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louis c

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Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:59 PM Apr 2017

All Politicians Lie, but They Don't All Bullshit

Last edited Sat Apr 1, 2017, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

Here's my take on the difference between Lies and Bullshit. All bullshit are lies, but not all lies are bullshit. Bullshit, as I define the term, is a fabricated story used to enhance your own standing or diminish the standing of a rival or opponent. A lie, on the other hand, is a protective measure because the truth could get you into trouble. An exaggeration is somewhere in the middle. Again, this is my opinion, and I'll give some examples.

I'm driving down the street going 75 miles an hour in a 55 mile an hour zone. I know it. A police officer pulls me over and asks me, "do you know why I pulled you over?" My reply is "no". Lie 1. "I pulled you over because you were speeding. Do you know how fast you were going?" I reply, "no". Lie 2. "You were going 75 miles an hour". I reply, "gee officer. I didn't think I was going that fast. I'm sorry." Lie 3. You get it. I lied. But to protect myself.

Let's say I'm having an affair with a woman. My girlfriend sees me with this other woman. I claim "she's just a friend". That's a lie.

Example: Bill Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman." You get my point. It's not just that all politicians lie, we all lie (unless we lie about lying). But we don't all bullshit.

We have all known a bull shitter. "Ya, I went out with Madonna 20 years ago, but I broke up with her". "I played for the Red Sox". "I could have gone to Harvard, but I turned them down". or "I saw your husband with another woman" (an untruth to make trouble for a woman you don't like).

That's Trump. He's worse than a liar. He's a Bull Shitter "I saw Muslims celebrating from my window on 9/11". "3 to 5 Million illegal votes cost me the popular vote." "Raphael Cruz was involved in the JFK assassination". "Obama wasn't born in America".

These are not merely lies. These are beyond the pale. This is unadulterated Bull Shit.

If you are in a crowd of 20 people who know each other. All 20 would have lied at one time or another, in their lives, as adults. Yet, I would bet only 1 would be a bull shitter. And that one would have no credibility and be the laughing stock of the other 19. And anyone who believes a Bull Shitter knows repeating his story puts you in jeopardy.

Anyway. That's my take on the difference between a lie and bull shit.







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