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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just talked to my boyfreind who is in Germany at this time.
He said on the platforms of the U-Bahn there are pictures of Trump on a cross and people have been throwing food at the pictures. The Germans DO NOT like him in the least. I am still laughing my ass off.
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RKP5637
(67,086 posts)Initech
(100,036 posts)Every GOP president has been worse than the last since Nixon. Each time I said worst president ever, and I could back that up with evidence. But the GOP continually beat my lowest expectations.
So now when we say worst president ever I just imagine the GOP saying "Hold my beer and watch this".
tblue37
(65,218 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)1. Remember, new environment friendly light bulbs can cause cancer.
2. I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created, I tell you that.
3. I will build a great wall and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me.
4. I beat China all the time. All the time.
5. If there is one word to describe Atlantic City, its Big Business. Or two words Big Business.
6. Listen, you motherfuckers, were going to tax you 25 percent!
7. This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.
8. Sorry losers and haters, but my IQ is one of the highest and you all know it!
9. So youre smart, huh? I thought your head would be bigger. Looks like a peanut!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I thought 7 was Camacho as well... (never saw the movie)
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)We watched that so many times BEFORE the orange jerk announced he was running that when he did, we freaked out. It was so prophetic and you just knew from the start.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)Initech
(100,036 posts)Honestly I hope we'll never have to deal with a president as bad as Trump ever again, but you know what they say about people who forget history.
ananda
(28,834 posts)nt
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)Germans in particular extremely uneasy. She has a green card and was going to go for US citizenship but now is thinking she may want to remain a German citizen.
C Moon
(12,208 posts)would want to live here.
I've been wanting to leave since W brought us down.
LittleGirl
(8,279 posts)At least for me. I lived in Germany and Switzerland until a month ago and I came home because I want to fight in the Resistance.
And...I couldn't find a job in Switzerland. Unemployment there is about 2% and competition is stiff. I only speak English and know enough words in German, Italian and Spanish to say hello, good bye and thank you. Sure I could have taken lessons but they were EXPENSIVE in Switzerland, just like everything else there. Housing, food and entertainment cramped our lifestyle so we came back to our home here. Just sharing my experience.
Ezior
(505 posts)Some of the Germans who go to university for free and get free health care coverage as a child and student decide that they'd rather not pay the somewhat high taxes in Germany once they finish their education, so they move to the US. So there's some brain drain. You also have those great universities, those are a pull factor for sure.
Also, American culture is generally perceived to be more open on social issues, immigration etc. Basically, some see New York and LA and other parts of California and like what they see, so many of them would like to live there if they could afford it and get a job.
The business world in Germany might be considered "boring" when compared to the Silicon Valley. SpaceX, Tesla, Facebook, Google.... we don't have anything like that. Most big corporations in Germany are run almost like government agencies, where your job is just a very small, boring part of a huge system.
When we say "USA", we don't think "Alabama" or "hate radio" or "crazy electoral system and crazy voters in some states who keep on electing crazy presidents and congress members". We think "Statue of Liberty, Stars & Stripes, Silicon Valley, Hollywood movies, thank you for winning WW2 and actually succeeding in nation building and regime change!". Some also think that the US still occupies Germany because you have some military bases and CIA operations here. Well I'm glad you have those bases here. (Though now that Trump is commander-in-chief, I'm not so sure.)
I, personally, wouldn't want to live in the US because of
- the almost non-existing social safety net (leading to dangerous violent crime)
- extreme political division (leading to hate crimes and missing social safety net)
- stupid electoral system (leading to extreme political division and twisting democracy)
- death penalty and crazy long prison sentences for many crimes
So I'm very glad I was born in Europe, and especially Germany. It's probably one of the best parts in the world to live in right now unless you win a fortune in the lottery (or inherit it like Trump) and hate to pay taxes.
C Moon
(12,208 posts)kimbutgar
(21,055 posts)It's true they don't like him. When we said we were Americans they asked us about chump. We told them we were embarrassed by our country electing him. Some people said they would not travel to the US on vacation anymore.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)A police officer would not speak English to him because they are against Americans now. They know how to speak English because it is a requirement in school in Germany.
Ezior
(505 posts)As a German citizen, I'm really sorry for that. It's okay to hate Trump, but he shouldn't refuse to talk English or treat Americans like shit because of him...
* (You can't really fire police officers in Germany...)
I mean, our police force is great. Mostly because they try very hard not to kill anyone. Some of them can be a little arrogant
There are some really "bad apples" though, and most of those bad apples are simply too far out there on the right side in politics. I'd expect these guys to love POTUS now.
Some Germans don't really speak English BTW, either because they grew up in the GDR (they might speak some Russian) or because they hated school, or maybe they forgot how to speak English because they never had to.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)have a talk with him. Yeah, I know there are some who do not speak English but I do know a lot of them in Frankfurt do and in Berlin which is the two places he has mostly been Every country has their "jerk officers" and he got to meet one of them.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Retrograde
(10,128 posts)He gets points for his recovery work for Europe after WWI and in the Mississippi valley after the flooding in the 1920s. He wasn't equipped to handle the realities of a world-wide depression, as nothing in his business background prepared him (or really, anyone else) for an economic downturn of that scope.
My nominee for the uncovetted 3rd place in the corruption tied with incompetence sweepstakes is Warren Harding, who at least had the good sense to die before many of his scandals got too much publicity.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...he genuinely hated war and militarism, and reduced armaments more than any President before him. He also had the simple decency to release Eugene Debs from prison, whom Wilson had kept in for sheer spite. And he ended the whole Red Scare, the worst assault on civil liberties in US history, in my view. Yes, he was in over his head...but he knew it, and wasn't personally involved in the scandals...
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)Trusted the wrong people. He ran as a "caretaker ". Can't recall his slogan. He wasn't evil or corrupt and many attribute his death to the full realization of just how badly he had been used and the guilt he felt from letting the American people down. Imagine that .
Retrograde
(10,128 posts)Harding had a Shrubesque approach to the English language.
I've never come across Harding apologists before - interesting arguments. I still like the (unproven) theory that his wife had him poisoned because of his affairs.
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)GW Bush and Harding have a lot in common. They were both hard drinking gladhanders who were proudly non-intellectual."The type of guy you want to have a beer with " personality .They were both badly used by men they saw as mentors.
I don't intend to make light of Harding's failures as president. He deserves his place in history as one of the worst , if not the worst president (Trump surely has him beat for worst) our country has endured.
It seems his wife and Hillary Clinton have a lot in common too - including the murder accusations.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)..
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I can't imagine it, but would love to see one.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)All I could say is I didn't vote for GWB.
I couldn't explain why America voted for GWB. I definitely couldn't explain why Trump won, without going into minutia.
Europeans have great interest in American politics and we've disappointed them multiple times. They really can't understand how we elect idiots. Well, the simple answer is we have this party called the GOP, it has gerrymandering, and we have way too many people watching Faux News.
I was scolded by my mother (I'm 49) for bad mouthing the President on facebook as all she watches is faux news. She's one of the 35%. I told her, well, no one should know what I told her, but I read her the riot act.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)They thought the race was between Carter and Kennedy. Back then they didn't understand the primary system. I kept telling them I thought Reagan would win and they just thought he was a cowboy.
This weas during the period when it was trendy for Germans to wear little "Nuklear, Nein Danke" bouttons.
jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)She got more votes, why isn't she President?
Because of slavery and small states. I can't really explain that. I mean, I can, but it doesn't make sense to someone not from this country. Frankly, I don't understand it anymore.
It won't change as it protects the other party's control of the House. And they've won two Presidential elections despite not having the popular vote. That's the real voter fraud.
certainly scrapes the very bottom of the barrel for their candidates. Maybe Nunes is next, or even Jared tRump??
Pachamama
(16,884 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)Whatever she's thinking, I'm pretty sure I will agree.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)Needs to be spread around.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)That goes for everybody.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)DemoTex
(25,390 posts)Most of the world loved President Obama; most hate Trump.
former9thward
(31,936 posts)Always has been, always will be. It has always been fashionable in Europe to have a contempt of the U.S. Of course I don't know what you define as "most of the world". The Islam based world certainly hated Obama, as they hated Bush and as they probably now hate Trump. Are you talking about the "West" as most of the world? China, India and Russia which have billions of people together certainly had no love for him.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I find this curious.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,153 posts)And it's not something they care to see repeated.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Is he trying to return to the us?
ihaveaquestion
(2,504 posts)of the tRump picture?
Judi Lynn
(160,450 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)nt