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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:53 AM Apr 2017

Ted Cruz wants to blame Democrats for a government shutdown in 2017

TUESDAY, APR 18, 2017

Ted Cruz wants to blame Democrats for a government shutdown in 2017

The chief culprit of the 2013 government shutdown is preemptively angry at Democrats for allegedly considering one

MATTHEW ROZSA

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas may have been the primary culprit behind the 2013 government shutdown, but that doesn’t mean he likes the idea of Senate Democrats doing the exact same thing.

After a town hall meeting at an air conditioner manufacturing plant in Waller County, Texas, Cruz told reporters that “you know, I very much hope we don’t have a shutdown. I will say I’m concerned. I think [Senate Minority Leader] Chuck Schumer and the Democrats want a shutdown.”

He added: “You know, one of the dynamics we’ve got is the Democratic radical left is demanding of Senate Democrats that they oppose everything, that they engage in across-the-board obstruction. And so I do have some concern that to appease the radical left, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats may do everything they can to try to provoke a shutdown.”

Cruz also attempted to explain why the Republicans’ repeal-and-replace bill for Obamacare failed to pass and how the next item on the Republicans’ agenda, tax reform, could be more successful.

“What needs to occur with tax reform is sadly what didn’t happen on the front end with Obamacare repeal,” Cruz said, noting that the American Health Care Act was “drafted behind closed doors, was sprung on the world and then the view of leadership was that no meaningful changes would be made and anyone who opposed would simply beaten into submission. I don’t think that’s how you get people to yes.”

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http://www.salon.com/2017/04/18/ted-cruz-wants-to-blame-democrats-for-a-government-shutdown-in-2017/

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Ted Cruz wants to blame Democrats for a government shutdown in 2017 (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
Please proceed, Ted Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #1
Ted Who? ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #2
They have the House and the Senate...it is on them. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #3
How many Democrats do you see/hear saying that back at the ReTurds, on tv/media ? OnDoutside Apr 2017 #9
I have seen Democrats saying that and if you want to criticize Democrats and not Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #10
No I'm saying Democrats should be aggressively taking control of the narrative. As a group OnDoutside Apr 2017 #13
They lost the last election and have very little power to control much. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #14
Firstly OnDoutside Apr 2017 #15
I don't doubt that you voted for Hillary...that is not what I mean. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #17
Let's see if the Republicans can raise the debt-ceiling on April 22nd. DetlefK Apr 2017 #4
Debt ceiling crisis comes in the fall. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #11
it was cruz who personally shut down the government last time....remorse ted? spanone Apr 2017 #5
Not remorse. Volaris Apr 2017 #18
Sorry Ted. You, drumpf and the redumbliCONs are going to own this one! democratisphere Apr 2017 #6
Why doesn't lightning strike these assholes? world wide wally Apr 2017 #7
That's part of their ongoing strategy. Atman Apr 2017 #8
It won't work. They have the votes to do it...so let them. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #12
You know that, I know that, the squirrel running around outside knows that, question is... ck4829 Apr 2017 #16

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
10. I have seen Democrats saying that and if you want to criticize Democrats and not
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:41 AM
Apr 2017

Republicans...I am not interested.

OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
13. No I'm saying Democrats should be aggressively taking control of the narrative. As a group
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:03 AM
Apr 2017

the Democratic Party needs far more co-ordination, in hitting back at the Republicans with clear concise points. That Republicans are still chancing their arm in repeating this bullshit, says to me that Republicans aren't being hammered back so hard, they'd be slow to use that line next time.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
14. They lost the last election and have very little power to control much.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:29 PM
Apr 2017

I have heard Democrats say what you want, so yes Democrats are fighting back... but honestly I am sick of the nitpicking concerning Democrats...no I am not necessarily saying this is what you are doing...but there is a mindset that no matter what Democrats do, some who are self identified progressives are never satisfied. I am please with the Democratic fight against the Republicans and think they are doing quite well...I intend to support Democrats now and forever. The 2016 election demonstrated the importance of supporting and voting for a candidate with the 'D' next to his name or face terrible consequences.

OnDoutside

(19,974 posts)
15. Firstly
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:16 PM
Apr 2017

you can look through my posts and see I wanted Hillary to win the primary and then the GE. I'm not a progressive of the Bernie wing, though I think anyone who is a Democratic Party supporter is by default, a progressive. Anyway, the point I'm making is that when gobshites like Cruz come out with crap like that, I want Democratic politicians to get in his face, and call him out on his lies, rather than meekly put in a point of order "well actually I don't agree with you there". That stuff gets lost in the air, and Republicans do this time after time. I want an army of Maxine Waters

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
17. I don't doubt that you voted for Hillary...that is not what I mean.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:06 PM
Apr 2017

I have no interest in rehashing the election or the primary of 16. I want them to fight too and I think they are doing that. I have heard multiple Democrats say that it is up to the GOP to pass the budge and the debt ceiling. Also, sometimes you want to keep them guessing.

"It’s a nonstarter with Democrats: “They’ll have to fight it out in their caucus,” Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., said of the GOP. “This
senator, this caucus, is not going to vote for money for a wall.”

"Democratic leadership will insist that the budget package carries language to ensure the subsidies are paid. Democrats “will not negotiate with hostage takers,” said Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, the top Democrat on the Senate Finance committee."

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/article144674964.html#storylink=cpy


Volaris

(10,274 posts)
18. Not remorse.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:15 PM
Apr 2017

Projection. He knows EXACTLY what he's talking about, and so he knows the ins and outs of how accuse elected Dems of his own self-serving bad behavior.

Since it won't work, have at it, fuckhead.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Sorry Ted. You, drumpf and the redumbliCONs are going to own this one!
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:29 AM
Apr 2017

It should be very interesting how you lie your way out of this one.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. That's part of their ongoing strategy.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 10:30 AM
Apr 2017

Cause it, and blame the Democrats. They do it every time. It's just the way they work. Liars to the core.

ck4829

(35,093 posts)
16. You know that, I know that, the squirrel running around outside knows that, question is...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

Do the Trumpettes and the Info Wars know that?

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