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Andy Griffith on the Patriot Act (Original Post) ashling Jul 2012 OP
If only they had asked him..... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #1
Whatever one may say of our Founders, they weren't particularly stupid. malthaussen Jul 2012 #2
And the way it is in Maricopa county Arizona Jumping John Jul 2012 #3
When you have the time, could you let us know what truedelphi Jul 2012 #4
arizona-court-officers-help-themselves-to-defense-documents Jumping John Jul 2012 #5
Thank you for posting that info. n/t truedelphi Jul 2012 #7
I knew Sheriff Joe was bad,... Volaris Jul 2012 #8
Griffith was unrealistic, a firebagger, and increasingly irrelevent MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #6

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
2. Whatever one may say of our Founders, they weren't particularly stupid.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:39 PM
Jul 2012

They knew that the Bill of Rights would cause problems for law enforcement. They passed on it anyway. Obviously, they thought that some things are more important than maximizing the efficiency of law enforcement.

-- Mal

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. When you have the time, could you let us know what
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jul 2012

is being discussed? I'm a bit hearing impaired and the hiss is more than I can take. Can't make out the words, only the hiss.

 

Jumping John

(930 posts)
5. arizona-court-officers-help-themselves-to-defense-documents
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jul 2012

Court officers are allowed to screen files to make sure that they don't contain contraband, and the Sheriff's office claims that was what Stoddard was doing -- examining a document that had escaped the screening process. But unless a pistol is duct-taped to a letter, officers aren't permitted to help themselves to confidential memos, briefs, motions, letters or any of the other contents of an attorney's files.

Sheriff's Deputy Chief Jack MacIntyre insists that nothing improper was done with the photocopied documents, which a judge has since determined were in fact subject to attorney-client privilege. MacIntyre told Phoenix's Channel 12, "The original papers were given back to the defense attorney, and the copy that was made was sealed in an envelope and given to county counsel. When county counsel read them, they gave them back to the defense attorney. Nobody from the Sheriff's Office ever read them."

We'll have to take the Sheriff's Office's word for that.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been notorious for years for using his power to spy on opponents, and even arrest journalists -- executives with the weekly Phoenix New Times -- who have been critical of his conduct. Arpaio and the Sheriff's Office are reportedly being investigated by the FBI for using threats and intimidation to settle political scores. Among those known to have been scrutinized, arrested or raided by Arpaio's deputies are candidates who ran against Arpaio, a civil liberties attorney and many political opponents in county and state office.

Judge Gary Donahoe is scheduled to rule on the defense documents case on Thursday.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/arizona-court-officers-help-themselves-to-defense-documents

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
8. I knew Sheriff Joe was bad,...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:40 PM
Jul 2012

but Holy God, he must think he is entitled to just go ahead and run his own little fiefdom down there...Sheriff of Nottingham, eat your fucking heart out..

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. Griffith was unrealistic, a firebagger, and increasingly irrelevent
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jul 2012

Ah bullshit, can't do the Third-Way Manny thing here. Griffith was a good Democrat, and a good person. But I repeat myself.

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