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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:17 AM May 2017

Trump just deleted every single press-release he made as a candidate.

http://gizmodo.com/president-trump-deletes-every-old-press-release-but-th-1795042808

Yesterday, journalists discovered that the Trump regime had deleted the president’s infamous press release from 2015 that called for a ban on all Muslims traveling to the United States. But it wasn’t just the Muslim ban. Every single press release from before January 1, 2017 has been erased from donaldjtrump.com. Thankfully, the internet never forgets.

As Russ Kick from the website Memory Hole notes, every Trump/Pence 2016 campaign press release that was deleted this week has been backed up by the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine. It’s almost impossible to completely erase something from the internet these days—for better and for worse.


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For instance, you can still read Trump’s original December 7, 2015 press release that starts with the unambiguous call to ban all Muslims from entering the US:

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"When we win on November 8th, and elect a Republican Congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. I will ask Congress to convene a special session."

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There’s also “Donald J. Trump’s New Deal For Black America,” which includes his 10-point “plan for urban renewal. Number three would be especially interesting for anyone who’s paid attention to the track record of Trump’s Attorney General Jeff Sessions:

3. Equal Justice Under the Law. We will apply the law fairly, equally and without prejudice. There will be only one set of rules – not a two-tiered system of justice. Equal justice also means the same rules for Wall Street.

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And how about Trump’s April 5, 2016 press release with his repeated promise to get Mexico to pay for a wall at the US-Mexico border?

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And don’t forget Trump’s October 18, 2016 press release promising to propose a Constitutional Amendment to set up term limits on members of Congress. We haven’t heard about that one in quite a while.
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Trump just deleted every single press-release he made as a candidate. (Original Post) DetlefK May 2017 OP
Wow, the republican Ministry of Truthiness is busy, busy, busy Achilleaze May 2017 #1
doubleplusgood! progressoid May 2017 #12
Thing is Cirque du So-What May 2017 #30
45, or whoever did this forgotmylogin May 2017 #37
+100 workinclasszero May 2017 #48
Too late...there are multiple copies. Demsrule86 May 2017 #2
Yeah, as a lot of people can attest gratuitous May 2017 #16
Sounds like the reaction from someone who has lawyered up. Baitball Blogger May 2017 #3
oh please, oh please, oh please. mopinko May 2017 #4
Term limits? Scarsdale May 2017 #5
If they ever passed anything on term limits... SeattleVet May 2017 #33
The Muslim Ban press release came up yesterday during the hearing on the travel ban... Princess Turandot May 2017 #25
Nothing better than facts to work with. Baitball Blogger May 2017 #26
Once on the internet. Demtexan May 2017 #6
Trump might shut that thing down. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #41
He is running scared. Demtexan May 2017 #51
No tweets GeorgeGist May 2017 #65
That was facetious, but all it takes is one ICE/NSA raid. Crash2Parties May 2017 #57
I know, I was playing along, linking to it. That's the concern why they mirror their site in Canada. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #59
Brings up an interesting point.. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #60
how is it that not a single puke, rwnj, general asshole seems to understand that once it is out niyad May 2017 #7
+1, uponit7771 May 2017 #9
Exactly DownriverDem May 2017 #15
How the internet works? Mr.Bill May 2017 #40
Of course they do, it' s series of tubes n/t hibbing May 2017 #46
Microwaved tubes man Wawannabe May 2017 #49
Coherent thought is beyond them (n/t) PJMcK May 2017 #32
"cache" is our friend! eom Tanuki May 2017 #8
I suspect that the Wayback Machine will itself be cached. mwooldri May 2017 #21
I thought that was already taking place at a location in Canada Hekate May 2017 #52
If I did that, it would be obstruction of justice Orrex May 2017 #10
As every teen w/a nudie photo on FB can attest, once it's out there, it's out there forever. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #11
Mr Trump, meet the Wayback Machine Hekate May 2017 #13
Hope Wawannabe May 2017 #50
Really deleted? DownriverDem May 2017 #14
hey, even my lame "recovery" program would probably work. did they scrub the hard drive? niyad May 2017 #17
They really can't be that stoopy... right? procon May 2017 #18
He's an idiot, doing things that idiots do. Carry on, IDIOTUS, carry on. Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #19
Screen Grab Trumps Mr. Pussy Grab Zambero May 2017 #20
The spin on this should be interesting once Spicey is asked about it... NoMoreRepugs May 2017 #22
Next, he'll pull out all the wires in the White House Mr. Ected May 2017 #23
Isn't trump supposed to be working on a Tuesday. I know Tuesday isn't golf day. L. Coyote May 2017 #24
How dumb can one Trump go? C_U_L8R May 2017 #27
Of course His Orange Shitness Mr. Evil May 2017 #28
Yup, he hasn't a clue how things work.... Historic NY May 2017 #31
Trump thinks this will cover it up? bucolic_frolic May 2017 #29
Well, it does delete it for his dumbass followers who only look to him for facts. nt SunSeeker May 2017 #34
Donald Trump's "campaign" for a second term... hunter May 2017 #35
Man, does he really think you can just simply delete something on tge internet? AgadorSparticus May 2017 #36
Now...you have hit it..........."special stupid" yes indeed... Stuart G May 2017 #39
The Internet never forgets NT Adrahil May 2017 #38
Wayback Machine appears to be a shill for the Trump campaign? Mountain Mule May 2017 #42
I don't think you understand what the Wayback machine is. Ms. Toad May 2017 #54
Thank you, Ms. Toad! Mountain Mule May 2017 #61
It's extremely helpful if you need to find documents that were once posted online Ms. Toad May 2017 #62
The most corrupt Administration in history, by a long shot. nt Blue_true May 2017 #43
don't forget all the crazy Republican claims in 2015/2016-were also covered in WH pressers questions Sunlei May 2017 #44
I read about this in a book about animals on a farm IronLionZion May 2017 #45
Erase this BLOTUS Trump! workinclasszero May 2017 #47
follow the tweet. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #53
Trump made a lot of promises... documented 663 of them keithbvadu2 May 2017 #55
And this is why I give $5 to the Internet Archive every month. nt Susan Calvin May 2017 #56
I'm sure The Memory samplegirl May 2017 #58
So, the JA still doesn't realize there are video tapes and they're in every news network's library? napi21 May 2017 #63
This is a stronger indication of fRump's imminent demise than any news report. lindysalsagal May 2017 #64

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Wow, the republican Ministry of Truthiness is busy, busy, busy
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:25 AM
May 2017

burying facts and documents, so that new, improved Big Republican Lies can live in degenerate ignominy.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
37. 45, or whoever did this
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:26 PM
May 2017

Probably think they're so smart and clever. "Where did you get those releases? Those aren't our releases, as you can see, they're not on our website..."

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. Term limits?
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:55 AM
May 2017

He can not do that, or the gop will abandon him. All the old goats like McCain, McConnel, Graham and a host of others would be horrified if they lost their do nothing, get paid plenty jobs. McConnell's wife got a position in the administration, then refused to allow a SC vote. Will Cindy McCain get the job they are talking about for her, to keep little lumpy Johnny onboard? Follow the $$$ and the appointments to get to the truth. Can anyone remind me when Ivanka tRump was elected to office? Seems she is in on everything. Is she there to keep daddy placated, or what?

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
33. If they ever passed anything on term limits...
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:03 PM
May 2017

you can bet your ass that anyone who was in office when it went into effect would be grandfathered in and exempt from the new restrictions. It's the way that they always do these things.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
25. The Muslim Ban press release came up yesterday during the hearing on the travel ban...
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:50 PM
May 2017

at the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. One of the justices asked if the document was still available. The plaintiffs' attorney said it was still online, likely because he didn't know that it had been, or was about to be deleted by Trump.

I think the deletions across the board likely related to the above.

BTW, the Muslim Ban release has been captured by the Internet Archive nearly 750 times since 12/2016. They have a feature which allows a user to simply request that they archive the document again at any point in time. (They keep all archived copies.) It was archived 5 times yesterday; it was on the third capture that the information was revealed to having been blanked out.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
51. He is running scared.
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

Of course it would crash everything but I do not think they care.

No internet no banking or selling.

No hotel reservations.

Damn.

Bring the whole country to a stop.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
57. That was facetious, but all it takes is one ICE/NSA raid.
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:58 PM
May 2017

(or just remove them from the DNS)

No day in court, no paper trail, no accountability. That's how DMCA raids work. Entire server farms simply...disappear. Like this was Russia, or something.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
60. Brings up an interesting point..
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:04 PM
May 2017

How many police/ICE/etc agencies will respond to any of Trump's orders now that he has fired people for standing up to him?

niyad

(113,259 posts)
7. how is it that not a single puke, rwnj, general asshole seems to understand that once it is out
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:02 PM
May 2017

there, in print, online, on video, etc. SOMEBODY has it. somebody took a screen shot, dumped it into a file, etc.

technology is, apparently, beyond them.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
21. I suspect that the Wayback Machine will itself be cached.
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:41 PM
May 2017

Just in case its owners get a takedown request.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
52. I thought that was already taking place at a location in Canada
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:15 PM
May 2017

That is, if I recall one of Rachel's broadcasts correctly. The owners/operators were getting the vibe pretty strongly.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. As every teen w/a nudie photo on FB can attest, once it's out there, it's out there forever.
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:17 PM
May 2017

They were "press" releases. The press has them, as a starting place. Then add to that hundreds of other internet sites and newspapers and other media.

Trump is learning that he can't escape from his past.

Of course, he'll use the lack of his official release to claim, "That's fake news! I didn't say that!"

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. They really can't be that stoopy... right?
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:32 PM
May 2017

They must have some smart people working in IT that would tell them they can't undo what the Intertubes haz wrought, and surely the PR dept must have warned them that the optics would feed several more news cycles that will heap still more criticisms on Trump's floundering efforts to make himself appear like a real precedent.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
28. Of course His Orange Shitness
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:58 PM
May 2017

is stupid enough to believe that by deleting all of this material it is gone forever and no one can call him out on any of it.
What I would really love (in a perfect world) is if a hacker took all of the deleted material and put it back where it all was.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
29. Trump thinks this will cover it up?
Tue May 9, 2017, 12:59 PM
May 2017

Seriously?

Maybe he should pile some more orange hair on it, we still don't know
what's under there

hunter

(38,310 posts)
35. Donald Trump's "campaign" for a second term...
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:22 PM
May 2017

... is nothing more than a tool for accepting bribes and fleecing his ignorant flock.

He really doesn't care how deleting this material looks to anyone else.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
36. Man, does he really think you can just simply delete something on tge internet?
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:25 PM
May 2017

What kind of special stupid is this?

Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
39. Now...you have hit it..........."special stupid" yes indeed...
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:46 PM
May 2017

These people are not just stupid....they are........... special stupid..........

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
42. Wayback Machine appears to be a shill for the Trump campaign?
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:56 PM
May 2017

I clicked on Gizmodo's link for Wayback Machine, and the site came up festooned with dumpf propaganda. If they continue to archive material that dolt 45 deems as best forgotten, won't they just delete it there, as well?

Source:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170428091433/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases

Ms. Toad

(34,061 posts)
54. I don't think you understand what the Wayback machine is.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

The wayback machine continuously crawls the web, archiving every page it finds. It isn't a shill for the Trump campaign, anymore than it is a shill for the Hillary Clinton campaign. https://web.archive.org/web/20160425080015/https://www.hillaryclinton.com/

Trump can't delete his old pages from there, since he doesn't own it.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
61. Thank you, Ms. Toad!
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:16 PM
May 2017

No, I hadn't understood what it was. I didn't have the time to do more than glance at it briefly. Now that I've gotten a chance to look it over properly, I see what it is. Thanks!


(silly me!)

Ms. Toad

(34,061 posts)
62. It's extremely helpful if you need to find documents that were once posted online
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:24 PM
May 2017

but have vanished.

I have used it extensively both in patent prosecution/invalidity opinions to establish whether something was new or not - and in litigation when the timing of events mattered.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
44. don't forget all the crazy Republican claims in 2015/2016-were also covered in WH pressers questions
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:02 PM
May 2017

The press asked Obama White House many,many questions about the Republican party candidates crazy wall claims and Republicans Muslim ban 'ideas'.

100s of press questions about the Russian hackings of DNC, 72 hour deportation of 55? Russian buddies of Republicans and other email account hackings are all documented in permanent government archived records.

Mr. Trump should really read the last couple months of DAILY pressers our past Admin. had.

Mr. Trump should really study from the entire old White House website, the current Republican controlled WH website is so obviously full of bullshit lies and cons.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
63. So, the JA still doesn't realize there are video tapes and they're in every news network's library?
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:08 AM
May 2017

That's like the criminal who deletes all his emails, not recognizing that many IT security folks are still able to extract those deleted files from the hard drive. He must be so scared of what the investigation is going to find, his brain isn't capable of thinking at all.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
64. This is a stronger indication of fRump's imminent demise than any news report.
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:19 AM
May 2017

He's so stupid, he incriminates himself with every word. Moron.

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