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[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. ...

[WomenRising2017]

2. Ooops, the last section should not have been an excerpt

that paragraph is my own take.

[pnwmom]

3. You can edit your post and take that last paragraph out of the box,

so that it's clear it's your opinion. (See at the bottom right, where it says, "Edit post"?)

Thanks for posting this! It's important.

[WomenRising2017]

18. I've tried it a few time

It doesn't seem to let me edit it.

The excerpt tags aren't even showing around my text. It's strange.

[pnwmom]

20. Yeah, that is weird. Does the editing feature work on other posts of yours?

If not, maybe ask the ATA what's going on.

[William769]

4. See here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028961414

Being Gay, my life literally depends on it.

[mvd]

6. Both

I am a Democrat and love what Bernie stands for. While I am a Democrat, I have my own mind also. As a Bernie supporter, my goal is to make the party stronger and not tear it down.

[woodsprite]

7. Both for me as well. n/t

[hedda_foil]

9. And me.

[WomenRising2017]

11. Some Bernie supporters are trying to tear the party down.

How do we stop them?

[mvd]

13. It's not the vast majority

My advice is to just keep focusing on Trump and not worry - Bernie and many other supporters have far more influence.

[WomenRising2017]

16. Why won't he denounce the groups who want to draft him for a thrid party?

Why is he critical of candidates like Ossof?

Why is he bashing Democrats while excusing Trump?

How is any of the above, helpful?

[mvd]

17. He's not doing any of that IMO

We don't see eye to eye on this at all. I don't agree with the whole premise of your post, so I will not answer.

[WomenRising2017]

21. He is, and we won't get past it if you refuse to address it.

[mvd]

22. No he is not

I address what needs to be addressed.

[mvd]

24. And now I leave the thread.

It was not very helpful to begin with, and now you said things about Bernie that he didn't even do. I was willing to reply until that.

[WomenRising2017]

27. I really am sorry to hear that.

I don't see how we can move forward though, until you are willing to address current happenings.

[zentrum]

43. Amen, SebasSea. nt

[Warpy]

8. Not this shit again

Why are you trying to divide the Democratic Party?

Oh, never mind.

Buh-bye.

[zentrum]

44. Really, it's getting

...so tiresome. Every day there's a new one. Same old reasons over and over without an ounce of actually examining why Dems have not held the State Houses, or local offices.

[octoberlib]

48. This divisive bullshit never ends , does it?

The only people who gain anything from this are Trump and the GOP.

[PatsFan87]

10. I'm gay and a Bernie supporter.

He was standing up for me when it wasn't popular. All of my gay friends are Bernie supporters too. Democrats would be wise to listen to him since he has a good message and tons of followers/grassroots support. We should welcome him and his supporters.

[WomenRising2017]

14. The Democratic Party base stands up for you as well.

Republicans not so much.

We need to elect more Democrats, and less Republicans.

Bernie does have a good message, but it's based more on economics and less of civil rights. We can do both.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. Neither, I'm a socialist

I've always voted for Democratic candidates because the USA is a very right-wing country and it's the option on the ballot that represents the least-bad realistic choice. Doesn't mean it's the one I'd make if I had better options.

[WomenRising2017]

26. There are two parties in this country.

Republicans and Democrats.

Voting against a Democrat is a vote for a Republican.

[Spider Jerusalem]

28. Hi, I'm sorry you can't read!

"I've always voted for Democratic candidates". RIGHT fucking there. Thanks for playing, though!

[WomenRising2017]

29. There is no reason to be rude.

[Spider Jerusalem]

30. I think you'll find you're the one doing that

unless you think not actually reading what I wrote and replying to something I didn't say is polite, that is.

[WomenRising2017]

31. I read what you wrote.

And I responded with I believe is the reality.

[Spider Jerusalem]

32. No, you responded as if you HADN'T FUCKING READ IT.

"I've always voted for Democratic candidates" means your stupid lecture is POINTLESS, because I GET IT. Either you're too dense to process that, or you didn't actually read what I wrote. There's not a middle ground, there.

[WomenRising2017]

33. I did read it.

Any additional conversation with you seems fruitless.

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. Good luck with building a winning coalition when you insist on ideological purity, I guess!

[WomenRising2017]

35. I'm simply rejecting the notion of abandoning our civil rights.

I do not want a coalition that isn't supportive of civil rights. And I'm not alone.

[Spider Jerusalem]

39. Yeah, I don't personally want candidates who don't support reproductive rights...

or LGBT rights, or women's rights, or the rights of people of colour to not be brutalised by police, etc, but you know, if you want to elect Democrats in red states you have to realise that getting someone who agrees with 60% or 80% of the party platform and will vote with the party on major issues is an important thing. If the voters of a particular state or a particular district or what have you are going to elect an anti-abortion, pro-gun candidate no matter what then I'd rather it were a Democrat than a Republican, on balance, in terms of ability to set a broader agenda (and because electing Democrats in red states is something that helps shift the Overton Window, if only slightly).

[zentrum]

46. Abandoning?

Wow. I guess any wild statement goes.

Bernie would never abandon civil rights. Ever. Immigrants, refugees, POC, women, elders, students would all do better than they ever have under Bernie's programs, if only the entire party would unite behind them and fight for them as he does.

Please let's not get into the Mello kerfuffle. I'm a pro-choice woman but understand quite well the political calculus required in such a conservative area and what it will take to get a Democrat in there and turn it blue. That would be an earthquake.

[Kathy M]

19. I refuse to identify with a label

[WomenRising2017]

23. That's fine.

There is a whole movement set up for you.

It's called "No Labels".

Join it if you wish to. But keep in mind you are not helping Democrats by doing so.

Civil rights are being stripped away. I'm fighting to stop that. You fight for your priorities.

[Kathy M]

25. Good Luck ............

[ucrdem]

36. Somebody hit the button.

Guess how I voted.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

37. Somebody's a Flaggedcrat.

Yipes, 5 hides in 2 weeks.

[melman]

40. Oh what a terrible shame

[rpannier]

45. Both

[C Moon]

47. Another divisive post when we need healing.

Oh, the flame is dying, let me spark it back up.