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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 07:39 PM May 2017

Why are the Republicans so determined to destroy the ACA ?

Other than the obvious---to destroy Obama's signature achievement.

When I read all the convoluted reasons people claim to have voted for Trump and the R congress members, it seems to me to be something much bigger, as I've read many threads here that describe how nice and solid these people are. It's just down right confusing to me.

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Why are the Republicans so determined to destroy the ACA ? (Original Post) jaysunb May 2017 OP
Doesn't this bill kill Medicaid as we know it as well? MattP May 2017 #1
Because it's named after that Kenyan usurper. Odoreida May 2017 #2
No, It Isn't Leith May 2017 #8
Yes it is. Odoreida May 2017 #36
They want to ruin Obama's legacy. I'm sure his approval ratings upset them greatly... Frustratedlady May 2017 #3
This. GallopingGhost May 2017 #6
Follow the money. It is the stuff of dreams for the scumbags like the Kochs PA Democrat May 2017 #4
This is the reason Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #5
It's also a FU to President Obama.. it's a twofer Cha May 2017 #22
$$$$$$$$$$$. WinkyDink May 2017 #7
This. erinlough May 2017 #20
Yup. A trillion of 'em. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #25
The AHCA is not a ACA repeal bill. It's a tax cut for the wealthy paid in part by gutting the ACA. briv1016 May 2017 #9
In a nutshell, they want to take money from the poor and give it to the rich dalton99a May 2017 #10
It's 90% about a tax cut for wealthy donors flamingdem May 2017 #11
Because us has Obama attached to it. That's it JDC May 2017 #12
two words: BLACK MAN Skittles May 2017 #13
it is mainly about obama. JI7 May 2017 #14
They don't believe in spending one penny to help another person C_U_L8R May 2017 #15
Menage a Trois: Tax Cut--Obama Legacy--Russian Pharmaceuticals/ AlfaGroup $$ promised as MedusaX May 2017 #16
.... Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #17
Do they really not think that this is going to backfire on them in a big way? smirkymonkey May 2017 #18
Dick moves are only down like this when there is no fear of losing Generic Brad May 2017 #19
Agreed. treestar May 2017 #33
Two words: Obama's Legacy lamp_shade May 2017 #21
Destroy Obama's legacy but this bill also lowers octoberlib May 2017 #23
Because they want the TRILLION dollars they're slashing to give to the 1% in tax cuts. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #24
+ 1,000,000,000 no_hypocrisy May 2017 #26
Hatred for humanity that isn't white/male...and $$$$ Guilded Lilly May 2017 #27
Greed & bigotry. moondust May 2017 #28
Yup. It's all greed sharedvalues May 2017 #30
GOP has run on repeal for three elections sharedvalues May 2017 #29
They seem to think it will save face since they've been promising it for so long. Vinca May 2017 #31
That "uppity" Obama MFM008 May 2017 #32
Castrating the black man. FigTree May 2017 #34
Because they doubled down too many times on their Obama hate... Orsino May 2017 #35

Leith

(7,809 posts)
8. No, It Isn't
Wed May 3, 2017, 08:02 PM
May 2017

I started out as the ACA. It was rethugs who dubbed it "Obamacare" in the hopes of turning people against it. Their little plan backfired because people saw how good it was and are grateful to the president who championed for it.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. They want to ruin Obama's legacy. I'm sure his approval ratings upset them greatly...
Wed May 3, 2017, 07:45 PM
May 2017

They are even going after Michelle's achievements.

That degree of hatred and jealousy is bad for ones health. Payback may be a bitch. I'd say over half the Congressional Republicans have the disease and will suffer "bigly" if they change the pre-existing condition clause of ACA. We can all testify they've had that disease for many decades.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
15. They don't believe in spending one penny to help another person
Wed May 3, 2017, 08:21 PM
May 2017

These republican shitheels have no concept of the common good.

For example -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republcan-congressman-mo-brooks-poor-people-no-healthcare-good-lives-subsidised-alabama-a7713371.html

Or as rightwing douchenozzle Joe Walsh tweeted yesterday...
"your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care"

What a piece of shit, right?

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
16. Menage a Trois: Tax Cut--Obama Legacy--Russian Pharmaceuticals/ AlfaGroup $$ promised as
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:22 PM
May 2017

US Healthcare Investment

Russia intends to enter the global pharmaceutical market by 2020

Alfa Group/LetterOne (Russian Oligarch Mikhail Fridman) pledged a multi billion dollar investment in US Healthcare ....


(Reuters) - Russian billionaire Mikhail Fridman's LetterOne (L1) fund said on Monday it has launched L1 Health unit in the United States and is targeting up to $2-3 billion of investments in the global healthcare sector over the next three years.

The fund has been actively expanding abroad, investing in energy assets and other sectors, including the U.S. ride-hailing service provider Uber Technologies Inc.

Fridman pocketed about $12.5 billion after selling his stake in Anglo-Russian oil producer TNK-BP three years ago to Kremlin-controlled Rosneft (ROSN.MM). He has said he wants to turn LetterOne into a major international player.


https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0YS1OL


KEEP IN MIND
This is the same group whose paid advisor... Richard Burt... is also
a registered foreign agent lobbying for Putin's Gas Pipeline project
And
Is responsible for shaping 45's first foreign policy speech & his national Security council Organizational structure...
And
Provided white papers on Foreign Policy & National Security to Jeffy Sessions during the campaign
And gave speeches on those subjects at campaign strategy dinners with sessions & other campaign advisors
And
Is a member of the Center for the National Interest (CNI) which is who sponsored 45's Mayflower speech & VIP meet/greet where Ambassador Kislyak was present.....

all just coincidences -- right?
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Do they really not think that this is going to backfire on them in a big way?
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:30 PM
May 2017

They may get what they want in the short term, but in the long term it will destroy them. There is no way this will go over with the majority of the American people, regardless of political persuasion. People will die and death does not discriminate.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
19. Dick moves are only down like this when there is no fear of losing
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:35 PM
May 2017

These fuckers never plan to give up power. Ever. Elections as we knew them will either cease to exist or the fix is in going forward.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. Agreed.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:00 AM
May 2017

It will be easy for the media to find stories. I had the ACA, now nothing, now have this illness, can't afford treatment.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
23. Destroy Obama's legacy but this bill also lowers
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:03 AM
May 2017

taxes on the wealthy , which is the true purpose of the bill according to Chris Hayes.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
28. Greed & bigotry.
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:04 AM
May 2017

One or both are behind everything Republicans do. In this case it's the greed plus still trying to destroy the first minority President and the very idea that minorities are capable of doing the job.

And of course they can't let government succeed at doing things for people because COMMUNISM!!!!

As for the greed, presumably big tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires will boost the stock market because that's what millionaires and billionaires tend to do with their enormous piles of extra cash. (They don't need any more widgets, thank you.) So what if a few million people die because of the Republicans' so-called "health care plan" -- the stock market is booming and that means the economy is doing great thanks to TheRump and Republicans!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
29. GOP has run on repeal for three elections
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:18 AM
May 2017

If they don't pass something that they can claim was repeal, they look like they have just been lying about Obamacare for 6 years.

Which they have. Hopefully no one is fooled.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
31. They seem to think it will save face since they've been promising it for so long.
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:40 AM
May 2017

It won't, of course. As soon as premiums hit the stratosphere and the sheeple start dying they'll claim they were never for their badly crafted replacement bill. The ACA wouldn't have been in such trouble if Republicans hadn't started defunding it a couple of years ago. If they had any brains at all they'd replace what they undid and try to get the ACA running smoothly.

FigTree

(347 posts)
34. Castrating the black man.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:02 AM
May 2017

And revenge from the Turd for his public humiliation at the press dinner. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
35. Because they doubled down too many times on their Obama hate...
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:06 AM
May 2017

...but a tax cut for the rich is its own reward.

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