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RexCasual

(171 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:07 PM Apr 2017

Okay, my patience is wearing thin, here. . .

The scandals surrounding the Trump Presidency number in the hundreds, if not thousands. He's a narcissist. He's a pathological liar. He's a racist. He's a criminal. He's a pervert. He's a traitor. And that's just off the top of my head.

Where have our checks and balances gone? Surely the Powers That Be (ie:, CIA, FBI) already have more than enough evidence to successfully indict him. He needs to be impeached immediately, then charged and sent to jail.

His presidency is illegitimate! His campaign team conspired with a foreign government to help him win the election. Everyone knows this. The FBI knows it. The CIA knows it. The Democrats know it. The Republicans know it. Even the public knows it.

Donald Trump does more to damage our country on any given day than all the foreign terror groups combined. He has got to go, and he's got to go immediately! It's time to impeach and indict, and we can't waste another moment!

Gosh darnitt!!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH --- !!!!

<Sorry. End Rant>

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Okay, my patience is wearing thin, here. . . (Original Post) RexCasual Apr 2017 OP
I hate using cliches, but, my sentiments, exactly. C Moon Apr 2017 #1
It's easy to break the rules when Republicans hold both houses in Congress. Nitram Apr 2017 #25
Oh, they know them, and know how to skirt them, and just plain don't care about them. n/t woodsprite Apr 2017 #55
This and probably yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #76
Trump has been breaking rules PatSeg Apr 2017 #47
I suspect it was longer than that malaise Apr 2017 #66
You're right PatSeg Apr 2017 #73
+++ agree iluvtennis Apr 2017 #81
The fix was in and there is no result which wont destroy America and possibly the world. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #2
am I reading your post wrong? burnbaby Apr 2017 #10
Election fraud or she would be. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2017 #33
Voting machine shenanigans in MI, WI & PA. I'm in MI & Dolt 45* "won" by .023% & GOP catbyte Apr 2017 #34
Wisconsin counties that recounted by hand didn't differ mythology Apr 2017 #65
Oh, so if it happpened in Winsconsin counties means that all of the votes were counted properly? catbyte Apr 2017 #68
That's what I've been saying all along... llmart Apr 2017 #69
yes! jimlup Apr 2017 #84
Why Pence? The whole election ticket was stolen Duppers Apr 2017 #18
Exactly LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #56
We must make sure we change the compostion Duppers Apr 2017 #58
The stolen election was by Republican TICKET. No Pres. Pence. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #62
what now jimjc Apr 2017 #3
the only way i see this ending mopinko Apr 2017 #4
That's what I've been thinking Nwgirl503 Apr 2017 #71
I know what you mean lunatica Apr 2017 #5
Nixon resigned in August 1974, almost 2 years after the 72 election. muntrv Apr 2017 #7
Thanks! I stand corrected. lunatica Apr 2017 #8
Here's the problem: The GOP is in control of everything. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #57
If only the FBI could impeach ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #6
I know I'm sick to death of waking up knowing he is still there nt luvMIdog Apr 2017 #9
The Republicans don't care Calculating Apr 2017 #11
He is the republican's dream president. Mr.Bill Apr 2017 #16
Especially if it had anything to do with Obama. tRump has Obama envy...bad. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2017 #35
Their end will be to lose reelection. The people have awoken. notdarkyet Apr 2017 #46
Move over, I want to sit by you... Guilded Lilly Apr 2017 #12
so you are prepared for a Pence-Ryan administration . . . DrDan Apr 2017 #13
No, I don't want any republicans in the White House. . . RexCasual Apr 2017 #14
well impeaching him will not remove Republicans from the WH DrDan Apr 2017 #15
But BadgerMom Apr 2017 #17
wishful thinking DrDan Apr 2017 #21
Right on DrDan. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #28
agree - plus with Ryan by his side (or someone similar, they might be on-track for the next 16 years DrDan Apr 2017 #36
true, but jazzcat23 Apr 2017 #72
I'll settle for some republicans with something approaching mental stability. Paladin Apr 2017 #29
do you think that is the best thing for us in 2020? - some sane republicans or trump? DrDan Apr 2017 #37
trump won't leave much to salvage, if he makes it all the way to 2020. Paladin Apr 2017 #43
control of one house of congress in 2018 would hobble him - then take the WH in 2020 DrDan Apr 2017 #54
If Trump gets impeached or otherwise vacates the office, Mr.Bill Apr 2017 #19
obviously - my bet would be on Ryan - but as you say, it could be worse DrDan Apr 2017 #20
Would a large part of the grounds for impeachment Duppers Apr 2017 #23
that's not going to happen . . . c'mon DrDan Apr 2017 #24
It would only be just and fair. Duppers Apr 2017 #27
I think a lot of Dems are hoping for that. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #30
they need to get back to reality DrDan Apr 2017 #38
Understand the frustration but GitRDun Apr 2017 #22
T H I S Cosmocat Apr 2017 #48
IMO, worse than ending up with Pence/whoever, is the PRECEDENT Trump has set CousinIT Apr 2017 #26
Nixon as least resigned Cosmocat Apr 2017 #49
Yes. Our Democratic Republic has slipped away from us. We can't let it go any further. CousinIT Apr 2017 #50
+1 Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #63
The Republicans are in the majority. Aristus Apr 2017 #31
I don't consider this a rant. ananda Apr 2017 #32
My sentiments exactly. panader0 Apr 2017 #39
Great rant, rant on most if not all... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2017 #40
The people voted for Republicans so law and morals take second place to profits and power. Kablooie Apr 2017 #41
You may need to see if you can buy some more patience on ebay. WillowTree Apr 2017 #42
Multiple foreign intelligence agencies know, too, as they have helped monitor and collect intell! Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #44
Our democracy provides checks and balances... Republicanism doesn't world wide wally Apr 2017 #45
Better fight like hell so we win in 2018 then still_one Apr 2017 #51
Good rant - and you're right SpankMe Apr 2017 #52
I've been waiting for congress to wake up to its roll as an equal 1/3 of govt. nt LAS14 Apr 2017 #53
Are Republicans going to check and balance each other? IronLionZion Apr 2017 #59
This government was put in place by white people who hate non-white people. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #60
You only get one metaphorical shot at the President (impeach/indict) so it has to be iron-clad. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #61
Okay, my patience is wearing thin, here. . . LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #64
We need to take a deep breath here.. some investigations are still ongoing, the German intelligence secondwind Apr 2017 #67
What do you suggest? cwydro Apr 2017 #70
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #74
Trump must go mehrrh Apr 2017 #75
In August I was told I will die soon (within the next 7 years). BigmanPigman Apr 2017 #77
Your answer to what is going to happen Perseus Apr 2017 #78
What worries me is that Trump is the kind of psycho that will take us all down. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #79
I want the FBI to take their time and get it right I want Donnie in prison alfredo Apr 2017 #80
All true and more! Mountain Mule Apr 2017 #82
yep Locrian Apr 2017 #85
I think the Russia scandal still has legs jimlup Apr 2017 #83

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
1. I hate using cliches, but, my sentiments, exactly.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:12 PM
Apr 2017

It boggles my mind ever day I see that they are still in control of the White House.
Apparently, it's easy to break laws when you're rich.

Nitram

(22,900 posts)
25. It's easy to break the rules when Republicans hold both houses in Congress.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

Because Republicans don't know from laws, rules, ethics or morality.

yuiyoshida

(41,867 posts)
76. This and probably
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:51 PM
Apr 2017

why he will never be impeached. Trump is their President, and the Republicans have signed on to own him and his actions. If he went out in the streets, pulled a gun and shot someone dead, the Republican's would have spun that the guy who died, deserved it.

PatSeg

(47,633 posts)
47. Trump has been breaking rules
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:26 PM
Apr 2017

his entire adult life. Sometimes he gets away with it, others he "settles" without admitting guilt. I think it has made him cocky, as if rules don't apply to him. He's taken that arrogance and recklessness with him to the White House. I think he is headed for a big fall and he won't see it coming.

PatSeg

(47,633 posts)
73. You're right
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:20 PM
Apr 2017

Even as a child he was breaking the rules. If he didn't have money, he'd just be that jerk at the end of the bar that everyone tries to avoid.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
2. The fix was in and there is no result which wont destroy America and possibly the world.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:17 PM
Apr 2017

Mike Pence is an ignorant and childish person who will do as much if not more harm than trump.

It sucks given Hillary won both the popular vote and EC. Unless people think the Russians have planted agents on the ground here for the past 60 years, some being born here, in places such as politics, talk show hosts, politicians AND election board members and that once they got their dream candidate, dumbshit, they left it up to the American voters?

No chance of that.

catbyte

(34,475 posts)
34. Voting machine shenanigans in MI, WI & PA. I'm in MI & Dolt 45* "won" by .023% & GOP
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:51 PM
Apr 2017

stopped recount. Give me a goddamned break--how could they? Similar crimes in WI & PA, too.I used to laugh at conspiracy theories, but Hillary and the US were the victims of a coup d'etat involving the Trump campaign, the RNC, and the Russian government. Something dark and dangerous happened on 11/8/16, and the media acts like it was a normal "win." Bullshit. The exit polls here in MI have never been that far off from the vote count.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
65. Wisconsin counties that recounted by hand didn't differ
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 04:14 PM
Apr 2017

From counties recounted by machine. Claiming something not just without evidence, but actually ignoring the fact that the evidence says you're wrong is the same thing Republicans do when the talk about in person voter fraud.

llmart

(15,556 posts)
69. That's what I've been saying all along...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:02 PM
Apr 2017

There is NO WAY he won Michigan and that the polls were that far off. I will go to my grave knowing he cheated. He is a fraud in everything he's ever done and he is not to be trusted because of his mental issues.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
84. yes!
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:30 AM
Apr 2017

this is my feeling. I want to see a scientific analysis of the voting trends. I hope the computer scientists who were concerned and suggested the recount follow up with self consistency checks that might tell us what the hell happened. I am personally not satisfied with the integrity of the voting process.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
56. Exactly
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:15 PM
Apr 2017

Its unprecedented.

Its not like the President had a blow job in the oval office.

Or even that he was caught taking bribes, or even murdering someone. It was not about one person.

It was a crime whose result was that ONE PARTY had a clear, illegal, traitorous advantage over the other. So Hillary should be granted the presidency. But more than that. How many House and Senate seats were won because of Russian trolls? The whole election should be a re-do. And then there would be the issue of how many of those bills passed that were introduced by Trump would be allowed to stand? Because if you simply dropped Hillary in, she could not reverse all the harmful bills already law now. And going forward Mitch and co. would most surely never allow her to introduce anything else successfully while they were in charge.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
62. The stolen election was by Republican TICKET. No Pres. Pence.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:29 PM
Apr 2017

When it is proven that the election was stolen, the rightful President is the Majority winner Hillary Clinton.

If tRump resigns before the case is proven, Pence takes over, but his ticket and the Republican Electoral College win would by rights be erased and Hillary Clinton inaugurated when the case is proven.
 

jimjc

(69 posts)
3. what now
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

we have identified all the dictators problems that prove he isn't fit to be the president...

now what do we do about it...it's still not clear.....

mopinko

(70,265 posts)
4. the only way i see this ending
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

is that some brave dem steps up and puts it on the line by spilling the beans.
that person will likely be prosecuted, and become a political prisoner.

but that is what it will take.

Nwgirl503

(406 posts)
71. That's what I've been thinking
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:29 PM
Apr 2017

If it were me, I know if be prepping my family for life without me. I wouldn't be able to sit on what they must be sitting on, and watch what's been going on. I don't wish that catch-22 on anyone for sure. I wish the powers-that-be would do something so it doesn't get to that point.

Lives are going to be ruined. I just want it to be the right ones.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. I know what you mean
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

It seems like everyone is dragging their feet, but I think we're just getting scared. It's only been 3 months since he was sworn in. There may not be enough to get all the criminals yet. When things like this happened in the past it seems like they took much less time, but they didn't. If I remember correctly Nixon was actually re-elected in a landslide after the investigation into his activities was started and just a few months later he quit rather be impeached. Just like Trump he did a lot of covering up and pretending he didn't know anything and losing tapes and blaming his secretary for gaps in the tapes and obfuscating.

Hopefully Trump will fall in the end. And also hopefully with as little damage as possible.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
57. Here's the problem: The GOP is in control of everything.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:15 PM
Apr 2017

They have become corrupt from top to bottom. The Trumpy scandals are being propagated and protected by the GOP. They ARE ALL IN ON THE RUSSIA INCURSION. McConnell and Ryan quite likely had contacts with Russian operatives and approved of their hacks, their micro-targeting, and their propaganda.

There has NEVER been anything like this. The entire GOP hierarchy is implicated in the scandal and/or the cover-up.

If any justice remains, the GOP ought to be dissolved and delegitimized. The entire electorate ought to be sending them to the loser's bin of history.

Calculating

(2,957 posts)
11. The Republicans don't care
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:34 PM
Apr 2017

Trump is simply a means to an end to them. That end is a super conservative supreme court. By the time Trump is done we might easily have 6-7 hard conservatives on the SCOTUS. They're willing to risk Trump potentially starting a war or something in order to secure their goal.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
16. He is the republican's dream president.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:22 PM
Apr 2017

A man who does not have the reading comprehension skills to understand what he is signing, yet he signs everything they put in front of him.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
12. Move over, I want to sit by you...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:51 PM
Apr 2017

Get him OUT, NOW.

It is unfathomable that this Cretin is still getting away with EVERYTHING. Everything. And his freakish family, too.

Can every agency in this government be so fucking weak and gutless that nothing can be done???? Yeah, it takes time, they say. GET HIM OUT NOW.

WE see it, WE know it, the WORLD knows it.
Jaysus.

RexCasual

(171 posts)
14. No, I don't want any republicans in the White House. . .
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:07 PM
Apr 2017

Hopefully, the whole party will go down with him (or after him), but. . .

First things first. Anything is preferable to the daily embarrassment of a Trump Presidency. Let's get rid of him a.s.a.p., then we'll start dismantling the Ship of Fools.

And, respectfully, I believe with all my heart that, when all is said and done, Donald Trump, the traitor and criminal, will indeed go to jail. Just my humble opinion.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
17. But
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:23 PM
Apr 2017

it would certainly make the rest of this term more bearable. The ensuing brouhaha would overshadow everything else for a time.

 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
28. Right on DrDan.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:41 PM
Apr 2017

Trump will be A LOT easier to beat than anyone else.

It might feel good to get rid of Trump but there's not guarantee that Pence won't be just as bad. Plus, Pence actually sounds like a reasonable person with the demeanor of the President. The Republicans love him and would rally around him in 2020.

We need Trump to stay so we can take back Congress and win back the WH in 2020.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
36. agree - plus with Ryan by his side (or someone similar, they might be on-track for the next 16 years
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

trump is having a hard time holding on to his base right now

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
72. true, but
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:43 PM
Apr 2017

the other thing we need to do is start to diminish Pence! He believes in the bible, not the constitution. And from what I've read elsewhere, the R's are right there with him. So time has come to expose that man for his ideology and make him equally unpopular as tRump. I don't know which congress creep just said that separation of church and state is NOT in the constitution...what?! How pathetic, they just read (supposedly) the constitution on the floor of congress when Obama got in, only 8 yrs ago, and they have already dismissed it! Or forgotten it, or never paid attention in the first place. They ALL have to go.

Paladin

(28,277 posts)
29. I'll settle for some republicans with something approaching mental stability.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:41 PM
Apr 2017

As opposed to the deranged, scandal-plagued, Russian sock puppet we have, now.

Paladin

(28,277 posts)
43. trump won't leave much to salvage, if he makes it all the way to 2020.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:13 PM
Apr 2017

I'd take my chances with some sane republicans, properly scarred and humiliated by a brutal, scandal-revealing impeachment process.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
54. control of one house of congress in 2018 would hobble him - then take the WH in 2020
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:10 PM
Apr 2017

a much better long-range plan

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
19. If Trump gets impeached or otherwise vacates the office,
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:25 PM
Apr 2017

Ryan does not automatically become vice president. Pence would appoint a vice president who would have to be approved by the Senate. He could appoint Ryan, however. My guess is would appoint someone far worse than him, though.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
23. Would a large part of the grounds for impeachment
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:30 PM
Apr 2017

not be because the election was STOLEN? And is that not provable? Therefore the whole election, i.e. the whole ticket was stolen. Therefore, why should Pence or any other Republican be given the Presidency?

The whole election must be nullified. Pence knew about the fix making him an accessory to the crimes.


Duppers

(28,127 posts)
27. It would only be just and fair.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

Of course, rethugs would fight like crazy. My wishes would be for every seat up for re-election in 2018 be given to the Dems, Dems with fire in their bellies. I'd even be willing to wait 2yrs.

Dreams are made of this.



 

StubbornThings

(259 posts)
30. I think a lot of Dems are hoping for that.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:42 PM
Apr 2017

I feel sorry for them.

The GOP will run the WH until 2020, especially with a right wing SCOTUS. That is one thing we can all be sure of.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
22. Understand the frustration but
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:30 PM
Apr 2017

we have no idea what the FBI has on him...all we have is unnamed sources.

Similarly we don't know what the CIA has either.

What we do know that is extraordinarily frustrating is that without a Democratic House or Senate there is no accountability for these scandals.

My exasperation is directed mostly at the American electorate. How they can keep voting in Republicans is beyond me. The colossal stupidity of putting in these corrupt ass hats just kills me.

Until the public turns on R's in the voting booth we are all stuck in Trumplandistan until Comey comes out with it....

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
48. T H I S
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:29 PM
Apr 2017

I have posted, and said to people, countless times for over a decade now.

The issue here is this country time, after time, after time indulging repubican fuck wittery.

Reagen and Iran Cotra, them being complete asshats during the 90s with Clinton, Bush lying us into Iraq, them beig similarly raging asshats to BHO AND doing nothing other than that for 8 years ... Only to have the put up Donald Fucking Trump as POTUS and vote him in ...

CousinIT

(9,262 posts)
26. IMO, worse than ending up with Pence/whoever, is the PRECEDENT Trump has set
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

for the Presidency. If this goes on and NOTHING happens? The next time it will be even WORSE. This crap has gone on since NIXON and has gotten worse since. IT. NEEDS. TO. BE. STOPPED. Even if only stopping Trump. We can deal w/ Pence/whoever afterwards. But the kind of crap Trump has pulled - he's a worldwide CONman - can NOT go on with impunity.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
49. Nixon as least resigned
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:31 PM
Apr 2017

Since them their scandals have gotten worse - Iran Contra (not to mention doing a back door deal on the Iran hostages), Lying the country into Iraq and now 45.

AT THE SAME TIME, they are held less responsible with each incident.

CousinIT

(9,262 posts)
50. Yes. Our Democratic Republic has slipped away from us. We can't let it go any further.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:40 PM
Apr 2017

What's going on now is totally unacceptable.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,787 posts)
40. Great rant, rant on most if not all...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:05 PM
Apr 2017

here feel the same.

Gosh darn it? You really have awesome self control. I've been wanting to rant just for mental clearance but mine would be laced with every symbol on the keyboard. It would be unreadable.

Thanks

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
42. You may need to see if you can buy some more patience on ebay.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:12 PM
Apr 2017

In light of the fact that the Republicans hold majorities in both the House and Senate it's unlikely that a majority vote to impeach could be achieved in the House.

Considerably more unlikely is that we're going to see a 2/3 majority of the Senate who will vote to convict any time soon.

But you already know that, don't you, because you've actually read the Constitution.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
44. Multiple foreign intelligence agencies know, too, as they have helped monitor and collect intell!
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:19 PM
Apr 2017

UK, Germany, etc.
The world knows.

SpankMe

(2,970 posts)
52. Good rant - and you're right
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:51 PM
Apr 2017

I am certain that if Hillary had won, all of her scandals and missteps would amount to 1/2 of one percent of Trump's - and the Republicans would be on the war path.

But Trump's seditious activities - not a significant peep out of Republicans (aka, assholes).

IronLionZion

(45,550 posts)
59. Are Republicans going to check and balance each other?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:26 PM
Apr 2017

They stole a Supreme Court seat from us, or at least we'd have the court to rule against them.

We have a long term handicap in the house, but still a fighting chance in the Senate

If our people vote, we could pick up enough seats to provide some stronger challenges

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
60. This government was put in place by white people who hate non-white people.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:27 PM
Apr 2017

This government was put in place by white men who hate women and women who hate themselves and feel they're safer with a patriarchy and "Rich Daddy".

I mean, why dance around it?

He appealed to the WORST of America's character; a hypocrite gaggle of quasi-Klansmen blaming Democrats for the problems caused by Republican politicians, businessmen and economic policies.

We continue to elect Republicans because we love them too much. America's default position is Republican. We're a bunch of well-conditioned SAPS.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
61. You only get one metaphorical shot at the President (impeach/indict) so it has to be iron-clad.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:28 PM
Apr 2017

This case is enormous, much bigger and more important even than Watergate.;

It has to be done right. There is the principle "Innocent until proven guilty" and that goes double for the President, even if he is only the Minority President.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
64. Okay, my patience is wearing thin, here. . .
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 04:07 PM
Apr 2017

From everything I've heard and read, this whole investigation will NOT be done and finished overnight. It's gonna take TIME. I know it's extremely frustrating to know that tRumputin was in collusion with another entity helping him to be installed into the presidency, and the bad thing is that he's trying to--along with the help of the GOP--blow up, burn down, deconstruct (pres. nazibannon) this country/world as we speak. However, you have to cross the t's and dot the i's, gather strong and irrefutable evidence in what seems to be an ever-widening situation like this with TONS at stake--quite literally our democracy which was stolen by a pack of treasonous, rotten, dirty, filthy, money-grubbing thieves.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
67. We need to take a deep breath here.. some investigations are still ongoing, the German intelligence
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 04:58 PM
Apr 2017

(BND) just turned over to the U.S. evidence of collusion and "quid pro quo"..

This takes time.

It took two years to bring down the Watergate/Nixon mess.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
77. In August I was told I will die soon (within the next 7 years).
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:55 PM
Apr 2017

I am 54 and I am actually not upset. The sooner the better. The silver lining is that I won't have to see Humpty Dumpy destroy what's left of my country. Friends/family think I am kidding but I am very sincere and relieved. In the time I have left I will do what I have done throughout my life...speak up for people's individual rights and freedoms. When I can no longer go to protests I will continue calling and writing letters. I said he would win since he descended down the escalator. I hope he descends to Hell eventually. I believe in Karma. I will be going in the other direction.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
78. Your answer to what is going to happen
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:07 PM
Apr 2017

comes from another question...knowing what they did prior to the election, why is it that they didn't do anything to stop him from running? and that is why they are not going to do anything to take him out.

I hate to say it, but the system is broken, FBI and CIA are no longer protecting the country as they should, they have become too politic...I hope they prove me wrong.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
79. What worries me is that Trump is the kind of psycho that will take us all down.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:09 PM
Apr 2017

Once it's clearly exposed how corrupt he and his ilk are.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
82. All true and more!
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 11:08 PM
Apr 2017

The question which must be asked here is "Cui bono" - literally "for whose benefit?" It's is a Latin phrase, commonly used to suggest that the person or people guilty of committing a crime may be found among those who have something to gain, chiefly with an eye toward financial gain. The party that benefits may not always be obvious or may have successfully diverted attention to a scapegoat, for example.

Trump is a buffoon who has clearly gained in wealth and power from all this, but the real winners are those who have affiliated with the Republican side in their on-going crusade to destroy our democracy and to make our government ineffectual. Do Rex Tillotson or the Koch brothers or any other billionaire CEO's who make up the Traitor's inner circle shed any tears over the very true things in your rant? Not hardly. They're all out celebrating the re-birth of coal, the death of even the most toothless of government regulations when it comes to the financial industry and industries depending on the extraction of C-based fuels, etc.

My major hope lies in the backlash against the Traitor and his absurd policies. Nothing makes me happier than seeing/hearing one of those Republican Town Halls turned into a near riot. Keep up the good work, everyone!

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
85. yep
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:16 PM
Apr 2017

He is the PERFECT distraction.

Thing is - I see most people still believing in the "system" that will eventually correct and remove trump.
Problem is - the SYSTEM is what is broken - and I have near zero faith that it will correct things.

Right now, I guarantee that others are gaming the system: using trump, using leverage, distraction, etc to further gain power. The system operates it: gain power, gain money - it's the only thing that matters. If 'truth' and 'justice' are beneficial to that - maybe he gets removed or smacked down. If not - it's business as usual.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
83. I think the Russia scandal still has legs
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 07:27 AM
Apr 2017

it has not been resolved and it will eventually bring down this bad joke of an administration.

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