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BRAD REED
08 MAY 2017 AT 10:01 ET
President Donald Trump has drawn a lot of criticism for his decision to lash out at former acting Attorney General Sally Yates on Monday, just hours before she was scheduled to testify about former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.
Appearing on CNN to talk about the presidents tweet in which he said that someone should ask Sally Yates, under oath, if she knows how classified information got into the newspapers soon after she explained it to W.H. Council (sic) legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said that Trumps behavior crosses the line of what we consider to be normal behavior for a politician in the United States.
It just shows how much the norms of behavior have changed, Toobin said. The idea of the President of the United States essentially threatening a witness, hes basically accusing her of leaking, we have never had that before. Weve never had presidents who did this kind of thing. The idea that the president the guy whos in charge of the Justice Department is threatening a witness is really kind of disturbing.
Yates was fired from her role as acting attorney general earlier this year after she refused to enforce the administrations proposed travel ban. She will reportedly testify on Monday afternoon that she gave the Trump administration warnings about Flynn possibly being compromised by the Russian government.
video:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/the-president-is-threatening-a-witness-cnn-analyst-slams-trumps-disturbing-sally-yates-tweets/
tblue37
(65,340 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)so it's ok. "Council" or "Counsel"? He doesn't know the difference. What a stoop.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...of "can't-bring-myself-to-say-it" alright.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)his republican Cabal of Crony Comrades as ReThuglicans.
* republican Draft-&-Truth Dodger-in-Chief.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... she'd be breaking by testifying. And waiving future attempts to claim it. He just said they could ask her about classified material, even.
Idiotic in more ways than one, but if the Administration tries complaints to the Bar Association after their original attempts to keep her from testifying failed... that Tweet released any claims of privileged communications.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... with a law degree from Trump University no less.
But we all know he has no law degree, so "anything he says can and will be used against him in court."
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)"kind of disturbing," it's extremely disturbing.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)How about totally unacceptable and probably impeachable.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Trump is just burying himself in more doo-doo.
Let's let him tweet and implicate himself in everything.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)The you know what is going to hit the fan.
The russian mess goes really deep.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The Steele dossier alleges that "the Trump campaign agreed to minimize US opposition to Russia's incursions into Ukraine." In July 2016, the Republican National Convention made changes to the Republican Party's platform on Ukraine: initially they proposed providing "lethal weapons" to Ukraine, but the line was changed to "appropriate assistance". J. D. Gordon, who was one of Trump's national security advisers during the campaign, said that he had advocated for changing language because that reflected what Trump had instructed.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Trump knows it too. He's running scared. It won't be long now.
Let him tweet any garbage he wants to, he's just implicating himself.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Putin played Trump.
I wonder what leaks Putin might leak.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Let's ask the GOP if this was all worth it. They sold out their country - for what?
Disgusting people, every one of them.
Game is not over yet.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Judging a wanna-be tinpot tyrant as if he isn't a wanna-be tinpot tyrant.
Oh, no! There he goes not doing the normal thing again!
There's nothing normal about Trump or his presidency and we should treat the wanna-be tinpot tyrant exactly like a tinpot tyrant - take the gloves off and come out swinging.
Stop calling him president. Say instead Trump and Trump only.
Once again Trump is trashing our democracy by behaving in a manner consistent with wanna-be tinpot tyrants.
No one is doing anyone any favors by pretending the man deserves any respect.
And if it is the "office" of president people are worried about then normalizing a tyrant ain't helping with that either.
"the norms of behavior" change only with consensus. Stop building the consensus.
VigilantG
(374 posts)There is absolutely nothing normal about that "man".
I wish he wasn't treated as such. The Presidency deserves respect. Trump deserves nothing.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Trump not only does NOT deserve respect, he deserves contempt. He has trashed the Office of the President. And for that, he
deserves nothing but contempt.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)VigilantG
(374 posts)Thank you!
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)gademocrat7
(10,656 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)Someone told me "even if you don't respect the man, you should respect the office of the presidency". I said "it is precisely because I respect the office that I so disrespect the Orange shit-stain squatting there". They waved a hand at me as they walked off. I don't think I made a breakthrough with them. Oh well.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)and a poor act at that. The media seems bent on portraying this mess as a kid's bunch of toy plastic soldiers. There's an expectation that the one carrying a bazooka is going to shoot at the opposing figures. But when the Bazooka toter turns and starts shooting at his own, the media simply takes this unexplained anomaly as just another day on the battlefield....... "Well! This is different. Our own guy has turned his weapon on his comrades - I'll bet that eventually, we'll all recognize his strategy and just accept it as the way a crafty comrade should conduct himself in the pursuit of a victory."
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)Their musing of how things have "changed" is complete bullshit as they know that this behavior is completely inconsistent with the expectations of the Office of the President.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Sally Yates knew what she was talking about, had classified information that she then shared with the White House counsel (someone as familiar with attorneys as Trump really should know which word to use). Then the information leaks. So, Yates has the information. Has it. Has it. Has it. Has it. Nobody knows about it. The media don't have any idea. Then Yates talks to the White House counsel, and hey presto! the information gets out.
What is the reasonable conclusion? That Yates had this information for who knows how long, but only decided to leak it after consulting with the White House? Or did the White House leak because the amateurs running the place didn't and don't have any idea how to handle classified information?
Interesting, though, that CNN isn't trying to convolute itself into some kind of logic pretzel to explain what Trump "really" meant by his Tweet. That's different from what has been going on for the last 100 days.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)are so inconvenient, says the administration that pushes "alternative facts."
I hope Sally Yates watches her back. I put nothing beyond this evil bunch.
"Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?" --Henry II, referring to Thomas Becket.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)For this stain on humanity.
niyad
(113,284 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Link to tweet
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512
(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the objects integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or
(3) hinder, delay, or prevent the communication to a law enforcement officer or judge of the United States of information relating to the commission or possible commission of a Federal offense or a violation of conditions of probation [1] supervised release,,[1] parole, or release pending judicial proceedings;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)He owns the justice system so of course not a damn thing will be done.
We are in big trouble with these criminals.
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)Orrex
(63,208 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)deplorables and even the secret service couldnt protect them at that point.
Our country is completely over with. The media created two standards, one was the bottom of the garbage can behind the dirtiest restaurant in town, republicans, and one was a 5 star restaurant at the top of the mark, democrats.
All republicans have to do to be considered legitimate is not shit their pants while they talk.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)From first word to last.
And if Trump farted when he talked, he'd blame it on Obama. Or probably Clinton, and the press would run with it:
"Opinions differ as to who actually farted, with the President insisting that it was Hillary Clinton."
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)but I like your scenario with both
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)And is still considered respectable in some circles - sufficiently so to be invited to the White House.
You may have to lower the bar a bit further.
HurricaneWarning
(220 posts)But the shitting in the pants thing can most likely be attributed to Trump since he is the one that appears lumpy in the rear due to ill fitting Depends.
Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)For all their BS about Obama violating the Constitution, they really have no clue that it applies equally to everybody.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)to the "other."
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Dammit I'm tired of having a tinpot third world dictator in the white house!
C Moon
(12,212 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)It just shows how much the norms of behavior have changed, That is an acceptance to that kind of behaviour, first off these are not "norms", on the contrary it is all abnormal, and thus must be treated as such, it cannot be accepted.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)It is like the media refused to use the term, "lie" for a year, when there were outrageous, damned lies, not misstatements. Geez, the Repubs are so much more aggressive, while we almost apologize for telling the truth. Then, DT threatens a witness, and instead of calling it what it is, well, standards are changing...amazing this is normal.
It is the angry pit bulls v the sweet little kittens. We all love the kittens, but they get taken advantage of.
onetexan
(13,040 posts)And nonprofits such as the ACLU to file a lawsuit against this man for trying to figure intimidate ms. Yates & just him for good. Jeff Tobin is right, what he did is criminal.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)...including his family of little stupid mobsters.
Initech
(100,068 posts)benpollard
(199 posts)tiptonic
(765 posts)Comrad 'Benedict donald'.
Cha
(297,188 posts)Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But, yeah.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)...to explain why he is so surrounded by people with ties to the Kremlin.
Hekate
(90,673 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)The GOP Congress, that is, refuses to prosecute or investigate him for any transgressions, no matter how traitorous. Then again, it seems quite a few of them got their funding via Mitch McConnell's SuperPAC, which was funded by a Russian businessman.
SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)Excuse me, "presidentS"? There is only ONE "president" that I know of, who threatened a witness about to testify. His name is Donald Trump. Of course 'Don-the-Con' believes he's above the law, and that "normal behavior" has no place in his lexicon.
We hear Trump's supporters proudly say, "he's a different kind of President". That starts with him being a different kind of "human being". He is completely devoid of compassion for others, incurious, (even for a normal human being, let alone the leader of what used to be known as "the free world" ,and dumber than a sack of hair. Yes, Trump is a "different kind of president" alright. Different doesn't actually mean BETTER, though. This type of "different," we (the U.S. of A. and the rest of the world) can do without.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Hell, he should be arrested and charged with threatening a witness, and held in NYC with no bail....
riversedge
(70,204 posts)Ignatz Retweeted
Kaivan Shroff? @KaivanShroff 3h3 hours ago
Once they got too close to uncovering the truth about #TrumpRussia, they were fired:
Sally Yates
Preet Bharara
James Comey
Link to tweet
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)It doesn't matter who gets fired, Trump is going down. They've got him 9 ways to Sunday.
The problem is politics, the GOP is still the party in power and they won't impeach him.
The FBI, NSA and CIA all have the goods on him. Trump's a criminal and a traitor. Comey wasn't such a great FBI director anyway. Trump is so desperate now, it's obvious even to the GOP that he's toast.
All the stuff that Sally Yates and Clapper couldn't talk about yesterday - they've got enough to bury him.
We need a special independent prosecutor post haste.