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Tue May 2, 2017, 03:36 PM

 

Should there be a test given candidates running for President?

Perhaps given before the first debate they participate in on TV?

Like the GRE or SATs?

Unfortunately, I'd imagine even Bush could have passed one.

But TRUMP? No way! I think it would have saved us!!!

Or get them in a tournament with Alex Trebek -- Would love to see Trump on Jeopardy! "American History for $20, Alex" "Sorry, Donald, the war between the states was North vs. South, not East vs. SOUTHWEST."

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Reply Should there be a test given candidates running for President? (Original post)
bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 OP
Bleacher Creature May 2017 #1
Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #3
crosinski May 2017 #6
Bleacher Creature May 2017 #9
LanternWaste May 2017 #7
Bleacher Creature May 2017 #8
frazzled May 2017 #2
JoeStuckInOH May 2017 #4
WePurrsevere May 2017 #5
Thor_MN May 2017 #10
2naSalit May 2017 #11
crazycatlady May 2017 #12
NobodyHere May 2017 #13
brooklynite May 2017 #15
NobodyHere May 2017 #16
brooklynite May 2017 #18
brooklynite May 2017 #14
crazycatlady May 2017 #20
Dalai_1 May 2017 #17
WinkyDink May 2017 #19
bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #21

Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:39 PM

1. No, nor should there be one for voting.

Anytime something like that happens, it inevitably leads to discrimination.

What needs to change in voter education and engagement. I'm not sure how best to do that, but certainly making civics class a high school requirement is a good start.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:44 PM

3. Exactly!!! n/t

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:49 PM

6. Well then, how about we require that presidential candidates take civics lessons too.

Because I think that would have made me feel better about some of the jackasses that have been elected in my lifetime.

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Response to crosinski (Reply #6)

Tue May 2, 2017, 04:22 PM

9. Fine with me.

Although no amount of civics training is like to sink in with the moron currently holding office.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)

Tue May 2, 2017, 04:04 PM

7. What then is the precise and relevant difference between that and...

"Anytime something like that happens, it inevitably leads to discrimination..."

What then is the precise and relevant difference between that and voting predicated on arbitrary age requirements? Or is some discrimination valid while other, not?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #7)

Tue May 2, 2017, 04:20 PM

8. An age limit may be arbitrary, but it's objective.

And most important, there's no way it can be manipulated to exclude certain protected classes (other than young people).

Just look at some of the issues people have brought up with the SAT where, in many cases, essay questions included cultural references that provided an unfair advantage to the people who understood them.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:42 PM

2. No test needed: it was blatantly obvious that he was ignorant and nuts during the campaign.

People just chose to ignore it (or they're stupid themselves, or they thought he would change).

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:44 PM

4. The constitution outlines the requirements of running for presidental office.

 

It would likely take a full blown constitutional amendment to make declared candidates participate in a binding assessment like you are speaking of.

It could be done, likely, at the primary level because that is a caucus/party thing and not an actual government office thing.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 03:44 PM

5. 'Testing' is the job of a properly functioning free press...

It would help a lot if we had one still instead of what they've become.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 04:28 PM

10. I'm thinking Trump couldn't pass a GED test.

 

He doesn't have the intelligence of an average high school student.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #10)

Tue May 2, 2017, 06:59 PM

11. That seems brutally apparent....nt

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:36 PM

12. US citizenship test

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:44 PM

13. I would love to have passing the citizen test as a requirement to vote

 

Unfortunately someone would probably use it to unfairly discriminate.

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #13)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:48 PM

15. Do you imagine most Democrats could pass the test?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:53 PM

16. I have no idea

 

to be honest with you.

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #16)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:59 PM

18. I started out in politics as a Ward Committeeman...

100% of my voters were Ivy League students.

With the exception of President, I could have told them to vote for anyone and most would have followed my advice.

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:47 PM

14. Trump got into the University of Pennsylvania...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Tue May 2, 2017, 09:10 PM

20. W got into Yale

I am not sure Trump is a legacy admission to UPenn or not (all of his kids that are old enough went there, I'm sure they are).

(Note-- I'm not Ivy League material and haven't been anywhere near a campus).

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 08:54 PM

17. The MMPI (Minnesota Multiple Personality Test)

Would be an excellent choice. It gives a diagnosis and result also of The test shows whether a person lies on the test.
The WAIS gives an IQ..
Weschler Adult Intelligent Scale

Many HR departments use this as part of their hiring diagnostics

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 09:03 PM

19. I think we saw and heard sufficient all last summer and autumn, don't you?

 

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Response to bagelsforbreakfast (Original post)

Tue May 2, 2017, 09:19 PM

21. about his getting into Penn...

 

Found this:

Trump didn't even get in when he applied initially to Penn. He then spent his first two college years at Fordham. After his sophomore year, his brother Fred intervened for him with a friend of Fred's who was an admissions officer at UPenn. Trump was then (surprise, surprise!) accepted as a transfer student for his junior and senior years.

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