At this point I could list the mind boggling differences that would exist had Hillary not had the election stolen from her.

It would be dramatic and amazing to see just how different all life on the planet would be.

But it also wont matter. There is a demographic of young progressives who are absolutely convinced both are the same.

Not just young but mostly. They cant be told otherwise.

brush

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8. The country and the world would be so different, not just because 2016 was stolen but 2000 ...

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 14, 2017, 02:54 PM

Apr 2017

was also stolen from Gore, and someone in an earlier thread reminded us that both Reagan and Nixon committed treason in their back channel and behind the American publc's back dealings with Iran and Vietnam respectively to change the outcome of their elections in 1968 and 1980.

All that of course means, when you think about it, the repugs have not won legitimately without cheating since Ike's second term in 1956.

Nixon cheated to win '68; Dems should have been incumbents in '72 and most likely would have won; Carter won in '76 and most likely would have won in '80 if Reagan had not made the treasonous deal with Iran to not release the hostages until after the election; the Dems therefore would have run as the party in power in '84; George HW Bush may have won legitimately in '88 but he would not have been riding VP fame and would have been out of the limelight for some eight years; Clinton won two terms starting in '92 then of course Cheney/Bush stole '00 in Flori-duh and '04 behind Blackwell's assistance in Ohio.

So all in all without the repug cheating Dems should have been in office two, three, maybe even four terms more with maybe a repug sneaking in there a time or two because as we know sometimes the electorate wants a change from incumbency.

The history of the world haa been drastically altered by repug cheating. The Iraq war would not have happened, Isis would not exist, 9/11 and the terrorist events in Europe and the Syrian refugee crisis resulting from the Syrian civil war would not be a reality.

And of course Hillary would be president now instead of the bumbling, tweeting, Russian colluding, bombing-to-increase-his-popularity-golfing-every-weekend idiot we have in the White House now.