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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums3 things USA can learn from the French
1. They vote on Sunday.
2. Press has to STFU FOR 24 Hours
3. THEY are NOT going to elect the Trumpish candidate
Vive la France!
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)In the USA.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)But ... Freedom of speech!
Freedom to run unlimited commercials at the last minute to boost our bottom line!
Vive la pocketbook!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)And people pitched a fit.
Oh, I see my mistake. It's other media and other people's speech that the government should censor in the interests of protecting the electorate.
People trust the government more than they trust anybody else, and then insist that the government is "we the people." Obviously not the we distrust, of course. Leading me once again to seriously question what "we the people" means to some.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)Campaigns only last a few weeks. 3 months max, IIRC.
Trump already campaigning for 2020 makes me want to puke.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)The only reasons I can think of that we run such long campaigns are:
Historically, huge country to cover via rail etc compared to smaller European countries ... back before electronic media ... and ...
Profit motive AFTER mass media invented.
Anyone have any strong background/research on why our long election periods exist?
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Hmmmmm
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Imagine all the programs we can fund from money saved from political commercials?
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Citizen's United
DFW
(54,358 posts)They are VERY annoying.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)They have paper ballots and hand count the votes. No cheat voting machines there AFAIK.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)lark
(23,094 posts)All votes counted by hand with representatives from both parties observing. The RW would hate this, they'd never win in a straight up election but rely on cheating always since they have the losing message.
[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]And video of every count, including introductions of the counters and observers. That would be the backup proof to resolve any dispute before it becomes a serious issue.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)DON'T vote for the FASCIST!!
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)PsychoBabble
(837 posts)This thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029027009
LePen denied opposing media access, so French MSM refused to cover LePen on election night.
Solidarity vs fear, profit motive.
USA media, might wanna get this clue ....
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)We would do well to adopt a much shorter election season and ban all commercials.
Everything has become about making a $ in this country. It's not good.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Agreed, very true.
former9thward
(31,984 posts)Political commercials can't be restricted.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Yes, we have the right, but the rights have turned in to capitalists making a buck from everything. Political commercials, drug commercials, unhealthy food commercials...on and on and on. We are inundated by advertising constantly to buy stuff... from politicians to cars to pills for erectile dysfunction (geeze, men are really obsessed with their dicks).
The longer the election season, the more money is made from making commercials and airing commercials. What purpose does that serve? Does it really benefit the political process? Are more people participating?
It's time to rethink the entire election process, IMO, from everything to how we vote, when we vote, how the votes are counted (and by whom) and in the instance of the presidential election, to get rid of the Electoral College, which is a relic from the days of slavery.
certainot
(9,090 posts)1) they united in the euro
2) their immigration problems are real - they are getting and going to get a lot more refugees from climate change than we are - our immigration 'problem' is a bunch of bullshit 1000 talk radio stations were used to create so rove and his successors could pass voter suppression legislation all over the country
3) because liberals ignore it, we have a talk radio monopoly blasting the country with lies and ignorance and authoritarian buzz making ignorant fascist assholes like trump president and selling voter suppression legislation on false pretexts like lots of illegal aliens are voting for dems
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)The results would have been much different in my opinion. Sanity prevails.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)especially when they found there were faked emails in there along with the genuine ones. Putin got clumsy and lost this round.
At last, one day I woke up to good news, Vive la France, indeed!
enid602
(8,614 posts)To be fair, the French also learned something from us. They saw what is happening with tRump, and decided they want nothing to do with it.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Would you like fries with that?
I hate to say it of such close allies,but part of me wishes that they were the guinea pigs.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)except hopefully #3 next round