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Florida Representative Ron DeSantis, who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus, which controls enough seats in the lower chamber to effectively veto any health care bill.
When Erin Burnett on CNN asked DeSantis was asked how he and his colleagues would address the story of Tiffany Koehler, a Donald Trump voter and cancer survivor who says she is only alive today because of Obamacares Medicaid expansion, he suggested that anyone without health insurance could still just go to the emergency room:
BURNETT: What do you say to Tiffany? I mean, shes a Republican, but she wouldnt be alive, she wouldnt be here without that Medicaid expansion in Obamacare.
DESANTIS: Well, if you remember when Obamacare was enacted, there were millions of people who had their health care canceled. And so there are stories of people who had certain needs, cancer or whatnot, who got pushed into policies that they didnt want, and then they didnt have the same coverage that they had because of the broken promise. So I think this law has really created a lot of different aspects. I would say though, and people who supported Obamacare used to make this point a lot before it passed, there really is no lack of health care. If people really need it, they show up to the emergency room, they do get care, it just gets passed on to other folks.
BURNETT: But she had $1 million in cancer treatments. Youre not going to get that by showing up in an emergency room.
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greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and somewhere they will put it in some bill that businesses to not have to accept patients (customers) who can't pay. Hospitals just can't stay in business with a free back door.
Trekologer
(997 posts)"it just gets passed on to other folks"
We can't make you get insurance if you can afford it, because you might be paying for someone else's care who is sick. But we'll make it so you can't afford insurance and leave you to go to the ER and not pay, making other people pay for your health care.
docgee
(870 posts)I am going to use that argument.
malaise
(268,966 posts)That is all
drray23
(7,627 posts)hospitals are only required to stabilize you so you dont die on the spot ( like from an accident or a heart attack ) . they are not obligated to treat you over time for long treatments like cancer therapy.
in any case, they will still try to collect from you. if you cant pay you will go bankrupt or get your credit report trashed.
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)I had a heart attack while uninsured in 2010. They took care of me, actually gave me great care. But I couldn't pay them. My credit is just now starting to recover from that.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)me how much our lawmakers do not know about the health insurance industry in this country. Almost NONE of them have even a minimal grasp of how it works. I can't think of one of them that is qualified to vote on legislation regarding health care (except maybe Al Franken). That said, while I'm sorry that the woman with cancer, described in this story, may lose her coverage...she's a Dump voter and I blame her for this shit storm. She bought and paid for the hell he has unleashed. Dump TOLD us what he was going to do before he was elected. How can she be surprised that he is doing it? No sympathy. None.
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)They live in a Randian world where either you are a success that can take care of yourself or your a taker that doesn't deserve to be helped. They have no concept of compassion, of shared risk, of commons, none of it. They are disgusting, heartless assholes.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)they are disgusting, heartless and STUPID assholes. They're stupid because they don't understand that the basic principles of the ACA protect ALL OF US. It protects them too. They don't get that part of it. Insurance corporations will screw them and their loved ones just like they will the rest of us.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)That's what one of my doctors told me one time when I had a minor scare following an operation and mentioned that I thought of going to the emergency room. She admonished me, saying that the only time I should go to the ER is if I literally think I am dying. And she didn't mean dying of cancer.
The emergency room is supposed to be for emergencies. It is the height of irresponsibility for Republicans to suggest that people go to the emergency room for routine problems or to get treatment for chronic illnesses. They might as well say one should call the fire department every time one loses one's keys.
lame54
(35,287 posts)Emergency room Dr's and Nurses all over the country saying "Fuck you asshole, we have enough to do without you filling up our waiting rooms."
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)If you can't afford to pay for your medical care, you're not getting any. Period.