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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:28 PM May 2017

GAH!!! Pence just said we're moving the Embassy to Jerusalem

I absolutely am not posting this to start a debate on the pro's and con's of that. Different people can have different views.

That's not what this is about.

The stated position of the United States is that our Embassy is and will remain at Tel Aviv.

The VICE PRESIDENT CANNOT GO AROUND CHANGING THAT

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GAH!!! Pence just said we're moving the Embassy to Jerusalem (Original Post) Recursion May 2017 OP
War CupcakeQueen May 2017 #1
That's what trump always said but is it more than that ? JI7 May 2017 #2
He's just trying to divert attention away from Trumpcare and the vote. applegrove May 2017 #3
Playing to his christianist base. madamesilverspurs May 2017 #4
Why is this important to them? smirkymonkey May 2017 #5
They think it will start End Times (nt) Recursion May 2017 #8
Here you go. Sorry that it's from CNN... VOX May 2017 #12
Thank you. smirkymonkey May 2017 #14
and they 'all' have said it, from time to time, elleng May 2017 #6
"The stated position of the United States"...etc- that's not, technically, correct. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #7
The Generals need to rein this in. USA is under a malicious Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #9
A good chunk of the military is "christianized"... VOX May 2017 #11
Perhaps you've forgotten the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995. grossproffit May 2017 #10
Oh my! Did He Go To Jared before doing this? elfin May 2017 #13

JI7

(89,247 posts)
2. That's what trump always said but is it more than that ?
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:32 PM
May 2017

Do they have an actual plan and timeline for it ?

We hadn't heard about it in a while and i thought it was because muslim business people told him it would hurt his business interests in certain areas.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
3. He's just trying to divert attention away from Trumpcare and the vote.
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:34 PM
May 2017

Under the cloak of darkness is the only way that will pass. Don't them cloak.

Later: Michael Jackson's spiritual advisor and rabbi met with Bannon today. CNN. What could possibly go wrong?

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
4. Playing to his christianist base.
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:35 PM
May 2017

Damned shame, it's christianists like Pence that give people of genuine faith a bad name.


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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Why is this important to them?
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:36 PM
May 2017

I suppose I could do some research, but I am not well versed enough in the politics of this move so it would be great if someone could explain for me.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
12. Here you go. Sorry that it's from CNN...
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:56 PM
May 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/24/middleeast/donald-trump-us-embassy-israel-explainer/

Why moving the US embassy to Jerusalem is so controversial

If the United States moved the embassy to Jerusalem, it would mean that the US effectively recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That would overturn 70 years of international consensus, and, many argue, would effectively signal the end of moves to achieve peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Thank you.
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:20 PM
May 2017

That was very helpful and straightforward. Sounds to me like it would be a pretty stupid move and only increase terrorism in the US and on US interests in other countries.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. "The stated position of the United States"...etc- that's not, technically, correct.
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:39 PM
May 2017

Actually, since 1995 the law has been to move the thing to Jerusalem, and it has only been through a bi-annual waiver from the executive branch that it has been suspended on an incremental basis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act


Like you, not looking to debate the pros or cons or wisdom of the actual position, but as far as "stated position of the United States" it has really been that the embassy belongs in Jerusalem, at least according to Congress.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
9. The Generals need to rein this in. USA is under a malicious
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:40 PM
May 2017

Government who are increasingly desperate to distract from RussiaGate. Pence is in on it. Most of the admin. is in on it.

They don't give a single shit about the population.

Fucking sociopaths.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. A good chunk of the military is "christianized"...
Tue May 2, 2017, 08:48 PM
May 2017

It might be hard to find a member of the top brass who's willing to put a career on the line.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
13. Oh my! Did He Go To Jared before doing this?
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:10 PM
May 2017

After all, the Mid East is on Jared's to do list not Pence's.

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