My (supposedly anti-abortion) sister runs an adoption service agency

[BainsBane]

turns out that really means she is anti-choice. Thanks to DU, I learned that promoting adoption and allowing the DMV to issue license plates is just as bad as sponsoring and voting for anti-choice legislation. In fact it's worse.

Mello co-sponsored a bill in 2009 requiring women to be informed that they could see an ultrasound before having an abortion, a move that national groups appeared to be unaware of until just now. Rewire reports further:

Mello is a sponsor of the final version of a 20-week abortion ban approved by the governor in 2010, and cast anti-choice votes in favor of requiring physicians to be physically present for an abortion in order to impede access to telemedicine abortion care, and a law banning insurance plans in the state from covering abortions. He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/omaha-mayoral-candidate-under-fire-says-he-would-never-do-anything-to-restrict-access-to-reproductive-health-care_us_58f8e868e4b018a9ce590a84?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

None of that is bad at all. You might see endorsed by Nebraska Life and think "holy shit," but that's just your hypocrisy talking. Wimenz need men to tell them what to do with their bodies. Mello is just looking out for the weaker sex.

But that adoption agency, that is a sign of malignant anti-abortion sentiment. My sister refuses to vote for anyone who isn't pro-choice, but she is uninformed in thinking that means she is pro-choice. Little wimenz like her need men folk to tell her what protecting her own rights truly means. It's not the legislation recounted above. It's the horror of promoting adoption. Now that is evil.

[Cha]

1. Jeeezus.. I'm glad I missed a lot of that

garble garble.

Shine the Light on it!

[all american girl]

3. Bain you are my hero

[BainsBane]

6. How nice

Thank you.

[Squinch]

4. Excellent. Also I can't help but notice that this is another wedge fight between Democrats that

originates with BS.

[LexVegas]

5. Rec. nt

[FSogol]

7. Virginia also has Pro-Choice license plates

29 States have Pro-Life ones, but only 4 States have Pro-Choice plates.

[mcar]

8. It's been an eye-opening weekend on DU

[SharonClark]

9. Sorry, I am totally confused by this OP

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. It's a complaint about critisism of Tim Kain's prior record in Virginia

On at least one other thread I know of, one I started, this story was linked to:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/26/why-tim-kaine-can-oppose-abortion-and-still-run-with-hillary-clinton/?utm_term=.f57abf8cbf06

The "money quotes" from that article concerned Kaine' PAST record in Virginia:

"Eleven years ago, as he ran for governor of Virginia, Tim Kaine made clear his stance on abortion: “I have a faith-based opposition,” he wrote on his campaign’s website. “I will work in good faith to reduce abortions.”

Kaine went on to laud adoption as the best solution to an unwanted pregnancy. He promoted abstinence-only sex education (and later slashed funding to the program, citing research that found it wasn’t effective). He authorized the sale of “Choose Life” license plates to fund religious counseling clinics that discouraged abortion. He backed Virginia’s “informed consent” law, which requires women seeking the procedure to undergo medically unnecessary ultrasounds."

My own reply to the person who posted that link at the time was:

"Out of the examples listed in those paragraphs this is the one that bothers me:

"He backed Virginia’s “informed consent” law, which requires women seeking the procedure to undergo medically unnecessary ultrasounds."

I accept that he has his own moral views and I don't so much mind those who work to make adoption work as a choice. But authorizing “Choose Life” license plates to fund religious counseling clinics that discouraged abortion." is also problematic to me. In general though I accept the word of those who say he has voted to support a woman's right to choose."


In, hindsight I regret that I did not clarify more what I meant when I wrote: "I don't so much mind those who work to make adoption work..." Clearly I, at least, was not attacking those who do. My slight ambivalence (I don't so much mind ) comes only from the fact that many of those who do that combine it with religious instruction and guidance against abortion. The news story gives the impression that such was the case in this instance.

[BainsBane]

11. It wasn't based on your posts

But someone who made no effort to be accurate.

[StevieM]

12. Some of us would like to promote family preservation. Some of us would like our society

to acknowledge the pain and grief often suffered by first mothers and first families.

Way too many adoptions happen because a woman or girl is in dire financial circumstances and forced to accept a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

And there is way too much coercion in the process. No woman or girl should be told that adoption is an opportunity to "redeem" herself from her "sin." No woman or girl should be treated like she is already the birth mother before the papers are signed. No woman or girl should be made to feel obligated to go through with the adoption so that she doesn't break the prospective adoptive parents' hearts. No woman or girl should be given papers to sign right after birth, when hormones are racing and she is exhausted. No woman or girl should be asked to sign papers when she is taking pain killers, or influenced by any drug. And no woman or girl should ever sign adoption papers anywhere other than inside a courtroom.

[BainsBane]

13. Concerns about the adoption process are one thing

claiming adoption is the same as anti-choice is false. According to some, making services available to enable women to keep children is the same as denying women the right to control their own bodies. We've seen a lot of false equivalencies in an effort to normalize anti-choice.