.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
51. He wants everyone else to follow suit.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:39 AM
Apr 2017

Thinking he is now a "leader" and others will do as he does. That helps put women back in their place.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. So he's admitting that unless his wife is with him, he's incapable of keeping himself out of trouble
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:01 PM
Mar 2017

What a fuckwad. Can't stand that overly cared-for face and hair.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
12. This is the least of Pence's issues
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mar 2017

I'm playing armchair psychologist, but he strikes me as Rick Santorum 2.0. He tries so much to show how macho and straight he is but he's really got something to hide. He's homophobic to prove he's not gay.

The other person he sort of reminds me of is sexual predator Josh Duggar, who had a very strict upbringing and even stricter rules regarding the 'courtship of his wife' (the TV show was a guilty pleasure, forgive me). While dating, they were only allowed to 'side hug' and never were allowed in the same room alone. When he put a ring on it, they were allowed to hold hands. Their first kiss was at the altar. Years later, it's clear he doesn't love her (finds some on the side via Ashley Madison) but she's spineless and stands by her man. Knocks her up to prove a point.

DinahMoeHum

(21,938 posts)
14. Eh, why doesn't he just get himself chemically castrated?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:25 PM
Mar 2017

. . .solve the problem right then and there. . .

meow2u3

(24,829 posts)
36. Hell, why doesn't he get himself SURGICALLY castrated?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:04 PM
Mar 2017

That's how we deal with our pets because they're incapable of self-control.

If he wants to act like an animal, why not treat him like an animal? No self-control? No nads for you!

IndianaDave

(615 posts)
55. Yep! I've been thinking that the whole time I've been reading these responses!
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 10:11 AM
Apr 2017

And for him to bring it up publicly tells me that he thinks it's a sign of being virtuous. But I think he's a really odd, socially underdeveloped person. Or, even better, what you said!

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
18. A President with a Daughter/Wife and a VP with a "Mother"/Wife
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:45 PM
Mar 2017

To protect them both from all the "Sluts" lurking around every corner....

This is one really perverse pair.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
45. Covering his ass is what he's doing.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 08:07 AM
Apr 2017

In the Machiavellian world of Washington DC where his every move is watched by people who want to buy him, blackmail him, defeat him and destroy him, he doesn't want to have to explain cover photos on the National Enquirer of himself dining out with women who aren't his wife.

I'm sure there's many politicians in DC who adhere to this same policy (and many more who wish they had).

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
56. Ah! Well, if that's his thinking, okay. (Why can't these people eat at home in their marble and
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:36 PM
Apr 2017

stainless steel kitchens?)

IronLionZion

(45,915 posts)
25. America needs a Religious theocracy
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:38 PM
Mar 2017

the Vanilla ISIS or Ya'll Qaeda will probably piss off enough of the low tax and pro-war factions of the GOP and split them apart.

Pence is doing something behind the shadows of Orange Shitler who makes headlines. It would be best to get rid of both of them at the same time and deal with Paul Ryan until we can win election again.

brush

(54,661 posts)
28. Yes, like any woman he gets close to is attracted to him and wants to lead him astray
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:55 PM
Mar 2017

No, Pence, your stick-up-the-ass-prudery is such a huge turn off it's LOL funny.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
29. That's okay; I wouldn't want to dine with him either
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:03 PM
Mar 2017

However.

There are professional issues here. Yes, Michael Pence, there ARE professional women. Bottom line, if you have a business lunch and women are involved in whatever the lunch is about, you HAVE to have them at the table.

Gawd, I hate religious wackos.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
61. I'm sure he doesn't have a problem with
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 06:36 PM
Apr 2017

dining with women professionally at all. He just doesn't want to dine alone. So if Sharon wants to have a business dinner, Mike, Joe, Steven, Sarah, and Jennifer have to join them. I see no problem with a business meeting with everyone in the office.
Tabloids can be vicious when it comes to "I saw so-and-so out to dinner with a certain intern." Watch TMZ some time if you want to feel like you lost a piece of your soul. That kind of tabloid BS is something no one needs.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
63. Really?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 01:15 PM
Apr 2017

You're "sure" Pence doesn't have a problem dining with professional women? Did he tell you that? Because usually, religious nuts don't do exceptions; sin is sin, and apparently for Pence it's a sin (or an "occasion of sin" whatever the hell that means) to dine with a woman or women without his wife present. So unless Karen Pence goes to every business lunch he attends, he can't have women there.

He's a hide-bound, hypocritical, rigid so-called "Christian."

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
31. It's their mental modus operandi...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:13 PM
Mar 2017

....if it doesn't affect ME personally....fook'm.

My US rep, herrera-beutler is cut from the same cloth. Because she cashed in on Obama-care for her infant that was born with complications...she's ALL for ACA...as it pertains to her. However, she'll vote AGAINST IT FOR YOU!!

Fook'n idiots! Selfish, self-centered hypocrites.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
32. he looks like he wants to cry sitting next to Pelosi
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:15 PM
Mar 2017



" Oh lord forgive me"





Oh, oh. He's dining with a woman!!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. Can't imagine how much it bugs him that
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:40 AM
Apr 2017

Pelosi is in the position she is in. Worse than a black president, no doubt.

regnaD kciN

(26,068 posts)
35. I suspect he's got more than a few "Slick Willie"-esque skeletons in his closet...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:50 PM
Mar 2017

...and wifey knows it -- hence the rule.

Wiseman32218

(291 posts)
39. I unfortunately agree with Pence on this :(
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:21 PM
Mar 2017

When I was homeless and was living at the Salvation Army they had a policy that there had to be a witness whenever an employee would transport a person in need to prevent a lawsuit and as a witness to that effect. It made sense to me and still does. I was on several rides with the driver to provide that as a way to keep my eligibility for receiving assistance, it was the least I could do or live out in the cold.

leftstreet

(36,128 posts)
41. So you think all women are out to sue Pence?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:44 PM
Mar 2017

I understand the Salvation Army situation you described, but you're talking about vulnerable populations.

Pence isn't likely to be dining with people at risk, so the comparison doesn't make sense to me

End Of The Road

(1,397 posts)
47. He thinks he's so hot...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 08:57 AM
Apr 2017

that a woman might ravish him
(his wife knows he's not all that, hence he's safe dining with her)

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
48. I have a coworker like this but
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:15 AM
Apr 2017

He explained it that he doesn't want others to see him out taking a female to lunch that may be visiting our location and assume he is cheating on his wife because he doesn't want his wife embarrassed like that. He said it hit him when he was in the middle of just such a meal that it looked bad if anyone he knew saw him laughing and talking with a nice looking lady alone. From then on, he said to find another person to entertain the bigwigs if it happened to be a woman alone. I don't have a problem with that because his priority is respecting his wife. If this is all people have to gripe about Pence for, I'm disappointed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
50. He's too worried about what others think
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:37 AM
Apr 2017

and others who are so narrow minded they can't imagine a male and female co-worker or even a platonic relationship. By that standard, he can't go to lunch with his sister alone, since people who see them and don't know them will assume an affair. And it appears that if the lady is not "nice looking" he can go?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
54. No.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:42 AM
Apr 2017

It just happened he had this epiphany while sitting across the table from a nice looking woman. No females alone at all since.
I don't have a problem with it. He sees it as causing potential embarrassment to his wife and doesn't want that.

spooky3

(34,720 posts)
57. The law has a problem with that, in the workplace. If he wants to follow that rule
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:59 PM
Apr 2017

on his personal time, that's his business. But he cannot treat women, or a subgroup of them, differently from other people at work on the basis of their being female.

Put yourself in her position, particularly if most men in positions with whom you need to interact to exchange business info, build relationships, etc., were to follow the same rule. You are disadvantaged at work and clearly viewed exclusively through the lens of your gender in this scenario. And from an etiquette standpoint, what signal is he sending to women with whom he WILL have lunch, etc.? That they are unattractive, too old, etc.? Not good behavior.

The solution is to expect oneself to maintain standards of professional, respectful behavior at all times in any work-related setting, with members of all groups. and to ensure these standards are met.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
58. This is specifically talking about eating lunch with women alone.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 02:05 PM
Apr 2017

Not work, lunch as the babysitter for visiting higher ups in the company. Tradition dictates someone takes them to a local place for lunch. It is no longer him after he decided it looks bad. Nothing illegal about it. I applaud him for considering how his wife might feel if her friends saw him and assumed the worst.

spooky3

(34,720 posts)
59. You are incorrect. Almost anything that is connected to the
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 02:49 PM
Apr 2017

Workplace is covered, whether it is sitting in a meeting at the conference room or babysitting higher ups, clients, etc at an exclusive restaurant. In some cases employers are even responsible for how customers treat their employees.

The rights of female workers trump a male worker's discomfort. It's the same principle as if I had difficulty with eating at the same table with someone of a different race so my employer had to reassign someone else to host. Not allowable.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
60. No I am not incorrect...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 03:07 PM
Apr 2017

It is not a "working lunch" so is unrelated to the job. It is only tradition, not required. They can get a plate in the company cafeteria like everyone else. Taking a woman out alone is not in his job requirements. Entertainment during non-working hours which includes lunch is not required at all.

This is one of those positions in which the pc police makes us look bad. If you really wanted to push it, I'm sure a man could say he was being sexually discriminated against by being forced to take a female out.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
49. Yes if he was just working with them
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 09:35 AM
Apr 2017

where he'd go dine with a male colleague, it is seeing her as sexual rather than as her job description. In short, it's 19th century thinking.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
62. Mature, normal adults can have dinner with each other without needing a chaperone.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 07:37 PM
Apr 2017

I maintain that this attitude is simply a reflection of his belief that sexual temptation is ALWAYS the woman's fault. This is not just an attitude in fundamentalists. It is seemingly baked into our culture. And some people do not respect boundaries. Those people suck, in my opinion. And should be avoided, called out, etc.

I think grown-ass people in modern, egalitarian relationships should be able to trust each other. If you can't (and if there's no reason not to trust them), you might be too insecure. So maybe a therapist is in order? Or, if they truly cannot be trusted, then a new partner is in order.


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