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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:14 AM Apr 2017

Republicans rallying around Trump. Why?

Today, the NRA began airing a new ad. Against a dark backdrop, the ad gives a scary message. The ad is titled the Violence of Lies. Those who are watching American politics would expect a title like that to describe the unprecedented lies of the President. But that is not the message. Instead the ad tells its own lies.


Loesch’s commentary says that the left “use their media to assassinate real news. They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler. They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and awards shows to repeat their narrative over and over again. And then they use their ex-president to endorse the ‘resistance.’”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028928706


Today we can also look at the New York Times - still a bastion of thought and news in America and the paper of record. The Times is running a headline:
Supporters Rally Around Trump in Spite of Reversals
President Trump’s policy reversals and other contentious moves are drawing scrutiny from the news media and political adversaries.
But many Trump supporters seem to be rallying around him in the face of what they see as a relentless onslaught on a get-things-done leader.


Many conservatives believe Fox and Limbaugh and NRA ads. These lies on Fox and lies from the NRA are the reasons Trump still has support.

That NRA ad is crap. America has a for-profit mainstream media backed by a conservative propaganda machine. There is no liberal propaganda machine. No liberal Fox, no liberal Limbaugh. And a key aspect of the propaganda machine is they must accuse liberals falsely of doing exactly what the conservative press is doing.

Why is the mainstream media pretending the support is organic?

Why doesn't the New York Times put this in their headlines?

Trump support is high because conservative media lies to Republican voters
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Republicans rallying around Trump. Why? (Original Post) sharedvalues Apr 2017 OP
40% approval is NOT high support for trump..nothing could sway a conservative zealot..they are NOT beachbum bob Apr 2017 #1
If it were 20% approval impeachment would be on the table sharedvalues Apr 2017 #3
Trump support is high among Republicans... Barack_America Apr 2017 #8
Trump support is not high Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #2
Why? Bettie Apr 2017 #4
Big man drop big bombs. alarimer Apr 2017 #5
Why do you assume the media portray Trump support as organic... brooklynite Apr 2017 #6
This is how Republicans are trained to respond to fear. Barack_America Apr 2017 #7
When the heads start rolling in the Trump Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #9
Perhaps they're afraid of a permanent Democratic majority. randome Apr 2017 #10
And they SHOULD be. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #13
After everything they've put this country through, yes, they should. randome Apr 2017 #14
And because they're authoritarians . . . hatrack Apr 2017 #11
They've got nowhere else to go. DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #12
First and foremost Plucketeer Apr 2017 #15
Every action has a reaction. Every reaction has a re-reaction. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #16
Regarding Trumps reversals on various policies, I think that in light of his low approval world wide wally Apr 2017 #17
They are shit rock Apr 2017 #18
Your title does not reflect the content - RW special interests are out with ads supporting Trump and karynnj Apr 2017 #19
Yes I totally agree sharedvalues Apr 2017 #23
Don't worry. It will go down. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #20
And so are many Democrats... SHRED Apr 2017 #21
They know that the bottom line is: they are outnumbered... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #22
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. 40% approval is NOT high support for trump..nothing could sway a conservative zealot..they are NOT
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:27 AM
Apr 2017

the reasons Trump won OR conservatives control congress and most state govt...its democrats who are too lazy to vote or took the position of "not able to support the lesser of 2 evils" and voted third party

blaming media...blaming the trump supporters is worthless..

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
3. If it were 20% approval impeachment would be on the table
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:33 AM
Apr 2017

The conservative media is in all-out lie mode just to keep the president above water.

Without them, GOP voters would be deserting too, approval would be historically low, and impeachment would be under discussion.

If he starts a war now, I am blaming Limbaugh for keeping him alive long enough to do so.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
8. Trump support is high among Republicans...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:41 AM
Apr 2017

...there's just less and less Americans calling themselves that every day.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
2. Trump support is not high
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:31 AM
Apr 2017

Why do you think all the above are trying so hard? Trump never really had as much support as he appeared to - remember Russian spamming and bots.

Many if not most of those who did support him have come to their senses.

The writing is on the wall. This bullshit from NRA and others is pure fucking panic on their part. The GOPs goose is goddamned cooked.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
4. Why?
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:35 AM
Apr 2017

It is what they do.

It is an extension of "My country right or wrong"....my party right or wrong, but they're always right in the minds of those who have been raised on pure, unadulterated hate for everyone who doesn't march in lockstep.

brooklynite

(94,579 posts)
6. Why do you assume the media portray Trump support as organic...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:37 AM
Apr 2017

...his consistently low approval ratings have been news for weeks. Just yesterday there were stories that Trump voters were disappointed that he was;t keeping his word...

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
9. When the heads start rolling in the Trump
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:51 AM
Apr 2017

Admin, and the GOP is unable to spin the story anymore, watch them scatter like insects to distance themselves. This should set them back 40 years, if not burn their party down completely. They have an increasingly severe credibility problem. One that they won't be able to recover from.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Perhaps they're afraid of a permanent Democratic majority.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:55 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. After everything they've put this country through, yes, they should.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 09:00 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
[/center][/font][hr]

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
11. And because they're authoritarians . . .
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:56 AM
Apr 2017

They're boot-licking cowards just waiting for the Great Leader to tell them what to do and say and think, huddling in The Group, eager for their chance to berate and hurt those who are not in The Group.

DinahMoeHum

(21,789 posts)
12. They've got nowhere else to go.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:58 AM
Apr 2017

Who are they gonna run to? Bernie Sanders?

Just sit back and watch the fun of these clowns getting their collective prick caught in a cleft stick of their own making.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
16. Every action has a reaction. Every reaction has a re-reaction.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:16 AM
Apr 2017

Cons "rallying around" tRump are a re-reaction to the majority Resistance to tRump.

But their rallies and online enthusiasm is not as strong as it was just before and just after the election. It's kind of reflexive at this point.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
17. Regarding Trumps reversals on various policies, I think that in light of his low approval
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:32 AM
Apr 2017

ratings along with the inevitable push for impeachment, 45 and the GOP struck a deal.
They will get him off the hook if he does what they tell him to do. Every shift he has made has been to classic Republican positions. In return, they urged him to fucking bomb someone, so he used the rationale of "those poor children in Syria" who he still won't accept as refugees. Totally classic Republicanism.

There is also his theatrical friction with Putin to give the illusion of his not being the puppet he surely is (virtually every member of his cabinet with both domestic or international influence has worked for Russia at some point).

Trump doesn't believe in anything besides making money so he doesn't give a flying fuck what the policies are as long as he makes big bucks and Putin doesn't get too pissed off at him. Hence the change in these policies. You can now bet on his future actions and predictability by asking Ryan and McConnell.

I knew this was going to happen, I just wasn't sure of exactly how it would evolve.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
19. Your title does not reflect the content - RW special interests are out with ads supporting Trump and
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:43 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:19 PM - Edit history (1)

attacking anyone to the left or even center.

I have to admit that I was shocked when the President himself declared the three networks, the WP, and the NYT .. among others "fake news" -- and his spokesmen actually gave press credentials to Jerome Corsi writing for InfoWars (Birther, swiftboater liar) and Breibart! This administration has literally called EVERYTHING that once was considered to be reasonable sources of information that should still be checked against each other and foreign (NOT Russian) news sources to be FAKE NEWS. The truth ... Breitbart, InfoWars and maybe sometimes Fox News! This stands everything I ever believed in on its head.

These bought and paid for ads support that bizarre, strange, alien view of the media.

To me, it is beyond scary -- and the pervasiveness can be seen if you google the name of any Obama official or any well known Democrat. Some time in the last few years, extremely partisan right wing sources are very near the top -- including Breitbart, Daily Caller, Infowars and many others. As I do NOT click in to read them -- their titles suffice, it is not my actions that cause these stories to float to the top. If I understand the google algorithm correctly -- those are the articles that more people clicked on. (If true, this is scarier than if google is paying them to put them high.)

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
20. Don't worry. It will go down.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:54 AM
Apr 2017

He's only been president for 2+ months.

No one wants to believe they supported and voted for a failure.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
22. They know that the bottom line is: they are outnumbered...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 11:38 AM
Apr 2017

always have been, actually. There hasn't been a Pres elected with a true majority of the US electorate in decades. Even Pres Obama's 'majorities' were of the actual votes cast, not the percentage of total eligible voters.

As always, turnout favors Dems and Progressives. An enthusiastic Dem base and attracting more voters from the pool of those who haven't been involved is the Repubs worst nightmare. We should make that nightmare come true.

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