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Can the Senate just send the bill back to the House (Original Post) katmondoo May 2017 OP
All McConnell has to say is NO! yallerdawg May 2017 #1
I think the aswer is it can die in the Senate katmondoo May 2017 #2
They can. They can also accept it, gut it, and overlay their own bill. haele May 2017 #3
I suspect any "milder or moderate bill", bill would NOT be accepted by the still_one May 2017 #5
To just "send the bill back" DeminPennswoods May 2017 #4

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. All McConnell has to say is NO!
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:34 PM
May 2017

He doesn't have to consider it - just like the Senate did the 60 plus times before!

haele

(12,635 posts)
3. They can. They can also accept it, gut it, and overlay their own bill.
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:40 PM
May 2017

Rejecting it only means the House can try again.

To be truly evil and give the GOP the illusion of a "win", the Senate can write their own milder, much moderate R&R bill - hell, they can just cut and paste the ACA on it with a few tweeks to give "ObamaCare" a new name, and replace the House bill with theirs, and send it back for reconciliation with the House.

Once it gets past reconciliation, then Trump can sign it, and everyone will be happy except the "Freedom Caucus" Teahaidists who wanted to just slowly kill off the undeserving poor and disabled who are mooching off "their taxes", and set up their own regional mall-church potentates and rule like Chechnyan dictators.

Haele

still_one

(92,060 posts)
5. I suspect any "milder or moderate bill", bill would NOT be accepted by the
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:49 PM
May 2017

"Freedom Caucus", and unless the bill was the same or better than the ACA, the Democrats will filibuster it, so it never gets to reconciliation.

With a little luck, it will die in the Senate, unless of course it is the same or better than the ACA, or something like Medicare for all.

Also, I don't think the Senate can vote on it without a CBO price tag

Either way, 2018 is going to be more critical than ever


DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
4. To just "send the bill back"
Thu May 4, 2017, 05:47 PM
May 2017

the Senate would have to accept the language in its entirety without change. Otherwise, any change the Senate makes means the bill would have to go to conference committee, agreed to there, then voted on by both chambers.

The Senate could strip out the language in the House bill and substitute its own. The House could agree to the Senate language 100%, but they would still have to vote on the bill.

The plan has been to push the bill through budget reconcilliation because that only takes 50 votes plus Pence, so they have to be careful what they include so not to prevent the bill from qualifying for the reconcilliation process.

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