GOP Believes They Are Bullet Proof Electorally. They Control The Voting Process.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The GOP would not act this way unless they felt they had 2018 in the bag. With money, a cooperative media, voter suppression, election fraud et al, the Democrats cannot win. They will just turn loose the KKK and white supremacists to scare away the minorities. They just will stop Democrats from voting and they will stuff the ballot boxes.

Now what I just said is probably a myth. But you have to wonder after 2016. The likely hood that Trump would have won those key states in the eleventh hour like he did is impossible. Votes were stolen and thrown away and we all know it.

[kimbutgar]

1. I get that sick feeling about this also they have totally locked down voting in their favor

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. This is no time to fold our tents and die.

We must fight back.

The "how" is the question.

I don't know. But I am sure that there is someone who does know how to fight this.

[mvd]

3. I'm definitely in a feisty mood!

The resistance should grow more and more after they passed that piece of crap bill.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. See Post 34

[Motownman78]

6. No, but Americans must feel the consequences

of their actions. The only reason we won in 2006 is because everyone witnessed the Republicans f***ing everything up when they are in total control. BTW, I have a pre-existing condition. I would gladly suffer just to see the malignant ideology of the Republican party shown for the shits-how that it is.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. You tell em, compadre.

See Post 33

[mountain grammy]

4. I'll always believe this was a stolen election.

[CousinIT]

5. Unlimited money, complicit media, massive voter suppression, gerrymandering....

...yep.

I think Democrats need to be a LOT MEANER.

I don't mean they need to change their ideology or platform or move further left or center - just that they need to be MEANER. Like, NOW.

[rufus dog]

8. I think the proper term is Fucking Nasty!

Fair play and all, but when we knock them down, we don't help them up, and never, NEVER, apologize.

The media will be all over us at first, but fuck them, we need to knock them around a bit too.

[CousinIT]

9. Agreed. Dems need to be nasty thugs just like GOP. n/t

[LovingA2andMI]

12. Whatever It Takes To Win....

Whatever....It....Takes. It is time to step this game to the 11th Level!

[Initech]

42. Agreed! No more nice liberals!

This is going too far. We need to get angry and mean and treat them the way they treated us the last 20 years.

We need to be like Stephen Root's character from Dodgeball:

[Lifelong Protester]

7. I feeling feisty, too.

Whether the election was stolen, we still need to overcome.

[adigal]

10. Stop! Please! They can only steal it if it is close

So get out there with a list of every Dem who didnt vote in 2016, make sure they are registered, and plan to get people to the polls next year. 1/2 of Americans didnt vote.
#RESIST

[davekriss]

40. I agree

We have to win a real 60% or more to squeak by at 50.1% at the polls.

[TheMastersNemesis]

11. We Just Have To Fight Hard & Extremely Nasty.

We need to broadcast extremely nasty even borderline inappropriate ads. I would like to see and add with that RVN Colonel shooting that hostage and past in a GOP rep pulling the trigger on a person even a black one . We need to go after them calling them racist every single time.

[Bettie]

31. The big difference is

that our nasty, borderline inappropriate ads can also be TRUE.

But we need to fight even harder than they do, we need to meet everything they say with a hard punch back at them.

And we need to stop "going high".

[sharedvalues]

13. The propaganda media - Fox, conserv. radio - and the for-profit media help them enormously

The propaganda right wing outlets are really hard to fight. They make a lot of money, by scaring old white men.

One thing that might help is protests at fox news HQ in NY. Where does Limbaugh tape?

[mythology]

14. Bullshit. The stupid conspiracy theories about stolen votes need to stop

The national polls were slightly more accurate in 2016 than in 2012. Nobody here is claiming Obama stole 2012. Clinton lost the election.

It's embarrassing that people here put forth utterly unsupported claims that there were actual votes changed. How is it any different than Republicans claiming in person voter fraud is a problem?

[mvd]

15. I don't agree at all

No one should shut up about it. I doubt they will. And Obama won easily both times. Clinton got 3 million more votes and lost, with Russian interference throughout. You have more faith in the voting system than I do.

[Nevernose]

20. You should check out "Shattered"

It's nicer to Hillary than I expected, and at points vicious towards her campaign staff. The book made me angry and sad, but it explains how we got in this mess and doesn't need any "conspiracy theories" to explain the loss.

(And, personally speaking, I'm far more concerned about voter suppression than election rigging)

[mvd]

30. I'm reading it now

Very interesting. I don't always agree with their characterizations (and not just of Hillary), but it really is revealing and is actually helping me cope despite being sad. I am not saying for sure it was stlolen. Just that I have always had that feeling something was wrong with the vote that night. If Trump becomes impeached, maybe we will know everything.

[RAFisher]

16. It's worrisome. I think some people still cant believe Clinton lost to der fuhrer.

We had 2012 Obama voters voting for the pumpkin in 2016. I've seen people just blow this off as voter fraud. I'm afraid lessons that could be learned from 2016 will be ignored.

[Foamfollower]

21. As an interesting aside, go back to wingnut postings after 2008 an 2012.

You will find that wingnuts were SCREECHING about stolen votes and stolen elections.

Every time one side loses, they scream about voter fraud with zero to back up the bullshit conspiracy theories.

It's nothing but hooey and makes the people who spew it look like wackos.

[TheFrenchRazor]

24. don't expect anyone else to share your faith in the GOP. nt

[bluestarone]

17. Well i still

dont trust our machines (all recounts were STOPPED) That;s gotta tell you something

[TheFrenchRazor]

25. correct; we need all paper ballots, HAND-COUNTED, all the time. nt

[Steven Maurer]

18. I disagree. They're screwed no matter what they do.

Their base can and will primary them out of office if they don't pass a bill that will make it exceedingly hard to win their general election.

And as much as people worry about election fraud, it's more difficult than you might imagine.

[Mountain Mule]

19. Maybe the GOP is that stupid but they'll find out!

I'm fairly certain that in Colorado anyway, we're gonna kick the GOP's ass in the midterms. Colorado Senator, Cory Gardner(R), is on his way out for sure. We have mail-in ballots - you don't even have to leave your house to vote in Colorado. I think voter outrage may trump any activities on the part of the KKK in the red states. (HEH!) We need to stay positive and not give in to worry or despair. These are dark days for our country, but we'll make it through if we just keep fighting the good fight. I firmly believe this. NPR reported that Dems in the House began singing "Hey, Hey - Goodbye!" after the ACA repeal act was passed today.

Hey, hey - goodbye, repugs. It was nice knowing you. NOT!

[nikibatts]

22. We need a plan to move a few dozen families or individuals into about 60 red gerrymandered areas

across the country. There are enough wealthy Democrats to purchase a home in those areas as second homes like they do in FL and elsewhere.

[C Moon]

23. I don't even think it's gerrymandering, reaching out to any particular group, or any political skill

I believe the GOP are thieves and traitors.
It's a class war. They know it. They want to win it.
Most of us don't know we're at war. We just work 5 days per week, and enjoy our weekends as best we can—if we're even that lucky.
THIS is WWIII.

[jodymarie aimee]

26. Been this way for 7 years

here in Wisconsin. No power.

[Vinca]

27. On the other hand, they're killing their own voters. Sad.

[Orsino]

28. They might act this way knowing that the Senate won't agree.

If this is just more kabuki, if this is just more of them pretending to be trying to repeal the ACA, that might explain yesterday's votes.

They had rather painted themselves into a corner on repeal.

[exboyfil]

29. We have to make them own the legislation

Badger them until they admit that they just passed something they were told to pass.

At that point tell them they are just f____ing playing with people's lives. They are already on record admitting to sabotaging ACA.

[Orsino]

37. If the Senate can make it disappear soon enough...

...or if they just can't agree with the House on what to do, perhaps the GOP can count on our goldfish-like memories. But I don't see how this can be anything other than a net negative for 2018.

[Lurks Often]

32. More conspiracy theory nonsense from you

If the vote and election were stolen like you keep claiming, then where is the outcry from:

The registrars of voters across the country?
The attorney generals across the country?
The secretaries of state across the country?
The governors of the states across the country?
The Democratic leadership in Congress?
The Vice President?
President Obama?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. "I'd prefer to die standing, than to live always on my knees."

Defeatism sucks.

[uponit7771]

36. yeap, the only reason the would pull this crap is if they had some backing ... someone who they knew

... would have them when crap hit the fan

[itcfish]

38. That is exactly

How I feel when they would not vote on Garland. They knew they had the presidency in the bag or else why take a chance with Hillary's choice for the Supreme Court? Now with Stevens (?) retiring, they will have a chance to have 2 fascists on the court.

[raccoon]

39. "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."-Stalin

I think you're onto something, Masters.

[L. Coyote]

41. The 1.5% red shift from exit polls in 2004 was scandalous, yet 4.7% in 2016 not a peep.

[TheFrenchRazor]

43. and repugs win 2 elections since 2000 with minority of votes; no, nothing at all suspicious there.

[L. Coyote]

44. Electoral College makes it easy to steal Prtesidency, just switch inner-city black votes

in a couple of Dem strongholds and blues states turn red. Cleveland 2004 is the best example.