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by Matthew Balan | 9:50 am, May 8th, 2017
On Mondays Fox and Friends, Condoleezza Rice criticized efforts to tear down statues and monuments to U.S. historical figures who owned slaves.
When you start wiping out your history sanitizing your history to make you feel better, its a bad thing, Rice said.
Host Brian Kilmeade noted that Rice started out her new book, Democracy, by writing about the U.S. Constitution. He wondered, As an African-American woman, do you see yourself in this constitution? Do you think that, when we look at nine of our first twelve presidents as slave owners, should we start taking their statues down and say, were embarrassed by you?
Rice replied, Im a firm believer in keep your history before you. And so, I dont actually want to rename things that were named for slave owners. The former secretary of state continued, I want us to have to look at the names and recognize what they did; and be able to tell our kids what they did and for them to have a sense of their own history.
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/sanitizing-history-condoleezza-rice-slams-attempts-to-remove-slave-owners-monuments/
fuck her and the oil tanker she slithered in on.
longship
(40,416 posts)2naSalit
(86,562 posts)spanone
(135,827 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Let's keep our history before us, and recall that Rice remains complicit in some of the biggest lies ever told by anyone, anywhere.
ck4829
(35,062 posts)Only one side here has sanitized history in that region.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . . . like our almost perpetual involvement in war, slavery, the eradication of Native Americans, corporate crimes, Corporate America's constant attacks on the poor, the Cold War, misogyny and sexism, the violence towards the LGBTQI community, the shredding of the social contract and social safety net, etc. etc.
. . . mostly because we want to keep on committing those sins. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)the Swastika over the Zeppelin Stadium?
It is symbol of Germany's history.
kairos12
(12,853 posts)sleptwalk toward 9/11.
angrychair
(8,695 posts)Lifting them up by giving them monuments and naming schools or roads or buildings after them sends the wrong message to our kids and those new citizens to our country.
We can talk about them and what they did without glorifying them. Those monuments should be to the slaves and poor and disadvantaged on whose back this new nation was built on.
Why are so many of our monuments to war, death and the wealthy and so little to our scientists, writers and thinkers?
It goes to a fundamental flaw in our core values as a nation.
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)Nothing is being "destroyed"; such monuments are being relocated to more appropriate venues available for all to see, along with other relics of history.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)...and there are more photos to choose from to turn into monuments.
Cause, you know, she wouldn't want history to be sanitized. (snortcoughchokespittlespew)
Monuments to history are one thing. A monument(s) that celebrates the oppressor is another.
You can teach the history of slavery without celebrating the slave owners.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)The victims of America's torture will never forget.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)she is basically making that the argument that it is a bad thing to sanitize revisionist history.
Not sure that I buy that....not sure that I don't either I guess.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)One does not need to celebrate history's monsters in order to remember the evil they did.
2naSalit
(86,562 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)Retrograde
(10,133 posts)like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe - even Jackson - for their roles in shaping the United States, and honoring people like Jefferson Davis, Nathan Bedford Forrest, PT Beauregard, and Robert E. Lee who actively fought to dissolve the union and maintain a culture which treated some people like chattel. The Confederates were traitors per the Constitution.
If Washington and Lee University wants to erect a statue to one of its presidents, Robert E. Lee, I think that would be OK. If the Pentagon wants to erect statues of all former Secretaries of War/Defense and that includes Jefferson Davis, ok, that puts him in a historical context. But statues or other monuments based solely on their role in the rebellion is where I draw the line: they were erected to promote white supremacy and I had hoped we were beyond that by now.
Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)Kudos.
renegade000
(2,301 posts)Have to harp on all the buzz words like "states rights" and "local rule" and not draw attention to the whole economy based on racial subjugation and human slavery bit.