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applegrove

(118,430 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:22 PM May 2017

Civil Rights Groups Are Ready To Sue Trump If He Signs A Broad Religious Freedom Order

by Dominic Holden at Buzzfeed

https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/religious-freedom-order-possible-lawsuits?utm_term=.sjYy9z0wzz#.fq4dQ8n588

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wo prominent civil rights groups told BuzzFeed News on Tuesday they will immediately sue the Trump administration if the president signs a broad executive order on religious freedom that targets LGBT people for discrimination.

Rumors have circulated this week that Trump will sign an order on Thursday — Politico, citing two senior administration officials, reported that is still the plan — that protects those with a religious objection to same-sex marriage, transgender people, and reproductive choices.

A draft order with that language had circulated in January and early February, but the White House still has not released a final draft or officially confirmed one is forthcoming.

But depending on how a final order is worded, legal groups say they are prepared to try blocking it in federal courts on constitutional grounds, thereby hoping to hand Trump another high-profile defeat like those has faced so far with his travel bans.


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Civil Rights Groups Are Ready To Sue Trump If He Signs A Broad Religious Freedom Order (Original Post) applegrove May 2017 OP
They should sue while they still can, legally and while there are still some Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
if i read the EO correctly...... freddyvh May 2017 #2
The notion that those with a religious objection J_William_Ryan May 2017 #3
Hard to see the Trump administration being careful enough in their drafting gratuitous May 2017 #4

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
1. They should sue while they still can, legally and while there are still some
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:32 PM
May 2017

honest judges around.

What people dont get when they argue about voting democratic is if they have time, the GOP will eliminate all judges who do the right thing.

I dont think people understand that yet.

 

freddyvh

(276 posts)
2. if i read the EO correctly......
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:43 PM
May 2017

it would back up doctors and EMTs who don't perform life saving measures on someone if they are or are suspected of being gay

J_William_Ryan

(1,746 posts)
3. The notion that those with a religious objection
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

to same-sex marriage, transgender people, and reproductive choices are in need of ‘protection’ is as ignorant as it is idiotic.

Those hostile to the equal protection rights of gay and transgender Americans and the privacy rights of women are at liberty to practice their bigotry and hatred with impunity.

Indeed, necessary, proper, and Constitutional regulatory policy – such as public accommodations laws that prohibit businesses from discriminating against gay Americans – in no manner adversely affects the religious liberty of those hostile to gay and transgender Americans.

The courts have consistently held that religious believes are not an ‘excuse’ to disobey just and proper laws; and that requiring citizens to follow just and proper laws perceived by theists to ‘violate’ their religious dogma is does not violate the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Hard to see the Trump administration being careful enough in their drafting
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:00 PM
May 2017

These nitwits can't write executive orders to save their sorry asses. Considering how tough it would be to thread that civil rights needle, I'm guessing that any executive order is going to have to settle for being unconstitutional on its face. It will give President Trump another excuse to whine about how hard presidentin' is, so we'll have that.

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