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I cannot stand Ivanka's voice (Original Post) superpatriotman Apr 2017 OP
I can't disagree JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #1
She sounds like a radio-station DJ. One who plays jazz. (Not meaning to insult pnwmom Apr 2017 #55
Me neither - awesomerwb Apr 2017 #2
She can't talk around her veneers. dchill Apr 2017 #11
lol Veneers would be the right word thanks. nt awesomerwb Apr 2017 #17
"Veneer!!" louis-t Apr 2017 #53
I love that episode! StarryNite Apr 2017 #61
she sounds like pageant contestants who practiced the q&a JI7 Apr 2017 #3
I bet she had years of elocution classes. At college I met lots of people from pnwmom Apr 2017 #57
yes, they are putting on a public display of what they think wealthy privileged upper classes JI7 Apr 2017 #68
Wow.. that's a low bar. Lucky me.. I've never Cha Apr 2017 #71
The beauty contestant who lost and is now making porno movies AndNowThis Apr 2017 #73
She speaks like a privileged arrogant brat CountAllVotes Apr 2017 #4
It's a rich girl's finishing school voice... crazylikafox Apr 2017 #5
You're not superpatriotman Apr 2017 #6
Actually it's more like a vulgar impostor's impression of a smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #56
YES!!!!! It is as fake as the gold in the Trump tower. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #59
But I knew girls like that in college and none of them had her voice -- though I agree, pnwmom Apr 2017 #58
It's such a total affectation. I can't stand it either. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #7
shes a fake and a phony and acts like that sweet girl next door.... samnsara Apr 2017 #8
Fake, phony, predatory, arrogant. Just like the asshole. dalton99a Apr 2017 #9
She looks and speaks like a sleek robot to me. elfin Apr 2017 #10
She doesn't even look that good... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #12
Ivanka's beauty evolution: dalton99a Apr 2017 #25
Wow. I didn't realize it was that much... WoonTars Apr 2017 #38
She's a grey alien in Mad-in-Mo Apr 2017 #43
She wears too much makeup ailsagirl Apr 2017 #51
I have no doubts her tone has been cultivated so as to not offend. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #13
A "lullaby con artist." Precisely! pnwmom Apr 2017 #63
Thank you. It came to me listening to her speak at the summit. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #65
That family should have stuck with reality TV, everyone knows thats entertainment they can shut off. Sunlei Apr 2017 #14
Butterfly Princess Grifty Sof-Tone (TM) hatrack Apr 2017 #15
Watch her speak. Her mouth moves strangely Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #16
It's weakness superpatriotman Apr 2017 #19
I think it's partly her dental work dhol82 Apr 2017 #26
Def had a chin implant. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #33
Not big enough, though kskiska Apr 2017 #66
yup, young pics she looks like a mix of don jr and tiffany JI7 Apr 2017 #67
Marbles StarryNite Apr 2017 #62
A friend of mine said the same thing just yesterday. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #18
It's a complete and dishonest front Afromania Apr 2017 #20
I was saying this just yesterday Stinky The Clown Apr 2017 #21
A small request: Can we all please stop normalizing the use of "bigly"? subterranean Apr 2017 #22
I don't think he ever actually said it, did he? ailsagirl Apr 2017 #52
Not alone with this... Satch59 Apr 2017 #23
Oh, I totally can't stand it either! hamsterjill Apr 2017 #24
Sarah Palin's voice radical noodle Apr 2017 #27
It's the breathlessness. no_hypocrisy Apr 2017 #28
She is always talking through that manufactured smile. JDC Apr 2017 #29
A caller on Stephanie Miller just called it "fake Jackie Kennedy voice". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2017 #30
Seriously - I was just going to say, who the hell does she think she is? smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #60
An absolute waste of good air... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #31
Everything about her is fake. When she opens her mouth and I hear that face voice, *click* Zen Democrat Apr 2017 #32
but, but, she's purty! ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #34
Yes get the red out Apr 2017 #35
I've never heard it. I don't watch TV news. Ever. hunter Apr 2017 #36
that breathy, little girl voice irritates the hell out of me. niyad Apr 2017 #37
viper mshasta Apr 2017 #39
I'd rather rise above the physical and presentation, Amimnoch Apr 2017 #40
Oh, she's horrible for other reasons, too superpatriotman Apr 2017 #41
Normally I agree but I make an exception in her case -- because the phoniness pnwmom Apr 2017 #54
she is as plastic as Melania Skittles Apr 2017 #42
A Fe-plorable, so to speak superpatriotman Apr 2017 #44
there's nothing wrong with being born rich and marrying rich Skittles Apr 2017 #45
Born on third base thinks she hit a home run superpatriotman Apr 2017 #47
She looks and sounds like she should be lounging on a couch pnwmom Apr 2017 #69
I think she's as Nacissistic as her father lunatica Apr 2017 #46
I agree. The favorite child of a narcissist is often doomed to have the same defect. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #64
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #48
She's a very robotic person and seems to be programmed in the art of the con. Vinca Apr 2017 #49
She is a plastic person mcar Apr 2017 #50
Never had the displeasure.. does she sound anything Cha Apr 2017 #70
At least we're taking a break Dorian Gray Apr 2017 #72

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
55. She sounds like a radio-station DJ. One who plays jazz. (Not meaning to insult
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:37 PM
Apr 2017

people who like jazz.)

awesomerwb

(139 posts)
2. Me neither -
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:37 AM
Apr 2017

She reminds me of the radio djs with their phony radio voice. She sounds like she wears dentures as well.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
53. "Veneer!!"
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:29 PM
Apr 2017

Oh, that was a drinking word on an episode of Frasier where they were watching Antique Road Show. Every time someone said 'veneer' on the show they had to take a drink.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. she sounds like pageant contestants who practiced the q&a
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

I find her to be repulsive just like her dad.

Melania giving michelle obama speeches sound more normal.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
57. I bet she had years of elocution classes. At college I met lots of people from
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:40 PM
Apr 2017

NYC, from private schools, mostly, and NO ONE who spoke like she does.

She's special.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
68. yes, they are putting on a public display of what they think wealthy privileged upper classes
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 04:26 AM
Apr 2017

act like.

these are people who have a need to prove something to others to cover up the reality of their failures .

Cha

(297,240 posts)
71. Wow.. that's a low bar. Lucky me.. I've never
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 04:59 AM
Apr 2017

heard it.. don't have a strong stomach anymore.

AndNowThis

(1 post)
73. The beauty contestant who lost and is now making porno movies
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:18 PM
Apr 2017
Her breathy, over exaggerated, banal, dumb blonde, vague, useless answers that avoid every subject and make her seem like she is just a bystander, making love to her father.

A the G20 Summit regarding the moderators questions about her father's comments about women (the Billy Bus Tapes)

IVANKA "Well, (breathe, hair flip, mike brought to lips, hair flip), "I have heard that in the media as well...which they continue to perpetuate, but my father hires thousands of women" (He grabs them by the (whatever) right off the street I bet)

On mothers and babies dying in Syria..."Well", breath, Hair flip, slowly, "It should be part of the discussion"

What discussion?

The one her husband has over dinner with his father in law to bomb a school and hospital in Syria?


The one she has with plant supervisors overseas making her products with babies on the floors of the factories?

The one with children dying on the beaches trying to escape Assad's bombs, why she skis in Aspen?


The Working Woman's conference that her father is effectively losing jobs for millions of women?

I HATE IVANKA..HER FATHER IS AN IDIOT SO THAT'S HIS EXCUSE. SHE IS NOT. JUST COMPLICIT AND BORED.



CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
4. She speaks like a privileged arrogant brat
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

And that is exactly what she is and it clearly shows in her voice.

What a pile of dung. Horse dung, dog dung, any sort of dung at all!



superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
6. You're not
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:40 AM
Apr 2017

I'm glad I'm not alone in my dislike for her bullshit.

The whole family and everyone around them are grifters and con artists. The people who defend them and voted for them are 'Marks'

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
56. Actually it's more like a vulgar impostor's impression of a
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:39 PM
Apr 2017

rich girl's finishing school voice. Not genuine at all. She wasn't raised with class and she will never have it.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
58. But I knew girls like that in college and none of them had her voice -- though I agree,
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:41 PM
Apr 2017

that's the impression she's trying to give.

But I think she had elocution classes.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
8. shes a fake and a phony and acts like that sweet girl next door....
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:44 AM
Apr 2017

...but shes the mean girl next door and complicit as all hell with her fathers dangerous behavior.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
12. She doesn't even look that good...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:52 AM
Apr 2017

unless you like your women made of plastic.

Princess Ivanka, future Queen of Trumptopia.

WoonTars

(694 posts)
38. Wow. I didn't realize it was that much...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:24 PM
Apr 2017

...and the picture with her and her pervy old man when she was younger...just makes my skin crawl...

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
13. I have no doubts her tone has been cultivated so as to not offend.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:52 AM
Apr 2017

It's meant to be non-confrontational.

The problem comes in when she opens her mouth and all those meaningless sentences come out. What is intended as soothing becomes a grating sound that is anything but conducive to listening.

She's intentionally vague, while at the same time using words that are meant to be positive. But since I know it's all for show, and I know it is all scripted nonsense meant to make me think she is saying something she isn't... it all - voice, words - becomes one intertwined hot mess that works my last nerve.

She's a lullaby con artist. Her father is a braggadocious con artist. One no less dangerous than the other.

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
19. It's weakness
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:07 AM
Apr 2017

Slack-jawed white trash imitating well-bred old money.

Doesn't quite work. She's no Kennedy. She's no Obama. She's no Clinton.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
26. I think it's partly her dental work
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:36 AM
Apr 2017

Sometimes, when the the veneers are bulkier than your original thickness, it's hard to get your lips around them.
Also want to check her childhood pix. She has a different chin than her siblings. She might have had a chin implant.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
18. A friend of mine said the same thing just yesterday.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:07 AM
Apr 2017

It makes her sound like an non-serious person, too breathy and girlish.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
20. It's a complete and dishonest front
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:08 AM
Apr 2017

coming from somebody who's probably just as coarse, vulgar and horrible in private as her father is.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
22. A small request: Can we all please stop normalizing the use of "bigly"?
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:24 AM
Apr 2017

It seems to be creeping into the language as a legitimate word, and it grates on me almost as much as Ivanka's voice.

Thank you for your cooperation.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
52. I don't think he ever actually said it, did he?
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

I thought he said, "big league"-- but then, I can't bear listening to him so I can't be sure

It sounds idiotic regardless

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
23. Not alone with this...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:26 AM
Apr 2017

It is robotic and pageant queen-ish...SO affected and completely annoying. Her appearance yesterday in Berlin was laughable as she touted being a successful businesswoman...her name was her ticket into everything. I keep wondering if Merkel invited her there just to get some worldwide embarrassment... I hope that whole family goes down with criminal indictments...

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
24. Oh, I totally can't stand it either!
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:27 AM
Apr 2017

It's like fingernails on a blackboard. And the way she was sitting at the event with Merkel was totally inappropriate in MY opinion. That criticism isn't about how her legs were positioned either. The criticism is because she was slouching.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
27. Sarah Palin's voice
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:45 AM
Apr 2017

is SO much worse, though. Comparatively, Ivanka's is tolerable... it's her father's voice I hate.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
29. She is always talking through that manufactured smile.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:47 AM
Apr 2017

So contrived and appearance over substance driven.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
36. I've never heard it. I don't watch TV news. Ever.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 01:05 PM
Apr 2017

If I'm in a place where TV news is playing, a waiting room for example, I'll insist to my fellow prisoners we turn the channel.

But from what I've read, and from your description, it's not difficult for me to imagine what Ivanka Trump sounds like.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
40. I'd rather rise above the physical and presentation,
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 04:20 PM
Apr 2017

and focus on the substance.

The privileged nepotism that she defends is repulsive.

The level of her involvement in government affairs as a result of that nepotism.

Her defense of the President, on the international stage, as a supporter of women when there's soooo much evidence to the contrary is detestable.

I will attack her, as a free and independent equal. I, for one, refuse to formulate my opinions of her based on her appearances, perceptions of a fake nature, or her voice.

My apologies to you superpatriotman, but these kinds of stances just ring too close to the generalizations used against women in all ranges of the political spectrum. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but in my own opinion I'd ask you to give it some additional consideration, and use critical thinking practices to formulate your opinions on her (and all people).

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
54. Normally I agree but I make an exception in her case -- because the phoniness
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:36 PM
Apr 2017

of that voice is what repels me. The smooth, polished tones of a jazz radio-station DJ. And I think her "fake nature" is worth criticizing. Like her narcissistic father, she is all about the surface; the presentation. Yuk.

I also hate her father's voice, for different reasons. So it's not a gender-based thing.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
45. there's nothing wrong with being born rich and marrying rich
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 04:50 PM
Apr 2017

what is wrong is when that person then tries to act like they did not come from extreme privilege

people like Ivanka and Ann Romney - even if they mean well (which is debatable), they come off sounding pompous and clueless

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
69. She looks and sounds like she should be lounging on a couch
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 04:44 AM
Apr 2017

in a Viagra commercial.


Yeah, I know, I'm a terrible person. (But if you've seen those ads you know I'm right.)

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
46. I think she's as Nacissistic as her father
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 04:54 PM
Apr 2017

Why else would she believe she's entitled to the job when it obvious she and her father are incompetent.

Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

mcar

(42,331 posts)
50. She is a plastic person
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:10 PM
Apr 2017

I think she must stand in front of a mirror and practice speaking in a way that her face never really moves.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
70. Never had the displeasure.. does she sound anything
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 04:57 AM
Apr 2017

like father drumpfuck?

I just heard his voice in clips on Seth Meyers show.. and I mentioned it sounded like chalk on a blackboard.

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