Neo-liberal and globalists are as useless words as cuck and snowflake.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Markets are good. International cooperation is good. International trade is good. The world is getting smaller. We can't build a Wall to keep people and products out.

[MountCleaners]

1. Organized labor is good, too n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. No doubt. That would fall under international cooperation or solidarity

[Ezior]

3. I use "neoliberal" as a description for someone

who supports cutting social security (broadly speaking), supposedly to help the economy.

I don't use it as a catch-all negative term for anyone who is not a communist. I love markets. It's just that I'm convinced that some parts of our daily lives shouldn't be left for the free market. That includes availability of food, housing and healthcare, no matter what an individual did or didn't to to earn it.

In Germany, we had a famous politician from the supposedly left party SPD tell us "Wer nicht arbeitet, der soll auch nicht essen" (if you don't have a job, you shouldn't eat). That's the worst kind of neoliberal thinking that I refuse to accept in a liberal party. Unfortunately, the SPD still hasn't quite recovered from their neoliberal peak in the early 2000s under Gerhard Schröder. So I'll continue to call politicians "neoliberal" if they refuse to give basic food, housing, healthcare to anyone who needs it. We have one party (FDP) that is openly neoliberal for supporters of that idea, so GTFO of the lefty parties!

Nothing wrong with globalists IMO. It's the opposite of nationalists, and nationalism often leads to war. For the sake of our environment, we should make sure that transport for global trade has low carbon emissions and we should try to improve living / enviromental / social standards on a global scale, since softening these standards often leads to unfair competitive advantage.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I couldn't have wrote it better.

Some people use neo-liberal as " a catch-all negative term for anyone who is not a communist." Robust markets coupled with rules and regulations buttressed by a strong welfare state have produced the highest standard of living everywhere they are tried.

[Exilednight]

11. This is an interesting point you bring up.

In American politics I define neoliberals as those who believe that all the world's ills can be solved through economic changes, and i say this as an economists.

One argument made during the gay marriage fight is that those that oppose it should support it since it would lead to an increase in economic spending in the marriage industry (cakes, cake toppers, ballroom rentals, etc...)

Is that statement true? Maybe, depending on what study you look at.

Should that be the reason to support gay marriage? No. It should be supported because it's a human rights issue, not an economic issue.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Re-branded Feudalism sprinkled with Social Darwinism isn't good.

Let's not mistake what we actually practice here.

The three things you mentioned are also useless when they're accessed by wealthy folks to stomp the shit out of the middle/working/poor classes.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. None of us are arguing for feudalism or Social Darwinism.

[HughBeaumont]

9. Sure hope not. I WANT workers to do better in life.

Cancelling labor out of the picture due to "adapt/embrace or die" automation doesn't seem to be the best way to go about accomplishing that.

I don't hear any mainstream Democrats other than "He who needs to be marginalized!!" calling for a Universal Basic Income. Fat chance anyone to the right of Joe Lieberman will suggest one. I don't hear ANY party's platform calling for a multi-payer health system except the one unfortunately anchored by Tofu Palin.

Face Facts: Capitalism the way America conducts it has glaring, GLARING distribution flaws and structural employment problems . . . and I'm not seeing any solution to combat it other than "Siiiiiiiiiiiigh, sure hope your crapshoot, whatever it is, pans out for you. Thoughts and prayers."

We don't need rhetoric, we need solutions and game-changers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I can envision a system where working people

I can envision a system where working people are guaranteed a living wage and disabled people are compensated to the point where they can meet their needs.

But markets and international trade are necessary to create the funding system for it. We aren't getting there by building Walls, erecting trade barriers, and resurrecting dying industries like coal. In fact promising people we can is a cruel lie. See Trump.

[Initech]

5. What's going to happen to all that tequila conservatives love to drink?

[JHan]

7. This is so sweet and succinct , love it :)

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. No, the first two do describe points of view, rather than being general insults

(with 'cuck', as used by the alt-right, being a racist-derived term that is the modern equivalent of ******-lover).

To just say "markets are good", as others have pointed out, is a very broadbrush claim, that could be said by an extreme libertarian. Neo-liberals also want as many government services privatised as they can get away with.

And 'globalist' is a useful opposite of 'nationalist', as already said. Just because some nationalists spit it out like a swear word, it doesn't mean it's a useless word.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. ...

To just say "markets are good", as others have pointed out, is a very broadbrush claim, that could be said by an extreme libertarian. Neo-liberals also want as many government services privatised as they can get away with.

To just say "markets are good", as others have pointed out, is a very broadbrush claim, that could be said by an extreme libertarian or a social democrat.

...And 'globalist' is a useful opposite of 'nationalist'...

Precisely, Marine LePen, Nigel Farage, and Donald Trump are nationalists. Justin Trudeau, Barack Obama, and Emannuele Macron are not. Globalism is hurled as an epithet when in reality it isn't. It can be good or bad. I suuport NATO, the EU, the IMF, GATT, the WHO, et cetera. They foster cooperation. Nationalism is inherently bad because it puts the interests of the state over the interests of the world.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Right, so why do you use such a broadbrush statement yourself?

Or was the body of your OP meant to be a caricature of what a neo-liberal would say?

When you say "precisely", you're directly contradicting your own title of this thread. You said in the title that "globalist" is a useless word. I then said it's useful, and you reply "precisely...". Huh?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. The gentlemen in Post #3 was getting at what I was trying to get at, albeit more skillfully.

[Madam45for2923]

14. Walls are last Millennium. Walls are B.C.. Walls are almost pre-historic.