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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:28 PM Apr 2017

I see a lot of long faces here. We won the culture war. The GOP is not ten feet tall...

How do we know we won the culture war? Because the Deplorables can only discuss their homophobic, xenophobic, racist, misogynistic. et cetera bullshit online. If they do it in real life they're shunned and will likely lose their jobs unless they work at Goober's filling station. Check that. Goober had a good heart. He could never be a Deplorable.

We brought the homophobic bigots in North Carolina to their knees with our boycotts. Many states caved without a fight. The dollar talks...

Let SCOTUS play their reactionary games. I want to see which businesses discriminate against anybody. We will use the dollar and the boycott to bring them to their knees.



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I see a lot of long faces here. We won the culture war. The GOP is not ten feet tall... (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 OP
DSB, I do love you. Squinch Apr 2017 #1
i agree. just the same, i'm putting paper and tape over my webcam. unblock Apr 2017 #2
You mean the tiny little lens people use to skype? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #3
yes, you'll see one long face fewer! unblock Apr 2017 #6
I thought you were suggesting the Deplorables can use it to spy on us. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #7
I'm putting it in my microwave. mac56 Apr 2017 #11
haha! unblock Apr 2017 #20
There's Already One There ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #33
Hey Prof! mac56 Apr 2017 #34
Looking Right At Ya! ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #36
yes. barbtries Apr 2017 #4
Money is power too. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #5
Indiana took the lesson barbtries Apr 2017 #8
Even Michael Jordan who is a god in North Carolina, albeit an apolitical one... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #9
We have to get enough people on-board believing ..otherwise money rules the day. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #38
Just depleted right now. I'll recharge. VOX Apr 2017 #10
gaybashers won in NC thanks to cooper. nt msongs Apr 2017 #12
We are the majority LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #13
Another point -- localities that accept barbaro-culture practices suffer tremendously for it. byronius Apr 2017 #14
I have some faith that Kennedy and Roberts may start Blue_true Apr 2017 #15
Here, here! randome Apr 2017 #16
I wouldn't say the war is over. I would say many hard fought battles have been won. Initech Apr 2017 #17
Gay people can legally smoke weed at their weddings in 8 states. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #18
The most consequential win is health care GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #19
Public resistance & persistence paying off. Nunes & Sessions recused, Flynn resigned, AHCA crumbled. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #21
Nunes recused? I haven't read the news today yet. He recused himself? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #24
And the threat of boycotts work! NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #22
brilliant move the dems made to force the GOP ... samnsara Apr 2017 #23
I like how you think! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #26
Oh man I hope it plays out this way. Our country is going down fast. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #39
Thank you! That was a breath of much needed fresh air! Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #25
Thanks...we can use some good news! Alice11111 Apr 2017 #27
Direct TV/AT&T Langkous Apr 2017 #28
BRAVO! Duppers Apr 2017 #29
You are absolutely right. Why should we have to pay Pat Robertson.. that old fool. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #40
We won nothing! DownriverDem Apr 2017 #30
The Supreme Court will do what the Supreme Court does. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #32
Wait. You can see us? HOW THE HELL ARE YOU DOING THAT?? randome Apr 2017 #31
As long as we don't consider more abortion restrictions, looser gun laws, etc. progressoid Apr 2017 #35
We are a Heartbeat Away From Losing the Culture War Forever AndyTiedye Apr 2017 #37
I dissent DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #41
I don't know about that ecstatic Apr 2017 #42
You think a Deplorable can show up to work at say, Wal-Mart, and start making bigoted or racist... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #43

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. Money is power too.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:39 PM
Apr 2017

Look at all the business North Carolina lost because of their inane bathroom law. Indiana caved without a fight.

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
8. Indiana took the lesson
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:43 PM
Apr 2017

NC was too stupid for. Here in NC, where i live, the republicans are every bit as cruel, vile, and disgusting as any in DC. they will ruin the state if we can't stop them, either this year or next.
the good news is that more people are active than ever. i am more active than ever, and i am not alone. the catalyst for this is trump, and the clear damage the republicans are heaping on the common american.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Even Michael Jordan who is a god in North Carolina, albeit an apolitical one...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Apr 2017

Even Michael Jordan who is a god in North Carolina, albeit an apolitical one, criticized the law.


And even Burr voted to repeal "don't ask , don't tell." The winds are shifting.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
10. Just depleted right now. I'll recharge.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:45 PM
Apr 2017

Still getting over a looooong, lingering case of bronchitis, no doubt made worse by all the stressing about the reactionary coup and all the utter insanity.

I'll be back to fighting shape in a few days.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
13. We are the majority
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:16 PM
Apr 2017

3 million more in the popular vote
but more than that, more people live in big cities than the country side by a big margin. And also it is shown that cities house a larger percent of more liberal people than not. (they are exposed to more cultures, races, attitudes which has a dampening effect on xenophobia). Sadly many of that liberal majority do not vote. But they will still side with civil rights for minorities and other liberal positions if pinned down.
So in reality the vast majority has already moved on from gay marriage, pot legalization, for examples, and would side with Democrats more if, once again, pinned down. The problem of course during election time is getting enough of them to the polling station.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
14. Another point -- localities that accept barbaro-culture practices suffer tremendously for it.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:25 PM
Apr 2017

There are no Red State paradises. Polluted, ugly, violent, high cancer rates, high alcoholism, low tourism -- who wants to base a tech business in a state that teaches the bible in public schools? No one. Everyone of worth flees. Everyone who stays, decays.

The all-knowing liberal consumer will probably right most corporate wrongs over time -- I think that's true. Liberals are smarter and more information-based, harder to fool -- 'greenwashing' is more difficult than ever, with the entire internet watching.

Great post.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. I have some faith that Kennedy and Roberts may start
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

swinging more liberal on critical rulings. especially Kennedy. Even as things have stood for years, Kennedy and O'Connor before him are the reasons why Roe v Wade has not been totally gutted.m, we got zero help in that regard from the purist who marginally align with us.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
17. I wouldn't say the war is over. I would say many hard fought battles have been won.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

And we destroyed them. Bigotry can only get you so far.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. Gay people can legally smoke weed at their weddings in 8 states.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:35 PM
Apr 2017

And then stream gay porn for free during their honeymoons.

Most of us are here in the 21st Century, but for the control freaks and uptight finger wagger crowd, it must be very traumatic.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. The most consequential win is health care
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:39 PM
Apr 2017

Long term I mean. Even if this congress managed to gut health care the majority of Americans and even many Trump supporters see health care as a right.

That is why they cannot reach a deal yet. If the republicans follow the 30 craziest members from super safe districts they will get killed in the future.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. And the threat of boycotts work!
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:34 PM
Apr 2017

Companies pulling advertising from The O'Reilly Factor now numbers over 50

I won't be using Angie's List anymore and I wrote and told them why.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
23. brilliant move the dems made to force the GOP ...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:39 PM
Apr 2017

..into the nuclear option. Now in 2018 when we win back the house and senate and 2 or more SCOTUS seats need to be filled.. we wont be the bad guys!

Langkous

(36 posts)
28. Direct TV/AT&T
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:22 PM
Apr 2017

Chatted with them today,
demanding a package that doesn't include FOX
because it is divisive
and I don't want it in my programming
Told them I'm researching options so
If they value my business
They'll find a way to remove it from basic programming
AND
they can use my comments for training purposes
Smiles Everyone
Resist

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
29. BRAVO!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 08:38 AM
Apr 2017

I've talked with our Cox provider reps many times about having to pay for religious channels - no offense to anyone here but they are offensive to this atheist. Wonder how religious folks would like having to pay for four channels of "atheist network" programming?!

Got nowhere with Cox. Next time I complain, I'll add Fox FakeNews to my list. Reps always told me if I want such & such channels, I must take the damn religious programming too.




 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
40. You are absolutely right. Why should we have to pay Pat Robertson.. that old fool.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 03:06 PM
Apr 2017

And then there's that nut job Swaggert .. I say that it is Unconstitutional and goes against the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment. Make people pay for it if they want to watch it. It is also ironic that the very people that send money into those shows to support them, are usually poor, and have many problems and issues, mostly financial stress. These Ministries are blood sucking demons.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
30. We won nothing!
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

The Supreme Court will now be able to destroy all I care about. We won nothing. And those who didn't take the election of 2016 seriously are now going to find out what Bernie, Warren, Obama and Hillary were warning us about.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
32. The Supreme Court will do what the Supreme Court does.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:49 AM
Apr 2017

We won the culture war. Deplorables can "hate on" Muslims, glbtq people, blacks, hispanics, Jews et cetera , but the moment they do it in public they are chased from the public square and lose their jobs.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. Wait. You can see us? HOW THE HELL ARE YOU DOING THAT??
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:48 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
37. We are a Heartbeat Away From Losing the Culture War Forever
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 02:40 PM
Apr 2017

If they get to replace Ginsberg with another wingnut, it is all over.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
41. I dissent
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 09:56 AM
Apr 2017

We can bring a state or corporation who discriminates to its knees , even red ones.

Look at freaking Arkansas and Indiana. It doesn't get much redder, and even they were deterred from passing anti gay laws because they don't want to be boycotted.

That was the whole point of my thread. No matter what SCOTUS does there are a majority of Americans who oppose discrimination against anyone, some of whom will use their economic power to punish those who do, a minority of Deplorables notwithstanding.


That doesn't mean Deplorables can't express their hate on the "internets" and such. They just can't put it into law.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
42. I don't know about that
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:41 AM
Apr 2017

There appears to be a resurgence of very vocal, in-your-face-type deplorables who are emboldened by trump. Personally speaking, the deplorable aspect of Trump's victory is what hurt the most.

But at the end of the day, I really don't care what they say or think.

If I have a long face right now, it's because we have a mentally unstable madman calling the shots (literally) and making us all less safe. It's because the elected GOP is ready to overturn everything I care about. I want the ACA to remain in place and improve. I want my rights (including reproductive rights) to be protected and preserved under the law. And I should have equal and fair access to EVERYTHING that anyone else has access to--quality education, home mortgage, jobs, etc.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
43. You think a Deplorable can show up to work at say, Wal-Mart, and start making bigoted or racist...
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:46 AM
Apr 2017

You think a Deplorable can show up to work at say, Wal-Mart, and start making bigoted or racist comments and not lose his or her job.

Ultimately for laws to work they have to represent the values of the culture.

We have freaking marriage equality in America. There are many so called progressive countries who don't.

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