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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:09 PM Jul 2012

A warning for the Fourth of July

For a lot of us, it is scorching hot, and deadly dry. We have wildfires stalking this country from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic ocean. Much of the ground in between is tinder dry, ready to burst into flame with the smallest spark.

Tomorrow is a day that all firefighters hate, the Fourth of July. Even in normal years, fires break out due to sparks from fireworks. This year is an especially risky year due to the heat and drought.

So please, please, don't shoot off any fireworks.

I know, I know, fireworks are fun, fun. Being a pyro myself, I completely understand. But I also don't want to set the world on fire, and this year, it is going to be all too easy to do just that.

Sadly, this also means a lot of professional pyrotechnicians are going to be out of work tomorrow. I've two cousins that are pros, and just had their show canceled due to fire danger. They're out of money, and I'm out as well, since I was going to go help them out tomorrow. Ah well, I understand. Cities and towns across Missouri and the Midwest are canceling their Fourth shows because it is simply too risky.

So enjoy the BBQ, friends, family, parades and such. Just keep the fireworks stashed away. The land you keep from burning could very well be your own.

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A warning for the Fourth of July (Original Post) MadHound Jul 2012 OP
Fire hazard conditions will be extremely high. Uncle Joe Jul 2012 #1
And be careful and attentive with the grill!! arcane1 Jul 2012 #2
kick hedgehog Jul 2012 #3
Surrounded by tinder with about 50 animals up here, including about 15 horses EFerrari Jul 2012 #4
A round of mild sedatives, then?? Woody Woodpecker Jul 2012 #8
I know what you mean... Inuca Jul 2012 #16
I'm going to try to get fire extinguishers in each of those stalls. EFerrari Jul 2012 #19
baby monitor in the barn? magical thyme Jul 2012 #27
The horses are not in one barn. EFerrari Jul 2012 #38
No drinking either Skink Jul 2012 #5
"He who comes forth with a fifth on the Fourth.... lastlib Jul 2012 #34
thats a good one! dionysus Jul 2012 #68
Metaphoric bongbong Jul 2012 #6
Yup. Yup. Agreed. 100% Woody Woodpecker Jul 2012 #7
save the fireworks, just shoot your guns straight up NightWatcher Jul 2012 #9
I live in an area in North Georgia where a lot of dumb asses RebelOne Jul 2012 #46
I used to live in Hall County and we'd stay downstairs NightWatcher Jul 2012 #47
I live in Los Angeles and there will be a hundred "sky shooters" out tonight. Watch out! xtraxritical Jul 2012 #48
given local laws, using blanks can be fun. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #62
What's the appeal of fireworks, anyway? Auggie Jul 2012 #10
Sparkly and explodey OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #11
People need things to look forward to, especially during tough times. nt EFerrari Jul 2012 #13
Ah, if you don't get it, I can't explain it to you. MadHound Jul 2012 #12
lol, that "unexpected" part would worry me OriginalGeek Jul 2012 #43
Be careful, everybody.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #14
Ah, so you're the ones hogging all the rain, MadHound Jul 2012 #15
Seriously, it's so green out, it's starting to look like Day of the Triffids out there. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #20
Well, you're a bit far away for me to travel, MadHound Jul 2012 #21
The Sun Came Out After 3 Days of FoggyDrizzle Here AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #45
I'd say 'impossible' but some overachiever would find a way... AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #51
or you can make your own bombs... snooper2 Jul 2012 #17
Umm, no. MadHound Jul 2012 #18
You haven't lived until you're out there with a garden hose in your hands EFerrari Jul 2012 #26
Oh, I've done better than that MadHound Jul 2012 #29
The horses aren't in a barn. They're in individual structures EFerrari Jul 2012 #33
That is a nightmare. MadHound Jul 2012 #39
How about a wireless linked set of smoke detectors. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #70
Watch out for pets if neighbors indulge themselves, they can get very agitated from the noise. freshwest Jul 2012 #22
If my neighbors indulge, I'm going to go over and tell them to stop immediately MadHound Jul 2012 #25
There are in neighborhoods those we can't see. Just saying. We need to support our local ordinances. freshwest Jul 2012 #30
Don't have those sort of local ordinances, MadHound Jul 2012 #32
One of my dogs cowards in her house SoutherDem Jul 2012 #36
It's painful for them, almost as bad as sirens. Keep them in if at all possible. I was just... freshwest Jul 2012 #37
When I was in grade school... Iggo Jul 2012 #23
When I was in grade school, all the parents on our block came out into the street EFerrari Jul 2012 #31
Fireworks are banned in Indy LittleGirl Jul 2012 #24
+1 pinto Jul 2012 #28
my FD launches our own fireworks belcffub Jul 2012 #35
Hose your trees just before dark. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #40
I drove from Wisconsin to Minnesota the week after the big flood in Duluth...So Minnesota looked midnight Jul 2012 #41
Zero danger of that here. July fourth is not a holiday here, and it's 60° and drizzling. DFW Jul 2012 #42
Thank you for the warning csziggy Jul 2012 #44
And please keep your pets safe - TBF Jul 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #50
Well, I was going to discuss the error of your ways, but I see that you're already gone MadHound Jul 2012 #56
Why do you hate loud noises, veterans of war, pets, and small children? uppityperson Jul 2012 #58
I'm in one of those lucky places JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #52
I thought it was a warning about the hideousness of Brad Paisley just1voice Jul 2012 #53
During my 30+ years in the fire service permatex Jul 2012 #54
When I fought fires I always pulled July 4th MadHound Jul 2012 #55
So true permatex Jul 2012 #57
No fireworks this year... cynatnite Jul 2012 #59
It's a day people with PTSD hate, too. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #60
I have a fireman on my street... He's glowing Jul 2012 #61
THis old Rural Volunteer FireFighter thanks you. bvar22 Jul 2012 #63
From one old RFD volunteer to another, MadHound Jul 2012 #64
I'm getting close to the end too. bvar22 Jul 2012 #69
Burn ban signs all over retrogal Jul 2012 #66
My aunt worked as a surgical nurse for an eye surgeon - hedgehog Jul 2012 #65
I dont like fireworks. darkangel218 Jul 2012 #67

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
4. Surrounded by tinder with about 50 animals up here, including about 15 horses
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jul 2012

all in locked stalls. I hate this holiday although I love fireworks. We'll be sleeping lightly for a few nights.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
16. I know what you mean...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jul 2012

only five animals (cats & dogs), but quite isolated, plenty of dry grasses around and my husband is away. I am alone, and barely know what to do if something DOES happen. I hope it won't...

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
19. I'm going to try to get fire extinguishers in each of those stalls.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

If something happens here in the house, I have a plan. My dog goes on a leash and the cats go into carriers that are ready to move on a dolly.

But the horses are outside and I can't see or smell what is happening down there so there needs to be another layer of planning for that. Maybe we need to make rounds for the next week or so, too. Usually, we expect the horses' owner to look out for their own animals. But in this climate, that no longer makes sense to me.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
27. baby monitor in the barn?
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jul 2012

you won't see or smell (unless you get a videocam monitor) but will hear every movement and even breath.

I put one in my barn for a while years ago when I had some neighbor fears. Amazing how loud some snore They can carry for several hundred feet as I recall.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
38. The horses are not in one barn.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jul 2012

And they may be out of range for a monitor. But still, the monitor is not a bad idea for "hearing" outside better than I do now.

lastlib

(27,913 posts)
34. "He who comes forth with a fifth on the Fourth....
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jul 2012

...may not come forth on the fifth"

. .

(Heard that one years ago, and it still tickles me!--I know, I'm easily amused.....)

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
6. Metaphoric
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012

Fireworks not safe any more due to corporate environmental crimes ....

American Democracy on the decline and/or gone due to corporate political crimes .....

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
7. Yup. Yup. Agreed. 100%
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jul 2012

Especially here in Colorado where it's literally a tinderbox - it's still hot out, even with the cloud cover....

Many public firework shows have been cancelled. Some of it is limited to specific counties now.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
9. save the fireworks, just shoot your guns straight up
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jul 2012

just make sure that it's straight up into the air and dont go inside immediately afterwards, wait just a few minutes

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
46. I live in an area in North Georgia where a lot of dumb asses
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jul 2012

will be doing that. No matter how many warnings about this activity, they pay no attention. I am sure I will be hearing a lot of fireworks from the same dumb asses.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
47. I used to live in Hall County and we'd stay downstairs
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jul 2012

on what we called the "redneck shooting holidays".

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
48. I live in Los Angeles and there will be a hundred "sky shooters" out tonight. Watch out!
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jul 2012

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
11. Sparkly and explodey
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jul 2012

what's not to love?


I'll be seeing a fireworks display over the Atlantic ocean - not much to worry about there. Sorry for the folks who aren't in areas where that's possible. I'll try to take some decent pics...

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
12. Ah, if you don't get it, I can't explain it to you.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jul 2012

For me there is the additional fun of watching fireworks I made do what they are supposed to do, or once in a while, do something totally unexpected.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
43. lol, that "unexpected" part would worry me
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

but yeah, making them would add a special degree of excitement.

We're just going down to a friend's rental on the beach and spending a couple days drinking and eating watching the city do their show and, like efarrari said, I've been looking forward to this for a couple months now. The friends are bringing their boat so we can go out and watch from the ocean - ought to be a lot of fun!

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. Seriously, it's so green out, it's starting to look like Day of the Triffids out there.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

But our time will come. We've been whining and crying about the winter with no end for months, give it a good week if mid-80's and sun, and everyone will be whining and crying again.

Anyhoo, anyone wants to do fireworks, this is the place to do it.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
21. Well, you're a bit far away for me to travel,
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jul 2012

But enjoy the fireworks for all of us who can't.

Here, brown is the predominant color, brown crunchy dry grass. The trees are still green, but they are really stressed, as is most plant life.

We didn't have a winter. We had a late fall that turned into a short lasting spring that turned into an early summer(up in the nineties back in March). And very little moisture.

AndyTiedye

(23,538 posts)
45. The Sun Came Out After 3 Days of FoggyDrizzle Here
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jul 2012

Time to look for mushrooms. Fire danger is "Low".

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. or you can make your own bombs...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012

Have a couple buckets of water and make some oxy acetylene bombs. That way you don't have to worry about flaming debris landing a quarter mile away...

All you need is an open area the explosion will blow any fire out that starts....


They are more fun anyway


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&feature=fvwrel

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
18. Umm, no.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jul 2012

The grass around here, and many places, is dry, dry and crunchy. Even a brief spark would fire it up.

Oxy-acetylene bombs are fun though. My dad used to use small ones in his welding class as a way of getting the kids to pay attention to the safety lessons.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
26. You haven't lived until you're out there with a garden hose in your hands
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jul 2012

watching a fire on the next hill across a dry creek bed and hoping the fire department is on its way.

I hope not too many DUers get to "live" that.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
29. Oh, I've done better than that
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

Was a firefighter for a number of years when I was a young man, and simply marveled at the stupidity of some folks when it comes to fire. "Hey, it's hot, dry and windy outside, perfect time to burn the garbage!" Saw far too much of that kind of idiocy.

Had lots of fun as a firefighter, but also some nightmares. There are certain sights, sounds and smells I will never forget.

Following your subthread above, have you thought about installing a sprinkler system in your barn? If you can do basic plumbing it really isn't that hard to do.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
33. The horses aren't in a barn. They're in individual structures
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jul 2012

over about two acres -- their owners are in a co-op on our land. Sort of the worst of all possible worlds from a fire prevention p.o.v. I think trying to get extinguishers in each unit is the best I can do right now.

My two are outside and since both of them are rescued wild mustangs, they are fine. They don't leave much up to trust, they just move.

In an emergency, my job is to get the co-op horses (plus assorted goats and chickens) out where they can run -- out to the fence of these 20 acres or so. And to make sure the FD makes it here through the gate. They are great guys and we have a good relationship with them.

I appreciate this thread because it's too easy to be complacent.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
39. That is a nightmare.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:27 PM
Jul 2012

I don't know how much money you've got, nor how much experience you have in such matters, but it wouldn't be all that hard to rent a trencher to lay water pipe to each structure. Since they are individual structures, one or two sprinkler heads would do. The sprinkler heads are probably the biggest expense, and you might be able to salvage them from an old building somewhere. I would seriously recommend this, since by the time you get to the building, getting to fire extinguisher could be impossible, and even if you could, the fire could be so big as for it to be ineffective. You really do need something like sprinklers which are automatic. Also, if you do install such a system, your insurance rates would decrease quite a bit. Getting the pipe should be fairly easy and cheap.

Put an electric lock on the gate, the kind where you press a button inside the house and the gate pops open.

Good luck.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. Watch out for pets if neighbors indulge themselves, they can get very agitated from the noise.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jul 2012
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
25. If my neighbors indulge, I'm going to go over and tell them to stop immediately
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jul 2012

It is that dry around here, the least little spark could set the world on fire. It isn't my pets I'm worried about, it is my land, trees, house and outbuildings going up in flames that I'm worried about.

Thankfully it seems as though my neighbors have good common sense. Usually by this time we've been through a week of neighbor kids popping off bottle rockets and such small fireworks. This year, haven't heard a single thing, thankfully.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
30. There are in neighborhoods those we can't see. Just saying. We need to support our local ordinances.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

And call the police to prevent them firing off rockets.

I've had friends whose dogs were so upset they ran out the back door and jumped their tall wooden fence. It took them days of hunting thiem down to find them.

For some reason, we've been hearing fireworks since Monday morning on and off. Although it's been cool and raining most of the time. Looks like another chilly, typical Fourth of July here.


 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
32. Don't have those sort of local ordinances,
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jul 2012

I live out in the country, and my neighbors and I generally have a friendly fireworks competition over the Fourth. I always make sure that my pets are secure inside, since three of my dogs are scared of fireworks and the other one hates them and tries to bite them.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
36. One of my dogs cowards in her house
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jul 2012

on the 4th and new years from the noise, also during thunderstorms. The other barks to the top of his voice (or whatever it is for a dog) until he is exhausted. With the "No Fire Warning" I hope the sheriff deputies are going to stop it this year.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
37. It's painful for them, almost as bad as sirens. Keep them in if at all possible. I was just...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jul 2012

Wondering if I had a pet what to do since we've had fireworks going off for a few days. But it's raining, too. Although where I live it's hard on dogs anway, because of the fire station nearby. I think all the fireworks should be confined to public shows, they are usually broadcast. I've enjoyed going to see them over the lakes, if you're high enough you can see them for miles.

Iggo

(49,818 posts)
23. When I was in grade school...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jul 2012

...some big official-type person told us kids "More people have died celebrating our independence than winning our independence. Be careful."

Scared the crap outa me. And now I leave it to the experts.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
31. When I was in grade school, all the parents on our block came out into the street
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jul 2012

in front of their driveway to set off their $25 worth of fireworks. It was a big deal because generally, families didn't mingle in the subdivision and it was one of the few nights a year that our parents were out and talking to each other on purpose.

Anyway, there was little or no danger because they all had garden hoses ready to put out any errant spark.which would have happened on the street and not even near a car or anything.

We're up in the foothills now. It's so dry outside that when I water my veggie garden, I get all kinds of visitors searching for water, from rabbits to quail. And we get afternoon coastal winds that would flare a fire up real good.

LittleGirl

(8,992 posts)
24. Fireworks are banned in Indy
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jul 2012

and they have cancelled most of the shows around town. The downtown fireworks is on because they shoot them off the top of a building. They are asking residents to call a non-emergency number to report fireworks in neighborhoods. It's been so nice and quiet lately since the ban. I am actually looking forward to the quiet evening.

belcffub

(595 posts)
35. my FD launches our own fireworks
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jul 2012

at our private park... people stop on the road to watch them... it's usually a pretty good show

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
40. Hose your trees just before dark.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:38 PM
Jul 2012

Just in case an idiot with a bottle rocket fires it over to the next block.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
41. I drove from Wisconsin to Minnesota the week after the big flood in Duluth...So Minnesota looked
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jul 2012

greener. It was so dry around northern Wisconsin it looked like I was out west... Ironically as I drove through the Dells known for it's water parks it was a sad vision... This makes a lot of sense to cancel these fireworks that are not shot up over a lake like Milwaukee does it...

DFW

(59,941 posts)
42. Zero danger of that here. July fourth is not a holiday here, and it's 60° and drizzling.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jul 2012

I won't be back in the States until Friday,

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
44. Thank you for the warning
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jul 2012

In past years I worried since my neighbors are bad about setting off illegal fireworks and they have less sense than my horses do. We've found remains of their rockets in our pastures even in dry years.

This Fourth at least we don't have the worry of drought conditions - we're getting the second severe thunderstorm in two days passing over right now and the area is still dampish from TS Debby passing over.

I wish all would leave the real fireworks to the pros - every year I hear about some fool blowing some part off while playing with things they know little about!

Response to MadHound (Original post)

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
56. Well, I was going to discuss the error of your ways, but I see that you're already gone
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jul 2012

I can see why.

uppityperson

(116,005 posts)
58. Why do you hate loud noises, veterans of war, pets, and small children?
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:26 PM
Jul 2012

I see you are gone but perhaps you can answer your next time through.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
52. I'm in one of those lucky places
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jul 2012

Here in northern MI we have our shows over bodies of water. Hopefully nobody near the woods does anything stupid but we are fairly protected from those who live on the water.

Julie

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
53. I thought it was a warning about the hideousness of Brad Paisley
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 06:36 PM
Jul 2012

He's puking up his imitation of music at the White House on the 4th.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
54. During my 30+ years in the fire service
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jul 2012

we would always have xtra personnel on duty. I dreaded July 4th because of all the idiots with fireworks.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
55. When I fought fires I always pulled July 4th
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jul 2012

It was always a nightmare, especially since I lived in a rural, high tourist area. "Here, hold my fifth and watch this!"

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
57. So true
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jul 2012

I was with a western fire dept. and I always seemed to pull duty on July 4th.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
60. It's a day people with PTSD hate, too.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jul 2012

There is a Bosnian-American family living in my building and they told me that they dread the 4th because it reminds them of the bombing of Sarajevo.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
61. I have a fireman on my street... He's
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jul 2012

Setting them off for us tonight. It's about the safest way I can think of doing them without sitting in traffic.

And after my husband gets off work he wants to set some off at the causeway... Essentially over water, with sand as the only thing around on the ground.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
63. THis old Rural Volunteer FireFighter thanks you.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jul 2012

The 3 year Drought in West/Central Arkansas is deepening,
and the outlook for any Drought Breaking weather systems is not good.
We have had a Burn Ban in effect for 2 months,
and it is worse to our west in Oklahoma.

Our district has been lucky.
We have not had to go out in this heat and fight any fires (yet),
but we are all jumpy every time the pager goes off.
There has been an increase in Heat Related First Responder calls.

The area is Tinder Dry, and (unlike last year) county and state officials are very serious about enforcing the Burn Bans, INCLUDING Fire Works. They have issued Public Notices over the TV and radio that they WILL have officers on patrol with orders to arrest violators of the Burn Ban.
Most of the public has heeded the warnings,


The grass & weeds on our little place are dead and dry.
There won't be a 2nd Hay Cutting this year,
raising the price of hay to feed cattle over the Winter.
Last year, many Cattle Farmers in this area started selling off their cattle since it cost too much to feed them.

The sparks from a small hand grinder I was using to sharpen a mower blade ignited the grass where the sparks fell last week. I was ready for it, but the ease and quickness of ignition scared me.
It popped into flame like Magician's Flash Paper.

The ground crunches and crinkles when we walk.
We are fortunate to have a spring fed well with which we irrigate our Berry and Veggie crops,
but we made a conservation decision to not try and water the fruit trees,
so no Peaches this year. There will also not be a clover crop for the Honey bees.
We will have to feed them.

Some of the Oak Trees are already shutting down (going dormant) to survive.
Many did this last year, and I don't know how many consecutive years they can do this.

My wife and I are already making changes to our planting calender and crop selections to include more early producing/ heat resistant hybrids, and planting an early crop that in past years would have been lost to Spring frost.
In past years, we planted only Heirlooms, but changed our mind since the standard heirlooms for our area are not able to cope with the current conditions.
We are planting early ripening heat tolerant hybrids this year and having better results.

This week, the HEAT is really setting in with record temps being reported.
The Old Timers here say this happens from time to time, and remissness about the drought of 54, but this provides little comfort when RECORD temperatures are being reported almost daily.

If THIS is the New Normal,
we are ALL in a lot of trouble.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
64. From one old RFD volunteer to another,
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jul 2012


I'm sure we could swap stories that are full of dark humor and wonderment at the idiocy of human beings(you decided to burn your garbage a day that was dry with winds running at forty mph?), and perhaps we should sometime. Being a volunteer was a blast, but I wouldn't want to do it at my age now.

I'm one state north of you, in Missouri, and are having the same problems you are, drought that has been going on for a long time, dry crunchy grass, the whole bit. I have to reach back to 1980 to find a summer comparable with this one.

We decided in the winter not to do a garden this year, let the garden go fallow for a year, add some manure and compost to revitalize it. I'm glad we did. I am watering my trees however, the oldest are eight years, the youngest planted last year, and they really can't go without water.

Next year, hopefully(depends on whether I get a classroom teaching job or not), I'm going to be putting in both a well and a cistern system to collect rainwater from the house and outbuildings, along with an irrigation system coming off of that. Going to power it all with a windmill, should be real cool by the time I get done.

I've thought about going with hybrids, but think I'll stick with heirlooms for now.

Stay cool and safe down there, and have a great Fourth.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
69. I'm getting close to the end too.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jul 2012

The Number ONE killer of Fire Fighters is Heart Attacks.
I'm too old to hump hoses and work on the squirty end in full turnouts and SCBA,
but I still get a kick out of hustling a 40 year old Pumper Truck with a thousand gallons of water over these Arkansas back roads, but even THAT is is getting to be too much in this heat.

The economy and lack of jobs has forced many of the young people in this area to stay home, and a few of them are showing up at our department to help. We are glad to see them.

It won't be long before I'm one of those old guys with a Scanner Radio
who fights fires vicariously through the radio chatter from my kitchen chair.
....and I'm OK with that.



retrogal

(65 posts)
66. Burn ban signs all over
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jul 2012

I am in central AR and we have red burn bans posted going in most the towns around here. Watering flower gardens does no good as the water dries up before getting to the roots. Just trying to keep my grandmothers flowers from dying. She has passed away and these are plants/flowers she had for so many years.
Our tomatoes are not showing any signs of producing.
Driving through towns all the lawns are brown except business's that have sprinkler systems.
Anyone attempting to fire off any fireworks in this area are just plain crazy.
Everyone stay safe please!

hedgehog

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65. My aunt worked as a surgical nurse for an eye surgeon -
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jul 2012

the days after the Fourth of July meant whispered accounts among the adults of the of the attempts to repair the damage of some horrendous accidents. We used to have sparklers until after the year she was attending nurse attempting to save the eye of a kid who'd thrown his up in the air ......

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