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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:07 PM Apr 2017

One of the many disturbing things about tRump supporters is...

...that even now that they know he lied to them they still support him.
This tells me they are not necessarily ignorant so much as they are malicious, vindictive, and spiteful.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering they voted for him knowing his misogyny and that he mocked the handicapped.

These aren't Christians. No, these are vile cretins for whom the word "deplorables" is much too kind.

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One of the many disturbing things about tRump supporters is... (Original Post) SHRED Apr 2017 OP
They're defensively aggressive lunatica Apr 2017 #1
Huh Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2017 #3
Uh Oh! lunatica Apr 2017 #5
Do NOT let them attach to you, they might lay eggs... Thor_MN Apr 2017 #25
Lol! kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #63
Aggressively Defensive, too nt duhneece Apr 2017 #32
I call it Woim Syndrome... JHB Apr 2017 #48
Or Like Grover in A Christmas Story ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #66
Good way of putting it sammythecat Apr 2017 #50
Listen to me...FACTS don't matter to them...TRUTH does not matter to them LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #2
Thanks...I realize this SHRED Apr 2017 #4
Oh so true. Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #6
I agree BigOleDummy Apr 2017 #7
They are looking for a strong leader. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #26
No. They aren't. They are looking to amerliorate their sense of spite LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #28
Well, they are looking for a strong leader with answers. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #29
I think this is partially true Lyricalinklines Apr 2017 #51
Welcome to DU, and thank you for the excellent addition. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #67
They do NOT want *ANSWERS*...I promise you, they are NOT "lost" LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #70
Hence the phrase; Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2017 #53
And what do we do about a group like that? FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #33
You *TELL* them...and they do NOT make up half the country. LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #34
Close enough to half that every election is a toss-up FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #43
We out vote them... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #41
Many years back when Al Franken was on Air America NewJeffCT Apr 2017 #36
They are "right" azureblue Apr 2017 #37
Yes, and... Orrex Apr 2017 #42
A lot of them don't like to be "told" anything bigbrother05 Apr 2017 #46
That's a truly frightening thought sammythecat Apr 2017 #54
AND they don't like to have to think for themselves. calimary Apr 2017 #55
They are brainwashed by Limbaugh and Faux News. 24x7. Also, they're racists. They hate the kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #62
In some twisted way they vicariously become the enforcer MedusaX Apr 2017 #8
I agree with this. It's an odd, detached power by proxy thing JDC Apr 2017 #18
This is so true. They think they've been helped when they've really been HAD. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #9
So Rachael had a good point the other night jimlup Apr 2017 #10
It really is just that simple isn't it? Ligyron Apr 2017 #13
It's never about reason azureblue Apr 2017 #38
That's it exactly! smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #16
Yep, so true iluvtennis Apr 2017 #22
Exactly! mountain grammy Apr 2017 #11
Every response here is spot on world wide wally Apr 2017 #12
America isn't dead, it's on life support. PdxSean Apr 2017 #14
it's not political azureblue Apr 2017 #40
They got two direct doses of tRump this week. One came this morning. ffr Apr 2017 #15
I prefer to call them what Trump calls them greymattermom Apr 2017 #17
If you strictly watch Fox News... yallerdawg Apr 2017 #19
That is a good point. Flaleftist Apr 2017 #23
Yep. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #65
They have been programmed to relish anything that pisses off a Democrat Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #20
Yes they have. SHRED Apr 2017 #21
He is their weapon against us GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #24
I call it "willful" denial. These fools have chosen to ignore facts, evidence, reason... manicraven Apr 2017 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #30
These are people that voted against their own best interest for years liberal N proud Apr 2017 #31
this picture explains a lot... spanone Apr 2017 #39
Yes, spot on!! MatthewStLouis Apr 2017 #44
Wait until their first Trump tax bill. They all love money more than Jesus and we know it. Johonny Apr 2017 #45
The only thing the deplorables care about is sticking it to libruhls. muntrv Apr 2017 #47
The media they consume brainwashes/hypnotizes them. Consequently, they are in a trance don't Amaryllis Apr 2017 #49
Willfully ignorant Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2017 #52
Ignorant and arrogant about it . Don't forget the superior sense and overbearing attitude that goes lunasun Apr 2017 #58
That is what hurts me the most. So, trump is evil, crazy, an imbecile, etc. OK, he is just one man lunamagica Apr 2017 #56
The Trump supporters I know and see on TV TNLib Apr 2017 #57
There is a difference between supporting Trump... Orsino Apr 2017 #59
Doesn't matter what Drumpt does, what matters is Benghazi and emails.. kairos12 Apr 2017 #60
Don't forget stupid. They're really stupid. rivegauche Apr 2017 #61
Yup, the fact that 96% of Trump voters would vote him in again is appalling. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #64
They're brain dead zombies bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #68
Exactly how I feel Mercurian Apr 2017 #69

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. Uh Oh!
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:12 PM
Apr 2017

You see right through they're bullying to hide how weak they feel!!

Don't tell them that. Be careful!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
48. I call it Woim Syndrome...
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017

"Woim" being the toady of Butch the bully in the old Our Gang/Little Rascals films.

Always an appendage ready to cheer "Yeah, GET him, hit him again!" and occasionally get in a kick at an already-battered victim.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
66. Or Like Grover in A Christmas Story
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:26 PM
Apr 2017

He was Scott Farkus' little toady in that movie. Same thing you're describing.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
50. Good way of putting it
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:50 PM
Apr 2017

I also agree with the OP. These people, who STILL, at this point think this tin pot president is doing just fine ... I really don't know what to say. They disgust me. My "fellow Americans", ugh! Such people are going to be the ruin of this country.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
2. Listen to me...FACTS don't matter to them...TRUTH does not matter to them
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:09 PM
Apr 2017

REASON does not matter to them. They *like* *AUTHORITY*. They *like* to be TOLD. They don't like freedom. I am not kidding, and the sooner you grasp this, the better off you will be

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
28. No. They aren't. They are looking to amerliorate their sense of spite
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:22 PM
Apr 2017

and they aren't looking for answer at ALL. That's why they openly call themselves ditto-heads. they are NOT looking for any answers. They want to be TOLD

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
29. Well, they are looking for a strong leader with answers.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:28 PM
Apr 2017

It does not matter that the answers and the solutions have been proven wrong time and again.

Lyricalinklines

(367 posts)
51. I think this is partially true
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:51 PM
Apr 2017

Greater is that they are looking for someone who appears to fill their "ideal" of success, strength and truth. Many jumped in through fear rather than wanting to discover for themselves facts.



Edit: 'jumped in' meaning at some point began following national issues after feeling fear as the 2008 recession and growing political environment (elections, etc) as they wanted assurance the government was working. I hear many in such position say they realized (after listening to Faux news) that the government had been "hijacked by the Democrats" and felt "we have to save America".

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
70. They do NOT want *ANSWERS*...I promise you, they are NOT "lost"
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 05:25 PM
Apr 2017

They are FOUND.

They don't want the answers, or the truth, or the facts.

They want to be TOLD. And they admire spite.

That's it

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
33. And what do we do about a group like that?
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:01 AM
Apr 2017

Reason is obviously out of the question.

And now we know they make up about half the country.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
41. We out vote them...
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 10:36 AM
Apr 2017

take away their political power and leave them to stew in their own juices.

And no, it is NOT half the country. We haven't had a truly "majority" president or government in a while, if ever. What we get, cycle after cycle, is a group of people in government who might get more votes, but seldom get a true 50% of eligible voters. We need more people to get over their discouragement and get out and vote, and pay attention between elections.

Trump's poll numbers are basically the same as they were on election night. And it isn't a majority.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
36. Many years back when Al Franken was on Air America
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 10:07 AM
Apr 2017

Franken would have a daily segment with a good friend of his that was a dedicated Rush Limbaugh fan. The guy would come on and Al would debunk Rush’s latest talking point as a lie, half truth or weasel words (something taken out of context, I think). However, the guy kept listening to Rush faithfully even though Al would debunk him. Finally, a frustrated Franken challenged his friend to find anything in the past month that Rush said that was 100% true – they guy could not do it, even though Al gave him a week. The friend then responded that it didn’t matter that Rush lied all the time – he just liked Rush and his talking points and the attitude in which they were delivered.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
42. Yes, and...
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

Even as they're prostrating themselves before their bloated orange idol, they insist that they're the true "rugged individualists" in the True American Spirit™.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
46. A lot of them don't like to be "told" anything
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 11:10 AM
Apr 2017

They like to feel the vindication of their prejudice that Trump's election granted their hatred. They feel that now they can tell everyone how their innate superiority must be acknowledged and respected without question.

To them the only truth is that they have been right all along.

Where Trump will fail is when they realize that they will lose as much or more than the ones they hate.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
54. That's a truly frightening thought
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 01:03 PM
Apr 2017

and I think you're exactly right. Facts, truth, and reason really seem to have zero effect on them! The age of "Idiocracy" is upon us and I say that in all seriousness. Trump is going to wind up worse than W ever was, it's just a matter of time.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
55. AND they don't like to have to think for themselves.
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 01:29 PM
Apr 2017

Ever since rush limbaugh told them "you don't even have to think! I'LL do the thinking FOR you!" - they've had a free pass to ignore facts, ignore reality, ignore learning, ignore anything but the baloney from inside the bubble in which they insist on living. I remember being shocked motionless when I heard him say that on the radio, which I actually did one day, years ago. They even have a response to that when you try to question them: "I know what I know."

Gee, don't know why, but the word "deplorable" comes to mind.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
62. They are brainwashed by Limbaugh and Faux News. 24x7. Also, they're racists. They hate the
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:18 PM
Apr 2017

false "fact" that "those brown/black people" are getting this fictional money that should be going to them. They hate us intellectual "smarty pants" elitists or independent-thinking people who refuse to succumb and who look at them with disdain. It's the "regular dunkin donut coffee drinkers" vs. all of us (mostly imagined) Starbucks latte drinkers. Maybe you can now add "smoothie drinkers" and "organic food eating" people to that.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
8. In some twisted way they vicariously become the enforcer
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:33 PM
Apr 2017

Through 45's words & actions.....

Never realizing that they have 'submitted' to the authoritarian ....

They get off on the visions of authoritarian oppression & suppression that dance in their heads...

Yet if you ask them if they like it when government tells them what to do/ forces them to do something
Its all a macho fuck you ... hell no... nobody tells me wut to do... blah blah

They think the authoritarian oppresses & suppresses in their name/ on their behalf..

When in reality the authoritarian does so only for himself .... and sees all his loyal supporters as submissive dumbasses who deserve to get fucked over.... soon it will be their turn.

Response to SHRED (Original post)

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
10. So Rachael had a good point the other night
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:55 PM
Apr 2017

when she said they support him because he attacks us and they hate us. That is what it is really about actually. I guess to them we are the smart kids that they hated in school and stuff.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
13. It really is just that simple isn't it?
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:02 PM
Apr 2017

I don't give them the satisfaction.

The one thing they hate more than anything is being laughed at. That's when they're smart enough to know the joke is on them.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
38. It's never about reason
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 10:25 AM
Apr 2017

or logic or discussion with them. It's all emotional, coupled with an almost pathological resistance to thinking.

PdxSean

(574 posts)
14. America isn't dead, it's on life support.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:07 PM
Apr 2017

The question is whether democrats are willing to do what's necessary to keep republicans from killing America.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
40. it's not political
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 10:33 AM
Apr 2017

it's deeper than that and the problem is the TV. Most people will sit and watch it, which encourages non thinking, so they will accept whatever the TV tells them. TV is geared towards a 7th grade level education, so a person gets used to thinking on that level, and it becomes the norm for communication. Plus, TV shows are all about conflict / resolution and most of them are what I call "comic book" shows, especially action shows. Gawd, what cliches, and the viewer buys them and the simplistic thinking behind them. So it doesn't take long before the mind sort of goes blank from the endless stream of reality avoiding entertainment. And them a person would rather sit in front of the tube and be entertained and not have to think or participate in the worlds around them....

ffr

(22,670 posts)
15. They got two direct doses of tRump this week. One came this morning.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 06:33 PM
Apr 2017

Today ==> U.S. Steel suffers biggest stock plunge in its 26-year public history - Stock plunges 25%, worst day in its history.
Monday ==> Lumber fight with Canada could raise home prices (20% tariff on Canadian softwood)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028981742

Those who will suffer: blue collar workers in the Rust Belt and construction workers, with housing prices going up, figure on that jobs market to retract.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
19. If you strictly watch Fox News...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 07:40 PM
Apr 2017

or even worse, Fox Business News, they are promoting the Second Coming of the Savior.

What we hear and know does not pierce the rightwing bubble on cable and the internet.

We really do live in two separate realities.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
23. That is a good point.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:15 PM
Apr 2017

You only need to occasionally tune in to FOX or right-wing radio and see how they are reporting things and then consider that this is the only source of information many of them use. They believe everything else
is fake.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
20. They have been programmed to relish anything that pisses off a Democrat
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 07:44 PM
Apr 2017

They'll go down happy if they think a liberal is going down with them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. He is their weapon against us
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

Liberals, city slickers and most hated of all minorities and gays.

I know for a fact. I am a middle age white guy who drives a truck, has a boat, owns guns, hunt, fish and sometime wear boots. Oh, and I live in the south.

I am surprised the number of times in bars(when the wife works late I tend to eat in the bar section of restaurants...I do not hang out in real bars) someone in my 'group' automatically assumes I voted for Trump. I usually keep quite until they piss me off so much I quietly tip my hand. That is usually about the time they say something like, "yeah, Trump is not doing just what he said, but he really pissing of the liberals and blacks." By no means verbatim but you get the gist.

That's when I tell them I am a Social Democrat and became one after spending months in Europe and having it shown to me that the Republican Party fed me a line of shit for 30 years and that in many ways the Europeans live just as happy and more secure lives than most Americans. Every time I have said something like that they are speechless and look like a pole-axed cow. Wish I could have it on film. And then they always back off fast with a weak attempt at a Parthian shot.

Yeah, they hate us more than they like themselves.

manicraven

(901 posts)
27. I call it "willful" denial. These fools have chosen to ignore facts, evidence, reason...
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:00 PM
Apr 2017

That's why they'll almost never change their minds about their loyalty to this insane, vulgar, ignorant, malignant narcissist.

Response to SHRED (Original post)

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
31. These are people that voted against their own best interest for years
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 10:15 PM
Apr 2017

They deny facts, they will not listen to you when you try and talk to them. It's their way or the highway.

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
44. Yes, spot on!!
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 11:04 AM
Apr 2017

They are filled with spite and hatred. They know Trump is a liar. They know all the conservative media they side with are liars. The only thing that matters to them is "sticking it to those liberals" and chalking up "wins" for their side. It's all very racist, very tribal.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
45. Wait until their first Trump tax bill. They all love money more than Jesus and we know it.
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 11:06 AM
Apr 2017

This tax plan is a huge increase in middle class taxes, Huge!

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
49. The media they consume brainwashes/hypnotizes them. Consequently, they are in a trance don't
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:29 PM
Apr 2017

and don't even know that he lied/lies. If you have ever talked to one, you find out that they live in an alternative universe that does not ever intersect with the one we live in. In the one they live in, he does not lie; his critics lie. I was dismayed when I first realized this when talking to one. They not only have alternative facts but live in an entire alternative universe.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,574 posts)
52. Willfully ignorant
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 12:56 PM
Apr 2017

is my term for them. They KNOW they made a bad choice and will not admit that or the fact he is inept, disinterested and unqualified for the job............

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
58. Ignorant and arrogant about it . Don't forget the superior sense and overbearing attitude that goes
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 02:13 PM
Apr 2017

with the willfulness

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
56. That is what hurts me the most. So, trump is evil, crazy, an imbecile, etc. OK, he is just one man
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 01:53 PM
Apr 2017

but the fact that tens of millions of people supported and voted for him...that is what kills me.

After the Inside Edition tape appeared, I thought that was it. But it is obvious that no, you haven' come a long way, baby.

And mocking the handicapped? I thought everyone would be outraged, but now I think they all thought he was hilarious.

Last November I lost what little faith I still have in humanity. Sure, that are some bright spots here and there, but humans in general suck.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
57. The Trump supporters I know and see on TV
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 02:04 PM
Apr 2017

are nothing but a bunch of rubes from small towns with little education, are serious fuck ups in their personal lives, or either mentally ill or senile.

The problem isn't Trump supporters the problem is the people that didn't vote or voted third party.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
59. There is a difference between supporting Trump...
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 02:17 PM
Apr 2017

...and simply not yet being willing to admit one was wrong. Many supporters who are still answering polls as such may have huge doubts.

100 days was not going to shake many loose.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
61. Don't forget stupid. They're really stupid.
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:04 PM
Apr 2017

Still supporting someone who has blatantly lied to you, over and over, disrespected you and pretty much laughed in your face about it is literally idiotic. I have yet to encounter even one Chump supporter who has a rational, mature mentality. That includes some of my own family.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
64. Yup, the fact that 96% of Trump voters would vote him in again is appalling.
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:20 PM
Apr 2017
http://www.dailywire.com/news/15654/new-poll-shows-96-trump-supporters-would-vote-him-frank-camp

And if the vote was held today, he would also win the popular vote. I am simply astounded at that.

They simply cannot, will not even spend a second considering they may have made a mistake. They block their ears and eyes and personal morals and quickly turn on Fox News or Rush to drown out any facts that might get in the way of that. Being "right", all the time, is their gift from God. They simply cannot be wrong or it would mean that there is no God.

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
68. They're brain dead zombies
Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:51 PM
Apr 2017

Everything is explained in illegal alien terms

Today one attributed toxic fungal infections in NY and NJ hospitals to illegals from China
because they arrive at JFK and (the poster said) there have been outbreaks in Asia

So why no outbreaks in other cities with Chinese on international flights? I mentioned
several cities with large Chinese populations ...

No answer yet.

They have PITD

Paranoid Illogical Thinking Disorder and they get it from the Orange Crush

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