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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe tax plan will pay for itself with economic growth, Steven Mnuchin
That has NEVER worked, and was demonstrated with the tremendous deficits that accumulated under Reagan.
"The scope of the presidents plan, as it has leaked out in recent days, has excited the markets even as it has worried fiscal hawks. If this feels like a familiar debate, it is because it has played out repeatedly in the past four decades as the dominant Republican orthodoxy shifted from deficit reduction to tax cuts.
Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush both cut taxes deeply on the promise of economic payoffs, putting aside concerns about deficits, which grew during their tenures. Mr. Trump at points during the campaign talked tough about deficits, promising not only to eliminate them but also to wipe out in just eight years the entire $19 trillion in national debt that has accumulated over the history of the United States a pledge so wildly unrealistic that even he has since dropped it."
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"Mr. Trumps plan reportedly will cut corporate tax rates to 15 percent from 35 percent, and cut taxes for small businesses and other firms that pay through personal income taxes as well. The administration has also promised tax breaks for middle-income Americans. And the plan may be paired with an expansive spending proposal to build new roads, bridges and other infrastructure.
Mr. Mnuchin argues that an ambitious tax cut would unleash businesses that now feel constrained by one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. Corporations would be freed to build plants and create jobs in the United States instead of in foreign countries, and would bring home money that currently is sheltered overseas."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/us/politics/white-house-economic-policy-arthur-laffer.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-26/trump-s-15-corporate-tax-seen-as-gambit-as-he-unveils-plan
Don't let anyone fool you. This is just reagan's supply side garbage which not only proved a failure, and led to tremendous deficit spending, and set the stage for the financial collapse. This will be on the backs of the poor and vulnerable, and this time it it will be echoes of The Great Depression redux in my view if this happens
spanone
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Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)If u owe too much $, reduce ur incoming revenue. Geeez, I never did good in GOP Math!
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)His son as you have pointed out, led to the financial implosion which almost threw us into a Great Depression.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)All I hear are crickets. In a year we will be down-graded once again.
unblock
(52,227 posts)over-simplifying a bit, but if you cut tax rates by even just 10% (e.g., top rate going from 40% to 36% is a 10% cut) then the economy must grow by an additional 10% in order to offset this.
a 10% increase in the economy is more than double any economist's wildest fantasy of the effects of a huge tax cut, and changing rates from 40% to 36% wouldn't even qualify.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)But profit-taking and cost-cutting (read: mass firings) usually follows a massive tax cut.
Giving wealthy folks and giant entities more money isn't going to make them benevolent. Ask Carly Fiorina.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)Somebody get the hook and get that guy off the stage!
still_one
(92,190 posts)safety net programs to pay for it, and the Democrats need to do what ever it takes to prevent that, even if it means causing a government shutdown
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)they sho ain't going to cut any subsidies for the Rich.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)The shit is getting deep. In what future century will republican voters catch on to this lie.
El Mimbreno
(777 posts)Hugin
(33,144 posts)Oh, wait. It didn't.
Yesterday, on Faux and Frauds they were claiming it would encourage all of the Corps from stashing money overseas to bring it back here... Only problem is, they are paying ZERO taxes in their havens. Whoops, there goes another bullshit argument for a tax cut.