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Hey, can you pass the US citizenship test??? (Original Post) a kennedy Jul 2012 OP
pretty easy test hfojvt Jul 2012 #1
Same here. bluedigger Jul 2012 #15
I got an 85%. AJTheMan Jul 2012 #2
Missed four but passed. It should have only been three. brewens Jul 2012 #3
I passed - 85/100! Yay! Where do I get my gold star?????? TheDebbieDee Jul 2012 #4
Eh...two wrong. Pilotguy Jul 2012 #5
4 must be ChazII Jul 2012 #6
I was 5 for 5 when it stopped working. Honestly though... joshcryer Jul 2012 #7
One division of my company can krispos42 Jul 2012 #8
funny Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #30
"Name two states that border Canada" krispos42 Jul 2012 #43
It's all...I would have never thought Idaho. good one Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #49
Or Ohio, for that matter... it's a water border. krispos42 Jul 2012 #55
100% Scootaloo Jul 2012 #9
Because it doesn't. bluedigger Jul 2012 #13
Well, thank goodness! Scootaloo Jul 2012 #16
Unless new states enter the union, right? sakabatou Jul 2012 #17
nope dsc Jul 2012 #19
So the numbers per state get reshuffled? sakabatou Jul 2012 #46
yep dsc Jul 2012 #47
That I know about with today's country sakabatou Jul 2012 #48
Not so much Spider Jerusalem Jul 2012 #20
yeah we do have too few members dsc Jul 2012 #22
Too few members is right and then there is the Senate in which California JDPriestly Jul 2012 #23
well sadly that will never change dsc Jul 2012 #24
why can't it change by amendment? that's interesting...I don't know what can be changed Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #31
The Senate can't be changed because the Constitution says that no state can have its Senate dsc Jul 2012 #38
California is big enough to divide into two states. They we would have four senators. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #44
That is the point of the Senate sarisataka Jul 2012 #53
But, as it is, individual voters in California have far too little say in our government. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #56
Just to add to what dsc correctly said... bluedigger Jul 2012 #21
haha...Hey, the new members could be "online voter" and skype their speeches. When Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #39
That would inconvenience the lobbyists. bluedigger Jul 2012 #40
I took it the other time it was posted dsc Jul 2012 #10
Who's keeping score? bluedigger Jul 2012 #11
I did not enter my name at first hfojvt Jul 2012 #18
I like that. It's like when someone says to you "Say you are sorry." and you say Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #32
Missed 2 nadine_mn Jul 2012 #12
18 out of 20 sakabatou Jul 2012 #14
I'm pleased to announce that "Willard Romney" got a 90. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2012 #25
100% RandySF Jul 2012 #26
I missed one. alphafemale Jul 2012 #27
I failed it, but I don't want US citizenship anyway... Violet_Crumble Jul 2012 #28
1 wrong. # of Amendments. All you 100% knew that? #impressed. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #29
Me, also. n/t UTUSN Jul 2012 #34
Super easy test. 100% 1monster Jul 2012 #33
100% Woody Woodpecker Jul 2012 #35
I got one wrong. boxman15 Jul 2012 #36
1 wrong whistler162 Jul 2012 #37
20/20 jhasp Jul 2012 #41
I did, for real. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42
I am not even going to try. RebelOne Jul 2012 #45
I had to take the test to become a citizen. vaberella Jul 2012 #50
100% but I admit one of them was a guess Warpy Jul 2012 #51
20 out of 20 n/t TheFarseer Jul 2012 #52
I got them all but I guessed Vermont on the one question. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #54
Easily. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #57
19/20. Couldn't remember if it was Vermont or NH hifiguy Jul 2012 #58

bluedigger

(17,433 posts)
15. Same here.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:32 AM
Jul 2012

That and the current Chief Justice were the only questions that were changeable, I think.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
3. Missed four but passed. It should have only been three.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:28 AM
Jul 2012

I didn't read one closely enough. I thought it asked who was President during WWII instead of WWI. It even occurred to me that Truman also was President but wasn't listed. How may amendments and how many members of the House tripped me up. I did know the House was one of two possibilities but guessed wrong. Same with the one that asked which of four states was not an original colony. Two I was not positive about and guessed wrong again.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
4. I passed - 85/100! Yay! Where do I get my gold star??????
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:40 AM
Jul 2012

I'm more citizeny than you are..........

ETA:

I missed the President during WWI - I said it was Teddy Roosevelt.

I missed which is not a federal power - I said printing money

I missed year constitution written - I said 1774

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
7. I was 5 for 5 when it stopped working. Honestly though...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:01 AM
Jul 2012

...since the citizenship exam is oral I bet it'd be a lot harder.

The multiple choices kind of gave it away, you could use elimination.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
8. One division of my company can
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jul 2012

There's a Vietnamese guy there trying to get his citizenship. After he failed a written test, he played the damn CD for hours a day on the boom box. EVERYBODY can pass the damn test in their sleep!

Pity he failed the language portion, but he only speaks English at work, and his accent is so heavy and his vocabulary is limited o that he never advances!

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
43. "Name two states that border Canada"
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jul 2012
  • Washington
  • Idaho
  • Montana
  • North Dakota
  • Minnesota
  • Wisconsin
  • Michigan
  • Ohio
  • Pennsylvania
  • New York
  • Vermont
  • New Hampshire
  • Maine


 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. 100%
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jul 2012

Though I did hover over "How many members in the House of Representatives" thing... There was no Depends on census results! answer.

bluedigger

(17,433 posts)
13. Because it doesn't.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:29 AM
Jul 2012

The number is fixed - the Census is used to divvy them up (amongst other things).

dsc

(53,387 posts)
19. nope
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012

that would be the Senate. The current size of the house was set in the early 1900's and we added at least two states since then and I think it was four. In any case, 435 voting members with one non voting member for each of DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Somoa, and one other territory whose name escapes me right now.

dsc

(53,387 posts)
47. yep
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

that is why for example Ohio and New York lost two seats each in the latest census.

sakabatou

(46,123 posts)
48. That I know about with today's country
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jul 2012

And it will reshuffle if we ever gain new territory/states?

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
20. Not so much
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012

the number was set at 435 by the Apportionment Act of 1911, which apportioned 433 representatives for the current states of the Union and one additional each for Arizona and New Mexico (which became states in 1912). When Alaska and Hawaii became states each got one representative in addition to the 435 then seated in the House to make the number 437 until reapportionment after the 1960 census returned the total to 435.

435 seems somewhat low for a country of over 300 million people; the UK has at present 646 parliamentary constituencies with a fifth the population, so one member of parliament for, roughly, every hundred thousand people vs one representative for every seven hundred thousand.

dsc

(53,387 posts)
22. yeah we do have too few members
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:52 AM
Jul 2012

only India among Democracies have larger districts and they have over a billion people meaning they would have to have around 1600 people in their legislature to match our size districts. I think having an 801 member body would be sufficient. That would reduce us to about 1 rep to 450,000

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. Too few members is right and then there is the Senate in which California
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jul 2012

and other very populous states are way out-represented by tiny states like Rhode Island and Wyoming. It's scandalous. Californians are virtually disenfranchised in so far as the Senate is concerned. That skews the political scene in the entire country because two big liberal states, New York and California, are vastly underrepresented while many of the conservative states with tiny populations are relatively over-represented.

dsc

(53,387 posts)
24. well sadly that will never change
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:11 AM
Jul 2012

it can't even change by constitutional amendment. Only if every state that is currently over represented would agree to give up that over representation can it change. Currently any state that has population under 6 million or so is over represented in the Senate, that would be about 35 or so states. On edit it would be 33. 17 states are under represented while 33 are over represented.

http://exploredia.com/population-of-us-states-2011/

The cutoff point is about 6.1 million making Tennessee the smallest state that gets screwed by the Senate and Missouri the largest state which is a beneficiary. In the current Senate we have 19 seats in the over represented part with 15 GOP seats no independents. Meaning we must have 32 seats in the over represented part with 32 GOP seats and 2 independents in the over represented part.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. why can't it change by amendment? that's interesting...I don't know what can be changed
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:24 AM
Jul 2012

by amendment, and what can not.

But, it does strike me that it would be a great way to diffuse all the partisanship, if there were more
people representing smaller groups

dsc

(53,387 posts)
38. The Senate can't be changed because the Constitution says that no state can have its Senate
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

representation reduced without its consent. Thus even by amendment the Senate can't be changed.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. California is big enough to divide into two states. They we would have four senators.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jul 2012

I haven't heard anyone seriously suggest it, but it might resolve the problem that we are under-represented in the Senate.

sarisataka

(22,665 posts)
53. That is the point of the Senate
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jul 2012

It places all of the states on equal footing. California has 2, Wyoming has 2.

The House accounts for population, where California has 53 Rep., equaling Wyoming, Vermont, North Dakota, Alaska, South Dakota, Delaware, Montana (all 1 each), Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maine, Hawaii, Idaho (all 2 each), Nebraska, West Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah (All 3 each), Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi (all 4 each) Iowa and Connecticut (5 each) combined. Oklahoma and Oregon also have 5 Reps each.

So in the HoR It would take 23 of the smallest states to match California's vote.

If we were unicameral and based strictly on population, 9 states (California, Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Georgia) could dictate to the other 41 as they have 50.26% of the population.

It may not be a perfect system but it seems to insure the party not in power has some say. I would shudder to think if that few states all went 'red' how the country would look after four years.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. But, as it is, individual voters in California have far too little say in our government.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jul 2012

Actually, we would have more blue senators if California had say at least 4 rather than just 2.

This system is extremely unfair to California voters.

bluedigger

(17,433 posts)
21. Just to add to what dsc correctly said...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:50 AM
Jul 2012

I think they have a space issue - they don't want to build an addition to the Capitol...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. haha...Hey, the new members could be "online voter" and skype their speeches. When
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jul 2012

a "in-the-Capitol" member got defeated or quit, then an online voter gets to move in the building. :&gt

dsc

(53,387 posts)
10. I took it the other time it was posted
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jul 2012

I ended up missing two, but it should have been one, my answer slipped on one question.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
18. I did not enter my name at first
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:42 AM
Jul 2012

then the computer said "please enter your name in the box"

so in the box I wrote

"your name"

just like I was asked to.


There was a Sunday comic strip where one of the characters is taking a test and reads the first question which says "name".

And he thinks to himself. "Name? Name what? Name who?" over several panels.

Then in the next panel, he thinks. "oh, my name, sheesh, get a grip Schuyler."

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
32. I like that. It's like when someone says to you "Say you are sorry." and you say
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:26 AM
Jul 2012

"You are sorry"

Buns_of_Fire

(19,151 posts)
25. I'm pleased to announce that "Willard Romney" got a 90.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:55 AM
Jul 2012

What? You don't think I'd enter my REAL name on one of these things, do you?

You know... Just in case...

If it weren't almost three in the morning and ol' Willard didn't have a snootful, he might have gotten 95 or 100.

Violet_Crumble

(36,385 posts)
28. I failed it, but I don't want US citizenship anyway...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:11 AM
Jul 2012

I didn't do too bad. I got 12 right and I only knew some of the ones I got right coz I've read the answers here at DU...

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
35. 100%
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jul 2012

and I didn't even have to go Wiki any of them up.

Too easy.

Give me a harder challenge.

A real test, maybe?

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
36. I got one wrong.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jul 2012

I read "Who was president during World War I?" as "Who was president during World War II?" I picked FDR instead of Wilson.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
37. 1 wrong
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

I misread the one about what wasn't in the Declaration of Independence as what wasn't in the Constitution and didn't chose the right to arm bears!

jhasp

(101 posts)
41. 20/20
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jul 2012

I had to think about the state not in the original 13. Delaware was first and I knew New York was in there.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
45. I am not even going to try.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jul 2012

My next-door neighbor was from Russia and I saw the test she was going to have to take for citizenship, and there was no way I could pass. It has been many years since I have been in school.

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
50. I had to take the test to become a citizen.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jul 2012

A few of those questions are not normally on the test. Further more, they are NOT multiple choice. You have to know the answers by heart. If I remember correctly the most difficult question on the test I had was to name 13 original signatures on the Declaration of Independence.

I don't know anyone who can name 13 of them.

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