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Who was here first? (Original Post) stevedeshazer Jul 2012 OP
Maybe none of them! Happy 4th to U as well. teddy51 Jul 2012 #1
Going back even further Confusious Jul 2012 #2
Could even be possible that the people who "came first" Scootaloo Jul 2012 #13
one eighth Crow here! panader0 Jul 2012 #3
Hmmm DJ13 Jul 2012 #4
They have that guy on YouTube Confusious Jul 2012 #5
It's always THEM! freshwest Jul 2012 #9
thanks hfojvt Jul 2012 #6
Interdimensional beings! freshwest Jul 2012 #7
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is not native needledriver Jul 2012 #8
See that teeny patch of Choctaw on the Gulf? That's me. nolabear Jul 2012 #10
Asians. progressoid Jul 2012 #11
My wife, who's Asian, is keeps telling me that all Native Americans are descended from Asians. pampango Jul 2012 #20
Yep - That's what recent DNA tests show. progressoid Jul 2012 #27
And this is when the troubles began: Amonester Jul 2012 #12
Yeah, cuz all Native Americans lived in peace and harmony jberryhill Jul 2012 #29
That isn't what I was thinking about "the troubles began" Amonester Jul 2012 #33
Ah! There's my Menominee and Crow! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #14
This is exactly the diagram that needs to be pulled out Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #15
Spore! kentauros Jul 2012 #16
One thing for sure White Folks were not here first! KatChatter Jul 2012 #17
I still do not understand the concept of celebrating stealing a country from a another country HipChick Jul 2012 #18
Me too. stevedeshazer Jul 2012 #19
My poor Penobscot brother... malthaussen Jul 2012 #21
I celebrate Independence Day, but frogmarch Jul 2012 #22
Those were all late comers. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #23
My great-great grandmother on my fathers side was a Potawatomi woman NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #24
What Native Americans and Europeans have in common is cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #25
Them big white fuckers from Prometheus. Iggo Jul 2012 #26
Adam & Eve Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #28
K&R. Overseas Jul 2012 #30
My mother got off the train from Toronto in 1919 to steal jobs from Real Americans. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #31
That is one cool map - I'd actually like to have one of those. apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #32

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
2. Going back even further
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:58 PM
Jul 2012

There were multiple distinct migrations across the Bering sea, so you could say they weren't even the first.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. Could even be possible that the people who "came first"
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:08 AM
Jul 2012

Arrived from the south; some super-early sites in South America have a lot of similarities to Australian Aborigine sites.

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
5. They have that guy on YouTube
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:00 AM
Jul 2012

His hair got kookier every time.

the next one he's going to have it frizzed out and be wearing X-ray specs.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Interdimensional beings!
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:09 AM
Jul 2012


A few native American tribes claim the existance of such creatures.* Jane Goodall said on NPR that there is no proof, but that being a 'romantic' she 'wants to believe.' Since I want to believe too, just because, I found this the best one. The wackier, the better, and the better to understand the Baggers amongst us. They indeed, may believe in several things before breakfast:

One fringe theory, supported by paranormal investigator Jon-Erik Beckjord, theorizes that the lack of hard evidence supporting Bigfoot's existence may be due to the creature being an interdimensional being that slips in and out of dimensions.

*Unfortunately, the picture is disputed, according to Wikipedia's Bigfoot or Sasquatch page, despite the native claims about these guys.

Frame 352 from the Patterson-Gimlin film, alleged by Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin to show a bigfoot, and by some others to show a man in an ape suit.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot#Interdimensional_being

Happy Independence Day! I don't see any space ships hovering overhead, not yet, anyway.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
10. See that teeny patch of Choctaw on the Gulf? That's me.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jul 2012

Or at least a part of me. The rest is immigrant. Irish, like a whole lot of the rest of the South.

Happy Fourth!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
20. My wife, who's Asian, is keeps telling me that all Native Americans are descended from Asians.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

At least until the Europeans got here and started "mixing" the DNA up.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
33. That isn't what I was thinking about "the troubles began"
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jul 2012

I knew it was far from a "Peace & Love" continent long before the strangers sailed and stayed...

Should have written "this is when the destruction of the eco-systems began:" or "the beginning of the end" or such.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
15. This is exactly the diagram that needs to be pulled out
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:38 AM
Jul 2012

whenever some Teabagger starts mouthing off about "taking our country back."

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
18. I still do not understand the concept of celebrating stealing a country from a another country
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:17 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)

from people that it first, and already occupied it.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
21. My poor Penobscot brother...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jul 2012

his people aren't even listed on the map. (Probably considered to fall under the Abnaki)

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
22. I celebrate Independence Day, but
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jul 2012

I cringe at the way the early colonists treated the native Americans.

My 7th great-grandfather Thomas Perley was on the committee that in 1701 bought the deed for the town of Boxford, MA, from three of the grandsons of Masconnomet, sagamore (chief) of the Agawam tribe of the Algonquian People, for two shillings and six pence....oh, and some "vittels and drink.” (See 2nd footnote)
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The name of another distant great-grandfather of mine, John Peabody, appears at the top of the page. (Both Thomas Perley and John Peabody were Salem witch trials jurors. )

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
24. My great-great grandmother on my fathers side was a Potawatomi woman
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jul 2012

Intermarriage between French-Canadian settlers and Native American women was very common in this area.

Don't have any photos but I have been told she was very beautiful.

Don

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
25. What Native Americans and Europeans have in common is
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jul 2012

that both are part of a group that exterminated every other hominid on the planet Earth. Flat out genocide on an unimaginable scale.

I don't hold it against them... against us. It is just what happened.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
28. Adam & Eve
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jul 2012

At least, that's what the Mormons believe, since they say the Garden of Eden was located in Missouri.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
31. My mother got off the train from Toronto in 1919 to steal jobs from Real Americans.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jul 2012

All the way from Leeds in England. She was 9 and started work as kitchen maid at that age.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
32. That is one cool map - I'd actually like to have one of those.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jul 2012

Wonder if you can order one off of Amazon? I love maps like that.

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