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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI can't wait until the filibuster is gone
Seems like a tool that was only utilized by conservatives anyway. Other than now when has a democrat used this tool. I should actually say when has a liberal or progressive used this tool, because the Dems who used it back in the day were Conservatives who would be republican today.
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)1 it's act together re candidates
2 their voters off the couch to get out and vote.
Good things can happen. Short term it might be tough, but from the medium term, it will pick up.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)majority well into the future.
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)Realized that you have to take it to them everywhere.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)And it never affects the elections.
Party loyalty and propaganda drive people's votes.
The GOP has used the churches to spread their propaganda (My preacher wouldn't lie to me, would he? He's the guy that's advising me about getting into Heaven!)
How many times have you heard that Obama was the most radically liberal president in America's history. Do you believe that?? The GOP voters do.
The R's have mastered the BIG LIE and the Dems have not developed any defense against that. They assume that reason will win out.
It never does.
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)kudzu22
(1,273 posts)If the reps "go nuclear" it will only mean that SCOTUS nominees can't be filibustered. The regular filibuster for legislation would not change. That would take 67 votes to amend the Senate Rules.
MiniMe
(21,709 posts)It is a change in the Senate rules.
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The reason it only takes 51 is that there is no precedent for a SCOTUS filibuster. There has never been a parliamentary ruling on how the cloture rules apply to SCOTUS nominees. The parliamentarian will rule that it takes 60 to invoke cloture, and then the Senate can overrule the parliamentarian in thios case with a simple majority. That's how Reid did it in 2013, and that's what McConnell did today. Once the precedent is set, you can't go back without the 67 votes to change rules. Hence, why it's called the "nuclear" option since once you invoke it there's no going back and everything is blown to hell.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)The SCOTUS seats after 2018 will truly matter. Be nice not to have Repuke opposition to filling them.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The nuclear or constitutional option is a parliamentary procedure that allows the U.S. Senate to override a rule or precedent by a simple majority of 51 votes, instead of by a supermajority of 60 votes. The option is invoked by the presiding officer of the United States Senate ruling that the validity of a Senate rule or precedent is a constitutional question. The issue is immediately put to the full Senate, which decides by majority vote. The procedure thus allows the Senate to decide any issue by majority vote, regardless of existing procedural rules, such as current Senate rules specifying that ending a filibuster requires the consent of 60 senators (out of 100) for legislation, and 67 for amending a Senate rule. The term "nuclear option" is an analogy to nuclear weapons being the most extreme option in warfare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option
kentuck
(111,052 posts)Just as they thought the Democrats had a permanent majority when they were in love with the filibuster.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)And yes I hope that Senate Republicans use a simple majority to pass the legislation that they have been talking about all of this time.
This is the only way to unmask the real intentions of the Republicans to the American people
The filibuster (which was only used once the first 100 years and used to be 67 votes) has given cover for the Republicans to take extreme positions and then blame the Democrats for not passing their agenda.
Removing the filibuster will split the Republican party in two.
marlakay
(11,425 posts)Can they change to reinstate it?
Seems like a dick move they would do.