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Thu May 4, 2017, 12:40 PM

Is There Still A Chance That There Will Be Repug Defections When The Bill Comes To The Floor?.....

Will at the last minute some Repugs chicken out and vote no?

What gun is being held to their heads to vote yes on this?

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Reply Is There Still A Chance That There Will Be Repug Defections When The Bill Comes To The Floor?..... (Original post)
global1 May 2017 OP
kentuck May 2017 #1
Freethinker65 May 2017 #2
Va Lefty May 2017 #3
Demsrule86 May 2017 #5
still_one May 2017 #6
gratuitous May 2017 #7
Demsrule86 May 2017 #4
Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #8
Bleacher Creature May 2017 #9

Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:40 PM

1. The Trump gun.

The threat of being primaried.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:42 PM

2. Threat to withhold campaign funds is my guess

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:44 PM

3. They would not bring it to the floor for a vote if the were not sure of winning

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #3)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:49 PM

5. This time they might.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #3)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:53 PM

6. Those are my thoughts also

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #3)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:57 PM

7. Ordinarily, I'd say that's true

But with this bunch of stumblebums, who can say for sure? We know that their margin for error is razor thin, less than five total votes, and right now the Capitol switchboard is smoking from all the constituent calls.

It occurs to me that there's also a possibility that the Republicans may want to have a failed floor vote just to get Trump off this hobbyhorse. That route is perilous as well, because every Republican who votes for this bill is going to have it hung around his neck like an albatross for the next 18 months. But it might be deemed an acceptable trade-off, thinking that they can repair any damage from a failed vote over 18 months, but having to put up with Lord Littlehands' constant hectoring hurts them short-term and long-term.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:48 PM

4. There is still a chance...people have been calling and not every GOP has committed...Ryan does not

have the votes on paper yet.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 12:57 PM

8. NBC has a running count of "votes"...

We need 23 nays

So far:

17 nay
19 undecided

This is probably an approximate, but if 5 more chicken out it fails!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 01:17 PM

9. It's happened before, but it's HIGHLY unlikely.

It would be a massive embarrassment; worse than if they just pull it altogether. I really doubt that they would have brought it to the floor without knowing the votes are locked down.

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