What did General Flynn do?

[milestogo]

[Mr. Ected]

1. Something problematic. So problematic that it's classified information

That's why we are not permitted to know that yet. Per Sally Yates.

[milestogo]

3. This is so frustrating.

When do the American people have a right to know? How long is this investigation going to be "ongoing"?

[Eyeball_Kid]

27. We've heard the story of what he did from public information.

Remember all of those stories about a quid pro quo? Russia will help with the election if Trumpy helps Russia by lifting sanctions. That's likely the crux of the matter. A deal like this makes sense from all that's been available to read. Those four or five phone calls made by Flynn to the Russ Ambassador on one day-- after Obama imposed further sanctions-- were about the quid pro quo. Flynn gave Kislyak assurances that Trumpy would lift the sanctions.

Flynn is also reportedly the coordinator of nationalist/fascist movements throughout the EU and UK, on behalf of Putin. That comes from those damned twitter threads that pop up on Mensch's feed. But it makes a bit of sense, based upon what's commonly understood about Flynn's range of behavior.

[elfin]

2. They may have him on tape promising together the sanctions lifted in exchange for mega-money.

But that would take some time to develop, so it must have sounded like a much more immediate threat.

Very intriguing to say the least.

[Eyeball_Kid]

11. IMO, this is it. But...

Mensch is also onto other information... that Flynn was coordinating nationalist movements all throughout Europe on Putin's behalf.

[atreides1]

4. In short

Flynn failed to list his foreign contacts while attempting to get a security clearance, by failing to do so on the SF-86 form, whether deliberately or by omission is considered to be a felony!

This could be the reason that the FBI didn't offer Flynn a deal about a month ago! They already have him committing a felony by not filling out the SF-86 truthfully!

[milestogo]

6. I get the feeling its worse than that.

What was the nature of those foreign contacts?

[elehhhhna]

13. Also packing the department with his minions, who are still there by the way

[elehhhhna]

14. There are all those dead Russian foreign assets 12 now right

[Adsos Letter]

26. That's what I've wondered.

Did someone on Trump's team out some of those guys to the Russians?

[Generic Brad]

5. Maybe he's the one who peed on Trump in the alleged video!

That would be a twist!

[Kaleva]

9. I can picture him wearing a blonde wig and leather

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Worst. Porno. Ever.

[lapfog_1]

7. Pretty sure that he is a traitor.

and consorted with other traitors to collude with the Russians to throw the election (and elements of the FBI, apparently).

But that is speculation at this point.

What we know he did was to operate as a foreign agent with declaring so... and to take money from foreign governments or their agencies (RT for example) without getting permission. Both for Turkey and for Russia.

In addition, he appears to have lied about this to someone from the government (possibly, unless those people also KNEW about his Russia contacts and THEY subsequently lied about his conversations with them to the media and the American public).

[JudyM]

8. If only those on the right actually viewed colluding with Russia - for their benefit - traitorous.

It's only about how much they can get for themselves. No honor. No apparent morals.

[Eyeball_Kid]

12. They have to grow a pair.

They're a cowardly lot.

But that may change in time. They're getting hit hard by their constituents.

[JudyM]

17. Cowardly, yes, that too. Primarily, selfish, greedy and actually soulless, based on their actions.

[safeinOhio]

10. What was the date of those

5 phone calls to Russia in one day?

[John Lee Pettimore]

15. Dec 29

This was the day that our REAL president expelled 35 Russian spies and imposed sanctions on Russia. Of course our FAKE president claims this is fake news.

[spanone]

16. Flynn probably broke the law by failing to disclose foreign payments, House Oversight leaders say

The lead Democrat and Republican on the House Oversight Committee meted out a rare bipartisan rebuke of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn on Tuesday after seeing private information that confirmed the former administration official failed to disclose foreign income from Russia and Turkey.

[Flynn did not initially reveal income from Russia-related entities]

The public criticism by the senior Republican on the House’s chief investigative panel is unusual and presents a dilemma for the White House, which was accused of failing to provide everything the committee asked for — an assertion White House press secretary Sean Spicer disputed.

Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) and the panel’s ranking Democrat, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.), suggested that Flynn broke the law. Flynn was ousted in February after misleading Vice President Pence about his contacts with the Russian ambassador.

The lawmakers said they believe Flynn neither received permission nor fully disclosed income he earned for a speaking engagement in Russia and lobbying activities on behalf of Turkey. They reached the conclusion after viewing two classified memos and a disclosure form in a private briefing Tuesday morning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/flynn-likely-broke-the-law-by-failing-to-disclose-foreign-payments-house-committee-says/2017/04/25/249fc22c-29cc-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.5d7bd607d2c1

[mshasta]

18. He brought dishonor to he's country

And disgrace to the uniform of the US Army and everything that we stand for.



Shame on him

[GeorgeGist]

19. He tied his wagon to Putin.

[moondust]

20. "underlying conduct"

Rachel was all over this phrase used several times at the hearing but she couldn't get anybody to tell her what that means because it's classified. I'm guessing the FBI has evidence of more compromising behavior by Flynn that nobody has leaked to the media. Yet.

I'm also guessing that a possible motive for Flynn doing this stuff was payback for being fired by President Obama and for some people at DIA not supporting him. Joining the racist, Obama-hating Trump and helping him win by any means was his revenge.

[L. Coyote]

21. He lied about having communications with Russians before he was a government official.

As a private citizen, he was undermining the government of the United States (Obama) and interfering in foreign affairs. And he lied about it to the public, as did trump and Pence.

The interesting thing is he likely did all this illegal stuff at the behest of trump and Pence. But they fired him for lying to them, the pretense being that trump and Pence could not possibly have known anything illegal was going on or that they would in any way condone making a deal with the Russians before being sworn in.

The fall of Michael Flynn: A timeline

Here’s a timeline of what we know about national security adviser Michael Flynn, his contacts with Russia and his resignation. We will continue to update it as more information becomes available.

Dec. 29, 2016
Obama administration action
The Obama administration announces measures against Russia in retaliation for what U.S. officials characterized as interference in the 2016 election, ordering the expulsion of Russian “intelligence operatives” and slapping new sanctions on state agencies and individuals suspected in the hacks of U.S. computer systems.

Russian response
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announces 35 U.S. diplomats will be declared persona non grata. “We, of course, cannot leave unanswered the insults of the kind; reciprocity is the law of diplomacy and foreign relations,” Lavrov says. “Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry and officials of other authorities have suggested the Russian president to announce 31 personnel of the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and four diplomats from the Consulate General in St. Petersburg persona non grata.”

Incoming Trump administration response
Flynn speaks by phone with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak, and discusses the sanctions and suggests the possibility of sanctions relief once Trump is president. The call is monitored by U.S. intelligence agencies.

Dec. 30
Russian government action
In a surprise, Russian President Vladimir Putin announces in a statement that Russia will not take action against the sanctions.
“As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind,” Putin says. ..................

Link to tweet

[milestogo]

22. Trump and Pence are in it up to their eyeballs.

At this point they have lied so much that its impossible to believe anything they say. I am dreaming of the day they perp walk the whole administration.

[L. Coyote]

23. Either that or Flynn was the acting president-elect. LOL.

[Iggo]

24. Lied about being foreign agent. (n/t)

[duncang]

25. You have to have a score card

As reported in the news some of the things he may be guilty of.

Logan act by talking to russians about sanctions
Accepting money from russia with out permission
Accepting money from Turkey with out permission
Not disclosing afterward on security clearance form either so 2 counts there
Not disclosing meeting with russians
Not disclosing meeting with turkey about possibly kidnapping the cleric
Plotting to kidnap someone during that meeting
Acting as a lobbyist with out registering as one

He called Russian Ambassador Kislyak the same day President Obama announced sanctions against russia. There could be another logan act violation for a second time.

[sharedvalues]

28. Mensch : he coordinated global propaganda with money from Russia

He goin down

[Hoyt]

29. So far nothing that implicates Trump in election tampering. That's why this won't get Trump

unless something comes up new, like Trump ordered Flynn to get as much as he could for favors to be delivered. I don't think there is evidence of that, but you never know.