This is a disturbing trend

[PJMcK]

"Stealthing" is a new term to me. It refers to the nonconsensual act of a man secretly removing his condom during sex.

A report by the Columbia Journal of Gender and Law details the growth of this trend. "Lead author Alexandra Brodsky argues that “stealthing..." is a form of sexual assault and should be treated as such."

This article, from the New York Post, brings important information and I encourage DUers to read it:

http://nypost.com/2017/04/24/stealthing-is-the-newest-dangerous-sex-trend/

[Afromania]

1. NY Post Grain of salt

NY post isn't fit for the bottom of a bird cage. I'd take anything they said with a grain of salt and 4 on Sunday. But if this is the one time a day that broken clock is right I'll say that's some real bullshit to do.

[PJMcK]

5. Not everything in the NY Post is infected

Mostly, I agree with you regarding the NY Post. Their political bent is seen in far too much of their "news" reporting. However, some aspects of the paper are not infected with their right-wing virus. The Sports section is exceptional and their coverage of theater and other arts tends to be strong.

In this case, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt because the article is about a serious study published in the Columbia Journal of Gender and Law. Here's the link to the study's abstract which can link you to the full study itself:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2954726

In any event, it would be hard to imagine a second date if the scoundrel pulled a stunt like that.

[Mosby]

9. It's a serious legal "study"

The article does not present any real evidence that this practice is increasing in frequency, all that is presented are some case studies of women who experienced this. The primary focus of the article is a proposal to expand civil and criminal remedies for men who do this.

[WePurrsevere]

6. I agree about the Post BUT unfortunately this bs is real...

Here's a good source:
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/condoms-stealthing-study

[Afromania]

10. thanks for the link

humanity never fails to disappoint when it comes to new ways to do things wrong.

[stevenleser]

2. A disgusting practice engaged in by idiots playing games with their lives and the lives of their

partners.

I can't think of too many things more stupid and revolting. You can catch an STI, you can impregnate your partner and be liable for 18-21 years of support payments and of course, you are then engaging in non-consensual sex making you a rapist.

[ismnotwasm]

3. Ala Julian Assange

When the women he previously had consensual sex with woke with him raping then--he didn't wear a condom.

[PJMcK]

8. I thought of that, too (n/t)

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Huh?

Is it me or is that just perverse and weird? That's just so slimy.

[PJMcK]

7. It's disgusting

It's hard to imagine a second encounter if a guy pulls this stupid, selfish and heinous stunt.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. That's The Word I Was Looking For!

Thanks, PJ. Don't know why i didn't think of "disgusting" in the first place.

[PJMcK]

12. You used great words, the best words!

Perverse, weird and slimy (double-entendre?) all apply to this peculiar behavior.

Enjoy your afternoon, ProfessorGAC!

[Orrex]

13. Well, that's rape.

If the victim wouldn't have consented to sex without a condom, then it's clearly rape by deception, and it should be prosecuted as such.

[PJMcK]

14. I think that's the point of the study

The author makes clear that there doesn't seem to be a legal definition for this behavior and part of the purpose of the study is to determine how to change the applicable laws.

[Orrex]

15. Ah, I see.

I'm glad that she's studying this, because it's certainly consistent with the definition of rape, even if laws don't currently treat as such. The same would arguably be true if a man fraudulently gains consent by claiming to be sterile (which happened to a woman I know).

[PJMcK]

16. Your friend's story

I have a friend who had a similar experience. She and her husband were married for about three years when she wanted to start a family. He had never revealed that he had had a vasectomy. The deceit ended their marriage.

[Orrex]

21. That's awful!

What a horrible lie to inflict on someone!

[snooper2]

18. That is because it happens only twice a year

NYPost LOL

[PJMcK]

19. Good point!

Please see my response #5 above.

[Amishman]

17. This is a new term for an old problem

In college, I remember the RAs in doing an info session on sexual assault and this being included as one of the many forms. That was ~20 years ago.

[PJMcK]

20. Nothing new under the sun, right?

I hadn't heard of this behavior before. It's rather repulsive. There's also a component to this story that I find confusing:

Even more troubling is the online community Brodsky uncovered, where men encourage other men to “stealth” their partners. These perpetrators — both gay and straight — believe it’s a man’s right to “spread one’s seed.”

If these men want to ride bareback for the pleasure, at least that makes sense even though it's absolutely inexcusable. But to "spread one's seed?" What the hell does that even mean? Do these men want to impregnate the women they are defrauding? Do these criminals assume that the condom is the only birth control the women use? If so, they are really stupid as well as scum.

But then, there are many things people do to have sex that I don't comprehend. For example, the use of date rape drugs. Who wants to have sex with someone who's unconscious? And wouldn't one like to leave the door open for a repeat performance?

Oh, by the way, it's off-topic but Donald Trump is an idiot.