For the ACHA, they only need 51 Senate votes (out of their 52). Filibuster doesn't apply

[pnwmom]

because this vote deals with budget issues and can be passed using the procedure called reconciliation.

http://www.thv11.com/news/local/republicans-just-voted-to-repeal-obamacare-heres-how-your-arkansas-congressmen-voted/436812123

The bill will now head to the Senate, where Mr. Hill is confident that the members of both legislative chambers will work together. However, the Republicans hold an extremely narrow majority in the Senate, with only 52 GOP members. So the GOP margin for error in the 100-member chamber is much smaller than it was in Thursday’s House vote, as the party could only lose one party vote. The ACA passed the Senate with a 60-vote super-majority in 2009. The AHCA vote will only require a simple-majority vote—meaning just 51 votes—because of a unique Senate protocol of reconciliation, which is normally reserved for budget-related bills.

[SoCalNative]

1. Senate repubs (Grassley)

say they will not vote on House-passed bill and will craft their own.

[octoberlib]

5. Lamar Alexander said the same thing. The Senate's going to refuse to take up the bill..

[AngryAmish]

14. Then it goes to committee

[PA Democrat]

2. The current bill I believe allows insurance companies to sell across state lines

which would place it outside of the requirement s for reconciliation. If they keep this provision IN the bill it should be susceptible to a filibuster.

[metroins]

4. Correct

To PASL, Purchase across state lines, they would need to end around the McCarran Ferguson Act which cannot be done in reconciliation.

If they remove some aspects such as PASL and keep it on budget, they can do it in reconciliation.

[atreides1]

3. True

But because of that fact, the CBO has to list the costs and the effects on the American people! The House pushed their version through without a public review or vetting by the CBO!

I believe that the CBO report is going to cost some House Republicans their seats in 2018, especially in districts that Clinton won in 2016!

[leftynyc]

8. Starting with

darrell freeking issa, I hope. Hillary won his district by 8.6 points. His was the deciding vote (sort of, his put it over the top).

[LeftInTX]

6. We lost Ted Kennedy and the super-majority before the ACA passed

It believe it was passed on budget reconciliation.

[karynnj]

11. No it was not. It passed with 60 votes in Decrmber 2009

In January 2010 Scott Brown won, so the House passed the Senate bill as passed, meaning no reconciliation neeed. This was the passage of Obamacare. They then passed a much smaller bill, that met the rules of reconciliation under reconciliation in both houses.

[Bradical79]

7. Wouldn't they need 50 because of Pence? -nt

[pnwmom]

9. Right. n/t

[WePurrsevere]

10. Let's hope that Senator Schumer is right...

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/331730-schumer-house-obamacare-repeal-bill-cant-pass-senate

GOP leadership also faces a narrow path if the legislation reaches the Senate. Under the rules of "reconciliation," they can only lose two GOP senators and still pass the bill, because no Democrats are expected to support it.

But Schumer warned the House legislation only has a "small" chance of survival in the Senate and could run into a procedural buzzsaw because of the Byrd rule, which governs legislation passed under the special budget rules Republicans are using to pass the healthcare legislation. To pass muster, legislation must be primarily focused on addressing the deficit, which is why only provisions that have a budgetary impact can be included.

"The amendment to allow states to drop pre-existing condition requirements, for instance, very possibly violates the Byrd rule. If the moderate group in the House gets an additional amendment to the deal with the very same issue, that may violate the Byrd rule as well," Schumer said

.

[beachbum bob]

12. mcconnel knows the drill and will save conservatives from themselves as best he can

the House Bill has zero chance to pass in the Senate

[Azathoth]

13. McConnell didn't hesitate to change the rules for a SCOTUS nominee

Something that both parties used to consider one of the absolute biggest reasons to maintain the filibuster. Does anyone really think he's going to respect Senate traditions enough not to change the rules here?

We're in the big leagues now. The GOP is on course to murder tens of thousands of people and take healthcare away from millions more. We've seen shit like this before in history. Once extremist leaders set the party on course into Poland, the "moderates" fall in line. Senate parliamentary arcana ain't gonna stop it.