Does it seem strange that Hillary was quoted about 2 hrs

[Grown2Hate]

ago saying that she'd be for taking out Assad's air fields, and then this happens now?

"And I really believe that we should have and still should take out his air fields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them." - Hillary, earlier today.

I would have thought Trump would go the other way, or worse.

Of course he does this unilaterally. Stupid SOB.

Wouldn't be shocked if Putin gave his blessing for this strike to help distract from their collusion.

Random thoughts, sorry.

[dflprincess]

1. I have no doubt he's hoping this will be a distraction

and it's the only reason he did it. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Putin who gave Assad the chemicals or orchestrated the gas attack.

Does anyone believe for a minute he gives a damn about those "little babies" who killed the other day? That would be completely out of character for him.

[exboyfil]

2. Clinton should not have spoken

She just gives him cover for his actions.

[kacekwl]

6. Please keep quiet Hillary please.

Trump needs no help looking stupid .

[Cha]

25. Hillary said this in 2016, too, when assad

gassed his citizens.. everyone is late.

Hillary has a right to speak out.

[leftofcool]

32. Why should she not repeat what she said 2 years ago?

And who are you to tell her to be quiet?

[malaise]

7. +1,000

[delisen]

27. Clinton is right Taking out military installations such as airfields makes sense.

It minimizes loss of life and is likely to prevent more sarin gas attacks on children and other civilians.

[Cha]

29. What's "sad" is you sticking up for trump

.. and Bullshite on your "her words justify the fears that many had about her"

This has been her stance in the campaign.. assad gassed his own citizens when Obama was President, and so many around here were denying it..

Well the MF trump is president now... did ya have any "fears" about him?

ETA.. Hillary's words were direct and to the point.. too bad you didn't think they were "measured" enough.

[ismnotwasm]

13. Oh bullshit

This shit never ends. Hillary can speak her opinion when she wants. She is not the president,

[exboyfil]

17. As a private citizen she is entitled to express her opinion

If she is concerned about checking the madman in office, then she might want to consider the implications of her statements. As far as I can tell, it was a show strike, a $100 M show strike. The Russians were told. The Syrians were probably told. All meaningful assets were probably removed. I hope I am proven wrong.

[ismnotwasm]

22. What are you talking about?

That doesn't make sense

[kacekwl]

31. Then WTF was the point if everyone knew .

Make trump look tough and blow 200 million.

[Cha]

36. This has been her stance for 2 years.. assad

gassed his own citizens when Obama was President and many around here were denying it ever happened.

Well it sure as hell did happen.

[DURHAM D]

24. Amen. nt

[Dorian Gray]

49. Absolutely!

[KittyWampus]

15. Or maybe she's made it plain that this response is not heroic or out of the norm....

regarding responses to the use of chemical weapons.

[uponit7771]

19. +1, and she said airfield(S) not just ONE they can put back together in a week !!!

[Cha]

26. This has been her stance all along when

assad gassed his own citizens before when so many around here were denying he ever did.

[phleshdef]

38. She was being INTERVIEWED and she was ASKED for her opinion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I am awaiting more information before I form an opinion.

I wonder how his alt-right America First base will react.

[OregonBlue]

4. Actually it turns out there probably isn't much damage. Putin must have told Trump to just

do what he has to do to make it look good just don't cause any real problems.

[exboyfil]

9. $100 M and no strategic objective achieved

Nearly the annual budget of the NEH or NEA.

[milestogo]

14. Sounds like Meals on Wheels.

[uponit7771]

20. +1, this is ONE airfield that can be built back in a week !!!

[KittyWampus]

5. Sending tomahawk missiles doesn't require a coalition.

[Grown2Hate]

12. I just meant without going through congress in any

way, shape, or form.

[KittyWampus]

16. FYI, Adam Schiff was just speaking to the issue of getting Congressional input.

[Grown2Hate]

21. Exactly right. Starting to really like that guy. :)

[dubyadiprecession]

8. Trump thinks, "I will do what Hillary says, after all she did win the popular vote".

[melman]

11. What's strange

is how brilliant a lot of people seemed to think it was when she said that. There's a whole thread about it.

Now that it's happened there's a bunch of threads going crazy about how terrible it is.

[Cha]

30. So? It's been her stance since

assad gassed his own people when Obama was President.. and many around here were denying it ever happened.

Yeah, they're really going crazy alright.

[melman]

37. What?

Perhaps you missed this thread. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028902145

or this one. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028902672

or maybe this one? https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028902202

[Cha]

41. So what. It's been Hillary's stance since

2015 when assad gassed his own people.

[FSogol]

18. Random Thoughts? I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.

[WinkyDink]

23. I think HRC Tweeted to stop pre-emptively our protests.

[Cha]

34. What "protests" you talking about?

[WinkyDink]

42. The ones about Trump's decision, that aren't. Hence, "pre-emptively."

[Cha]

45. That's wrong then

[Cha]

44. Wrong place.

[betsuni]

28. Why would Cilinton answering a question about Syria be strange?

I don't get it. Nothing new there.

[UTUSN]

33. Not "strange" that DRUMPF should be asking, "What would Hillary do?!1" Haha!1

I'm taking pleasure picturing his advisors telling him, "Hillary says we should do this."

[Cha]

35. Really.

[BainsBane]

39. He took out one air field

Not the airforce. He can and probably will launch another chemical attack anytime he feels like it.
And you know the asshole warned Putin.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

40. My guess is that it was an intentional (read: sanctioned) leak

I suspect the administration told the minority leadership, and that the DoD or CIA suggested a leak would be a way to telegraph the play to the Syrians so that they could evacuate the base and minimize casualties. Cruise missiles were used so there was no chance of a downed airman. The idea here was to destroy an airbase and send a message - not kill people.

If Assad wants to have any chance of staying in power, he will signal a willingness to come to the bargaining table in the next few days. Putin will likely push him in that direction -- not because he is a humanitarian who gives a damn about the photos of the dead children, but because the photos of the dead children were horrible PR.

Before you accuse me of being cruel and cynical in my tone, remember that a rollback of the ACA will likely kill many American children. I'm far more concerned with Americans keeping their healthcare than how any Middle Eastern war turns out. I'll repeat what I've said before -- our nation doesn't need to continue to choose sides in wars between monarchs and dictators or to get involved in pissing contests between warring religious sects. We are poised to be able to use wind power, solar power, and natural gas in addition to our existing petroleum resources to become an oil exporter. At that point, we really have no economic interests in the Middle East except agricultural and industrial export. By 2020, wind energy may account for 89% of Iowa's electrical energy, and they are selling KWH 15% cheaper than in neighboring Nebraska, which is still very much hooked on coal. Other states should see this and follow suit. Elon Musk's battery and electrical motor technology should only get cheaper and better.

My speculation: Long term, I think the administration wants to lock arms with Russia and impose hegemony in the Middle East -- forget that whole "Arab Spring" thingy. Ending the Syrian Civil War is the first step - the reasoning being that a stable Syria - even with Assad in charge -- would be a bulwark against ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/whatever the Hell they are called this week. Then we can go back to a Middle East run by monarchs, dictators, and Israel -- some backed by Russia and some backed by the US. Back in the Cold War days, we wanted to keep Russia out of Iran at all costs. Now, I think many conservatives (and in this context, I don't just mean Republicans) would find a secular Russian - backed strongman in Iran far more preferable than the Mullahs.

[mr_lebowski]

46. Not unreasonable speculating, IMHO

Although at the same time, I think that Don The Petulant likely has a 'grasp' of the situation that's far less sophisticated than yours.

Sounds more like the thinking of Bannon, Mercer, Prince, et al ... Maybe Jared too ...

Donnie's way more concerned with "Yeah, okay, but will this make people like me? Will they tell me my hands are big? Will I get RICH? Will they talk about what I tweet? Oh, and will girls want to screw me, you know, grab their p****? I love all that!"

[mr_lebowski]

47. Presumably what you're really getting at here is ...

Ultimately, in a nutshell, there's a "Kick their Ass, Take Their Gas!" strategy in play, i.e. you think Drumpf/Putin are aligned in this goal. Not unreasonable. The idea of them working together to let climate change accelerate ... so the Arctic can be exploited for IT'S resources (thus contributing even MORE to climate change) also falls into the same line.

If ONLY the knuckle-draggers on the right could be brought to UNDERSTAND how EVIL the strategy of the people they're supporting really IS ... how NON CHRISTIAN it is to destroy God's creation in pursuit of WEALTH at all costs?

If we can't, their STUPID is going to destroy this planet. They think ZOMG Abortions and Gays and Taxes are the real threat ... they are brainwashed into ignoring what is literally an existential crisis for humanity (and indeed, most of life on Earth) when they poo-poo climate change. FUCK MAN. How do we get through to them?

What's going on here on Earth right now is the reason I completely doubt 'UFOs' visiting our planet. Where we're at now ... it's looking like it's very close to where evolution 'ends up'. It's looking like ... you can't get much further 'past' this stage ... without choking yourselves on your own detritus i.e. destroying your atmosphere.

There's trillions upon trillions of 'planets', and 'life' has played out I'm certain many millions of times over the billions of years ... and in the rare case it reaches 'where we are now at' ... which is probably a condition so rare that it's not happening at this moment within the nearest 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles from our planet ... or some such enormous number.

Yet it appears that, at a point long before tech is developed where distances like I'm talking about can be remotely be 'covered' by 'space travelers' ... civilizations destroy their planet. Due to ... all the shit that's happening here now.

It's truly mind-boggling to think of what a rare opportunity in the history of this universe ... we're WASTING right now. Thanks to those who refuse to grow the hell up and start thinking about THE WORLD, regarding it as our LIFE SUPPORT ... instead of fixating on taxes, and immigrants, and gays, and abortions, and guns, and their lives of comfort, thanks to fossil fuels.

People don't spend nearly enough time pondering the reality of how SPECIAL it is ... that we were friggin' BORN. That we have this WORLD. That chemistry/physics/evolution even allow for what's happened on this planet to happen. I blame religion for that, mostly. "Magical thinking".

Oh, and unfortunately ... a lot of selfishness and stupidity.

[joshcryer]

43. Clinton has been against Syria's air campaign for ages.

This is a natural response for her.

[Cosmocat]

48. Hillary knee what the chiefs were recommending

Because this was gamed out during get tenure as DID.