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Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:16 PM May 2017

House GOPer: Move To Another State If You Have A Pre-Existing Condition

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-goper-move-to-another-state-if-you-have-a-pre-existing-condition

Talking Points Memo:
By Alice Ollstein, May 2, 2017, 12:17 pm ET
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Other rank-and-file lawmakers have been more blunt.

“People can go to the state that they want to live in,” Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-NC) told reporters Tuesday morning when asked if people with pre-existing conditions could be charged much more under the American Health Care Act.

“States have all kinds of different policies and there are disparities among states for many things: driving restrictions, alcohol, whatever,” he continued. “We’re putting choices back in the hands of the states. That’s what Jeffersonian democracy provides for.”

Pittenger acknowledged that under an amendment to the bill rolled out in April to win over the support of hardline conservatives, states can apply for waivers to Obamacare’s community rating rule, which limits how much insurance companies can charge people with pre-existing conditions. With no limit set in the bill for what insurers could charge, many patient advocacy groups say they’re afraid millions of people could be priced out of health insurance entirely. States could also seek waivers to Obamacare’s essential health benefits rule, allowing insurers to sell bare bones plans that don’t cover things like prescription medicine, emergency room visits, or maternity care.

“This is federalism,” he said. “This brings the choices back to the American people and back to the states.”
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House GOPer: Move To Another State If You Have A Pre-Existing Condition (Original Post) Stuart G May 2017 OP
Oh my god! JustAnotherGen May 2017 #1
Reagan said it: Americans can vote with their feet. WinkyDink May 2017 #2
across state lines KT2000 May 2017 #3
I agree many GOPers have lost parts of their brains...but, Stuart G May 2017 #4
Anytime I hear 'States Rights' I head for zee hills superpatriotman May 2017 #5
And then add more seats to the House of Representatives More_Cowbell May 2017 #6
So that's how they're thinking on planning on maintaining a majority. haele May 2017 #7

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Oh my god!
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:18 PM
May 2017

He wants pregnant women to 'move' for prenatal care.

No, that's not in the article.

But in the days pre ACA it was considered one - and that's what needs to be pointed out.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
3. across state lines
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:22 PM
May 2017

means the insurance companies will not have to abide by state laws - or rather the state with the weakest laws.

It is now a fact that the members of the GOP are missing parts of their brains.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
4. I agree many GOPers have lost parts of their brains...but,
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:26 PM
May 2017
,some, just some have said they will not vote for this bill. Perhaps, those who are saying this, and will vote against this s**t bill, still have a whole brain. We will see how this works out, but enough in the GOP are against this s**t bill to keep it from getting out of the House of Representatives...

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
5. Anytime I hear 'States Rights' I head for zee hills
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:29 PM
May 2017

I'll be sure to spend time or money in your state from now until the end of time, Bob.

haele

(12,653 posts)
7. So that's how they're thinking on planning on maintaining a majority.
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:03 PM
May 2017

Get rid of half the population in their hard-core red states, and strain the economy and the social compacts of the blue states by forcing more stressed-out, petulantly defensive semi-conservatives to settle in those states just to keep families healthy for a decade or so more before hard-right idiotology finally takes over.

"Just move". Right. Like the Oakies "just moved", or migrant workers travelled from town to town looking for odd jobs if there wasn't any agricultural work.

Problem is, most people - especially younger, working aged people - are too owned by their stuff.

When I was growing up, the entire furnishings for our household for four could fit in the back and on the roof-rack of a standard station wagon.
Of course, station wagons, like cars were huge in those days and seat belts were not exactly mandatory so we could all fit in the front seat if necessary; we also had a full sized 1/ton bumper rack, and the roof rack was piled too high to go on the interstate at speed, but Mom and Dad were still able to put chairs, a futon-style platform sofa, three mattresses and box springs, two dressers, and the dining room table up on the roof rack by breaking down what furniture they could sort of like an Ikea flat-pack at least over the five moves I could remember. Sure, Dad would have to replace the springs and work on the axels afterwards, but we could still go across the state of California looking for affordable places to live while Mom and Dad found work.
No U-Haul was necessary until Dad started teaching - finally - and we had a very large collection of books along with the TV, work desk, and stereo set to move when he decided to leave California due to Reagan's evisceration of the State educational budget and found an equivalent job in Seattle.

Nowadays, I can't even get my stepdaughter and her husband to move their stuff from our house into their crappy little apartment, between the electronics, excess clothes, baby stuff, four moving boxes of photo books and memorabilia, and all the "collectable" crap they've gotten that is "just too much of an investment" to get rid of. It would take renting a large U-haul and storage room as transitional staging. Or at least seven trips in their little family car. with just the driver. They can't afford to move, not even for a good-paying job, the way they live now.

Yes, I'm just as guilty in my own way. I've got 26 copier paper boxes of books I haven't read in about 10 years and six boxes of craft supplies still waiting to be unboxed and gone through as soon as I get shelves and a craft area set up. But, my clothes and personal grooming can still fit in a (large) suitcase and duffle, and if I had to pack the household up for a quick job transfer, everything we and our cats would need for survival in relative comfort somewhere else could fit in the back of our car, a smallish towable U-Haul trailer and on the roof-rack - including all our "big" furniture and tools.

Just not the 26 boxes of books.

Commentary over.

In conclusion, it would need to be pointed out to Representative Pit-for-brains; if your constituent can't afford health insurance for his or her family, s/he can't afford to move to a state where health insurance can be affordable.

Haele



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