Someone once gave this reason for the Civil War

[edhopper]

I don't know if Trump ever heard it?

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.

[SchrodingersCatbox]

1. Most people don't know

Lincoln was a Republican

[brush]

2. People know. They also know the Republican Party then was the reformist party. Now the repugs,

after the dixiecrats joined them in 1964, are the party of racists.

Go sell that bs somewhere else.

[SchrodingersCatbox]

4. Really? Wow guess you're

Sarcasm impaired.

I was quoting our "president". GIYF

[brush]

7. And we're supposed to know that without your using the sarcasm gif?

Include that next time, especially with your low post count.

[SchrodingersCatbox]

8. Ok, not sarcasm impaired

Just a dick. Cool.

*plonk*

[brush]

9. Still with the insults, as if you have a reason to insult anyone.

Do you need the instuctions for this?

[DefenseLawyer]

13. It's none of my business

But you seemed to be the one trying to pick a fight here. Why not just acknowledge (to yourself, not us) that you missed the reference and move on? I actually think it was more mocking than sarcastic; but since there isn't a mocking symbol, please, everyone, for the love of God, proceed with mocking Donald Trump at your own risk.

[brush]

14. So you don't think the sarcasm gif was would've helped denote sarcasm? Everyone doesn't read every..

thing that comes out.

Which is one reason why there is a sarcasm gif.

Less informed people make that claim all the time about Lincoln and the Republican party.

[cwydro]

15. Oh leave it.

Sarcasm gif wasn't needed.

You're not usually like this, so take a deep breath and don't insult people based on their post count. That is so annoying; were you not once a poster with a low post count?

[brush]

16. It was to me. I didn't read whatever he/she was referencing and don't appreciate the snark

[cwydro]

17. Sheesh, if I had a buck for every insult I've received here...

I agree; insults are unnecessary. But we should leave post counts out of it. Criticizing someone for post count is just silly.

[brush]

19. You're probably right on the low post count, but there are a lot of questionble posters on nowadays

[Ilsa]

18. Quotes would have helped if you aren't using the sarcasm gif.

Goid post, though, and welcome to du.

[SchrodingersCatbox]

20. Thanks

It's really a welcome back, I was a member years ago, but kind of drifted away not long after the 2008 election.

Got burned out in general, some life stuff, and decided that spending hours at my computer in my off time, after spending all day with computers at work wasn't good for my mental and emotional health. Came back after the nightmare in November, and couldn't retrieve the old account.

[Ilsa]

21. I didn't post as much after 2008. Didn't feel the need

for emotional-political support. It was nice to sit back and feel like the nation was in capable, sane hands again. Was active a bit during election cycle, but bitterness in Bernie vs Hillary fights wore me down.

Sadly, I suspect DU's greatest gatherings will be in times of being the minority in DC.

[SchrodingersCatbox]

22. DU can be a bit of

Chicken Soup for the Progressive Soul

[BSdetect]

3. Lincoln may have nicked an idea from Shakespeare?

Old Man in MacBeth:

Threescore and ten I can remember well:
Within the volume of which time I have seen
Hours dreadful and things strange; but this sore night
Hath trifled former knowings.

[ProudLib72]

5. Great rhetoricians lift from other great rhetoricians

Here is an article from William Safire about reading the Gettysburg Address to commemorate the first anniversary of the WTC:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/09/opinion/a-spirit-reborn.html

There is a lot of good rhetorical analysis in there.

[Leith]

6. Not Quite Getting It...

A speech given when the war had been going on for more than 2 years is what caused the war?

[edhopper]

10. Lincoln knew the war was fought

to defend the idea that ALL men are created equal.

So during the Civil War Lincoln new why, unlike Trump over 150 years later.

[KingCharlemagne]

23. To even talk about Lincoln and Trump in the same sentence makes me want to

[mcar]

11. Weak. Sad.

[edhopper]

12. Loser in Chief