Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:21 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

Jay Rosen:The everyday lingo of news distorts the reality of Trump

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Jay Rosen:The everyday lingo of news distorts the reality of Trump (Original post)	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	OP
13/ As @joshtpm has written: "He is not only ignorant but clearly unaware of his level of ignorance.	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	#1
+1000	dchill	Apr 2017	#3
With no details /no evidence of planning/deliberation, u can't call page of bullets a tax plan..	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	#2
I agree..	mountain grammy	Apr 2017	#4
100% correct.	Golden Raisin	Apr 2017	#9
Kasparov - need strategy change	sharedvalues	Apr 2017	#5
+++ agree	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	#7
Trump is like	flying rabbit	Apr 2017	#10
So, true. LOL	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	#11
The only people who really seem to be able to cope	duncang	Apr 2017	#6
+ agree on the weak minded characteristic of Dumpty-nothing to do with flexibility	iluvtennis	Apr 2017	#8
K&R	Solly Mack	May 2017	#12
This might be the most important post all month	sharedvalues	May 2017	#13

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:22 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

1. 13/ As @joshtpm has written: "He is not only ignorant but clearly unaware of his level of ignorance.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:28 PM

dchill (26,233 posts)

3. +1000

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:24 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

2. With no details /no evidence of planning/deliberation, u can't call page of bullets a tax plan..

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:31 PM

mountain grammy (22,495 posts)

4. I agree..

Every day that goes by, he is more and more normalized by our "news" media.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 09:01 PM

Golden Raisin (4,149 posts)

9. 100% correct.

Instead of whoopin' it up and schmoozing with each other at the Correspondents' Dinner they should all be pushing back relentlessly against Trump and not giving him one inch of normalization.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:32 PM

sharedvalues (6,916 posts)

5. Kasparov - need strategy change

Masha Gessen building on Kasparov

Journalists needed to realize Trump wasn’t playing chess…

I'm going to borrow a metaphor from Garry Kasparov, the chess champion, who when he first quit chess and went into politics, he was explaining to people that going up against Putin was like playing chess against somebody who keeps knocking the figures off the board. It's like he's not playing chess.

I think that what the papers failed to do was write the big story of the fact that Donald Trump wasn't playing chess. It's like the endless fact checking was a little bit like reporting on a chess match by saying, "Okay, well, she opened E2 to E4 and he knocked all the figures off the chess board. He knocked the bishop off the chess board and he knocked the knight off the chess board." Well, just say it! Just say he was not playing chess!

I think that it would have been a story about how Donald Trump was running for autocrat.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:51 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

7. +++ agree

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 09:01 PM

flying rabbit (3,781 posts)

10. Trump is like

playing chess with a pigeon — He knocks the pieces over, craps all over the board, and struts around like he's won.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 11:57 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

11. So, true. LOL

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:37 PM

duncang (1,907 posts)

6. The only people who really seem to be able to cope

Are the comedians and satirist in describing the thing that is in the WH now. On Jay Rosen's twitter page from about number 6-10 he talks about dipshit reacts. Personally I don't think most of the time he actually reacts. He parrots what he hears. Some of the lashing out is him reacting, but as mentioned other places it seems to be the last person he talked to has the most influence. That is being nothing more then a mimic or parrot. Some say he has flexibility or doesn't hold strong preconceived notions but to me that is just being weak minded.

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Sun Apr 30, 2017, 08:53 PM

iluvtennis (14,667 posts)

8. + agree on the weak minded characteristic of Dumpty-nothing to do with flexibility

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Mon May 1, 2017, 03:00 AM

Solly Mack (81,356 posts)

12. K&R

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Mon May 1, 2017, 05:57 PM

sharedvalues (6,916 posts)

13. This might be the most important post all month

This message is so important - the media is key and that's why Trump is going after them.

We need smart journalists to tell the truth, not repeat his words or find ways to tell both sides and normalize this would be despot.

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