Comey is moving towards declaring indictments. Grand Juries are there. Impeachment.

[L. Coyote]

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[MFM008]

1. What a terrible shame

[PoliticAverse]

2. "Comey neither wants nor needs a Special Prosecutor." - he indicated yesterday he was working...

with 2 sets of prosecutors so apparently he doesn't need the appointment of a Special Prosecutor at this time.

[MineralMan]

3. I think you meant "indicated" in your title.

Comey can't indict anyone. That is not within his power. You might want to edit your title.

[PoliticAverse]

5. Yes left out the a, thanks. n/t

[certainot]

21. he doesn't want a special prosecutor interfering with the cover up

is the way these things usually work

whatever happens it will take forever and a few people will get thrown under the bus and be sent to tennis camp to save the republican party - and they'll probably try to implicate some obama people in it

[MineralMan]

4. I think Ms. Mensch is confused here.

The FBI does not indict anyone. It cannot. That is reserved for the Justice Department. The FBI only investigates and makes recommendations. No indictment can issue from Comey or the FBI.

If she does not understand that, I have to wonder how well she understands any of it.

[Cosmocat]

6. Yeah

I lean toward thinking she is wired in a bit, but it does give you pause when she stumbles on rather basic technical aspects like this ...

[MineralMan]

8. She seems to be rather sloppy in her pronouncements.

That always makes me question her actual understanding of what she says. When you tweet, you have to choose your words very carefully, due to the brevity imposed by Twitter.

She doesn't do that. Too bad.

[DefenseLawyer]

12. You are certainly correct, but as a practical matter

you would be hard pressed to find a single instance in the history of the country where the FBI director wanted someone indicted and that didn't happen. So normally, when the FBI wants someone indicted, it happens. 100% of the time. However, there is nothing normal about this Justice Department, so in this case, I wouldn't assume anything.

[MineralMan]

14. Nothing normal about this situation, either.

The political ramifications take it right out of the norm. In my opinion, Comey should not be the FBI Director, and should have been removed for interfering with an election last year. That he was not was a mistake on Obama's part, I think.

Everything is in a cocked hat right now. I don't know how it's all going to end up.

[FBaggins]

28. That's certainly true in most cases...

...But in most cases, the prosecutors don't work for the person that the FBI wants to indict.

[pnwmom]

60. But in most cases that person hasn't spent months dissing all the US intelligence agencies

and the FBI.

[FBaggins]

64. That wouldn't matter for prosecution purposes

Because intelligence agencies lack prosecutorial powers (absent a DOJ decision to the contrary). Trump isn't going to dis his own DOJ. You would need an AG who was willing to buck the president (and likely then get fired).

[pnwmom]

67. Sessions has recused himself. The new guy might be willing to buck the President. We'll see. nt

[pnwmom]

59. Plus, she referred to the fact that Comey has confirmed there are federal prosecutors involved.

Wouldn't that be significant?

[awesomerwb]

10. I am happy she's(Mensch) getting people involved

However I'm not subjecting myself to the ups and downs I would imagine reading her tweets. Elation to disappointment.

I hope someone corrects her on this soon.

[pnwmom]

61. She was right. She mentioned the Grand Juries in that tweet. She knows the FBI doesn't indict.nt

[pnwmom]

58. She didn't stumble. She specifically mentioned Grand juries. She knows that they can indict,

not the FBI.

[L. Coyote]

11. She knows there are grand juries working. Don't confuse no special prosecutor and no prosecution.

The confusion seems to be yours.

[awesomerwb]

13. "She knows" or she claims to know?

Not trying to start argument or anything, what I saw about Comey yesterday doesn't give me much hope he wants to get to the bottom of this.

I hope I'm wrong of course.

[SticksnStones]

46. Here, watch this

[pnwmom]

62. Claude Taylor, who has worked for Bill Clinton and been involved in 3 campaigns,

wrote that there were 2 Grand Juries investigating Russia/Trump matters. Then Comey said in the hearing that there were two prosecutors "coordinating" with the FBI -- which seems to confirm what Taylor has been hearing.

Mensch has been retweeting some of Taylor's tweets and he's been confirming some of hers. They have different sources, but their sources info seems to correlate. Also, Rick Wilson is a Republican operative, another never-trumper, who has sources that confirm some of Taylor and Mensch's reports.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. I expect is twitterish short for "will recommend indictments" to the grand juries.

I expect she is not confused on the question of who actually indicts.

Grand juries are not free ranging over the landscape looking for somebody, anybody, to indict. They work from lists from the prosecutors who work from lists backed by evidence produced by law enforcement personnel such as the FBI.

[pnwmom]

57. No, she understands. This is what she said:

"Guys, James Comey is moving towards declaring indictments. Grand Juries are there."

See how she references Grand Juries? She knows that GJ's are the ones who issue indictments.

And in earlier tweets, she discussed with people the legal question of the significance of grand juries and the likelihood of indictments.

[kentuck]

7. He would be gone tomorrow...

if he does anything to piss off Trump.

Does he want to keep his job?

[MelissaB]

9. Sealed Complaints as well.

See this thread:

"There have been sealed COMPLAINTS against Manafort and four others for several months".

[FiveGoodMen]

15. The constant tease is just painful

Let us know IF and when something actually happens.

[demmiblue]

18. I know, right?!

Thank the admins for the ignore feature.

[mfcorey1]

16. I will believe it when I see it!

[janterry]

52. That's what I think, too.

It would be a great day (my town would dance in the streets).

But I'll wait until it happens. I'm not going to get my hopes up.................

[okieinpain]

17. wonder if this is why repugcare is being rushed through. n/t.

[L. Coyote]

19. Team Trump charged at state level no pardons.

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[Blue_Roses]

23. Someone please explain these tweets

Seriously, I can't decipher what exactly she is trying to say!

[L. Coyote]

24. Anyone convicted by the State of NY, or any state, cannot be pardoned by the President.

NY AG Schneidermann may file charges against trump and others.

[Blue_Roses]

25. Got it

Thank-you!

[elmac]

20. Putin will put a stop to it

show Comey in a golden shower film with tRump or something like that. Anyway, too late, we have a fascist in office no matter who gets kicked out. Criminals are in charge, nothing will change.

[benpollard]

22. Republicans aren't going to impeach one of their own

[itcfish]

30. They might

They got most of the agenda through with Trump's EOs, the repealed Obamacare. McConnel will probably pull some dirty trick and get Trumpcare passed in the Senate. Their job is done, they don't need Trump anymore. It would have be impeach Trump/Pence, his whole administration, McConnel and Ryan and void all of his EOs and that will never happen and I don't even know if that is possible.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

33. If They Fear They'll Go Down With The Ship, They Will

When it starts getting close to the 2018 elections, and the Republicans start seeing their poll numbers go into the tank due to their being tied to Trump, they'll do anything to save their oily hides. They will vote to impeach so they can go campaign in their home districts on, "I know you guys hate Trump. I do too. Lookie, I voted to impeach him! I'm just like you! Vote for me again!"

I can't possibly be the only person who remembers 2008. The country was SO anti-Bush that anyone tied to him got swept out of office. Democrats won political offices all over the nation just because the country was so sick and tired of Bush and the lapdogs who enabled him. I see a similar phenomenon coming in 2018. And any Republicans who remember that as well will start distancing themselves from Trump as soon as they see THEIR numbers start to dip.

Also, for as many Republicans as there were during the primaries saying they would never support Trump, I can't believe there hasn't been some movement to get him out of there and get Pence in. Pence is seen as "one of them." Why do they continue to put up with Trump killing their "brand" when they can get "one of their own" into his position easily? Doesn't make sense to me.

At the end of the day, Republicans are spineless, so we may not get full-fledged impeachment until Democrats re-take the Congress in 2018, but I feel confident we'll ride this assclown currently squatting in our White House out on a rail before his term is up.

[benpollard]

69. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter

Just two years after the Bush disaster ended, Republicans regained control of the House.

[sharedvalues]

26. Olbermann is now discussing fed grand juries and Comey

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029019140

These crimes will be exposed and sooner or later the mainstream press will report them.

Even our for profit infotainment press will love to discuss a trainwreck of indictments. Get ready.

[L. Coyote]

31. VIDEO: Is a Grand Jury Now Looking into Trump?

[Cha]

36. Thanks for that.. got to see my Senator Hirono on

Keith's Resistance.

[get the red out]

27. Seeing would be believing for me

Twitter has been full of this for quite a while now.

[itcfish]

29. Who or What is GJ?

??? Thank you

[lunasun]

32. Grand jury

a jury, normally of twenty-three jurors, selected to examine the validity of an accusation before trial.

[itcfish]

34. Duh!

Thank you!

[Volaris]

35. A grand jury

Is a court operation in which evidence is put before the court to determine if that evidence will support charging someone(s) with a crime. If yes, charges are filed.
If no, everybody goes home. Because of the possibility of either being the case, grand juries and the evidence they consider are usually sealed until a decision is made.

Grand Juries don't file charges of their own volition, they just make recommendations to charge with crimes or not.

But if someone (either State AG or feds) put that information to a court TO MAKE SURE they're not wrong in what they're seeing or how to proceed if they are wrong (go get evidence of X, because this ain't enough) it means someone wants their shit together so that WHEN charges get filed, that's an airtight case and NOBODY goes home.

I'm not a lawyer.

[L. Coyote]

37. Make that THREE confirmed grand juries are now empaneled. Thirty-some indictments?

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[mn9driver]

38. Remember Fitzmas?

I do. I'll get excited when I see indictments and impeachment hearings.

Until then, it's all bullshit.

[Catherine Vincent]

51. I remember Fitzmas

I also remember Fitzgerald and Comey are buddies.

[frankieallen]

55. Or....24 business hours

[BSdetect]

40. No deals, no pardons, no parole.

Fuck the turd.

[oasis]

41. We can see the pressure is mounting because Trump is squirming more

nowadays. He's receiving hints of these reports through his channels.

[LenaBaby61]

53. We can see the pressure is mounting because Trump is squirming more.

It's difficult to really see if/when he's squirming.

It's a SAFE bet to say that he's suffering from some form of mental deterioration, and it gets WORSE seemingly as each new day unfolds. There's still enough of him there currently to make him the biggest most ridiculous, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic, lying, racist, sexist, misogynistic con-man on the planet. But at times, and with the way mental deterioration works for someone like him, I'm sure he's not all there--he's in his OWN little tRumputin world, which is an extremely frightening place to BE

[Coventina]

42. I refuse to be interested until it actually happens.

And even then, unless Pence is removed as well, it may do more harm than good.

[snooper2]

43. What gives this Claude guy credibility?

Claude Taylor
@TrueFactsStated
Veteran of three presidential campaigns, served on White House staff (Clinton). Actively engaged in protecting and preserving our democracy.

[L. Coyote]

45. Same as Woodward and Bernstein. The truth in print.

Likewise for Louise Mensch, Olbermann, and all the others collaborating, reporting, and working diligently day in and day out to bring the facts to the fore.

[L. Coyote]

44. Comey testimony as to Eastern District DOES MEAN and DOES confirm he is trying to bring charges

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[hatrack]

47. Blahblahblahblahblah - when AFP, and Deutsche Welle and the Guardian have it, I'll believe it . . .

Not before then.

[L. Coyote]

48. New Olbermann‏ VIDEO: Comey confirms? - VA Grand Jury impaneled - #TrumpRussia

"These are the most important events in the investigation of Trump and Russia since the day of the Presidential election."

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[chelsea0011]

49. I wont get my hopes up. I fully expect a report to be released in October 2018 saying

there will be no charges to anyone.

[hatrack]

50. Right around the 26th, 27th, I'm sure

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[L. Coyote]

54. Senate Asks Trump Associates for Records of Communication With Russians

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By MATTHEW ROSENBERG and MAGGIE HABERMAN
May 5, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Senate Intelligence Committee, seeking to accelerate its broad investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election, has asked a number of high-profile Trump campaign associates to hand over emails and other records of communications and dealings with Russian officials and businesspeople.

The requests, made in letters sent by the committee in the past 10 days, are a preliminary step and open the way to subpoenas for anyone who does not comply, said two officials with knowledge of the Senate investigation. They said Senator Richard M. Burr, a North Carolina Republican who is chairman of the committee, was prepared to compel the Trump associates to turn over their records. ..................

And this just popped too:

[L. Coyote]

56. The Senate Intelligence Committee Letter

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[L. Coyote]

66. Screwball Russian Agent Carter Page is playing "victim" now. Sends bazaar letter to Senate

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[L. Coyote]

71. "I was illegally wiretapped and unmasked"

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[ucrdem]

63. Just the usual megalomania.

What is it about that department?

[L. Coyote]

65. Comey refuses to say FBI has ruled out Trump

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[0rganism]

68. smells a lot like Fitzmas

i'm not going to be holding my breath, especially when placing hope in Comey's FBI
i really think if anything is going to stop our slide into fascism it has to happen in Nov. 2018, and it has to happen in a very convincing manner

[LiberalFighter]

70. I don't trust Comey. I consider him part of Putin's gang.

[L. Coyote]

72. On cable programming today: Malcolm Nance with Joy Reid.

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