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MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:43 PM May 2017

Precedent Trump Issues Executive Order Shutting Down Archive.org

President Donald Trump today issued an Executive Order that will rid the world of archive.org, that repository of everything that has been public on the Internet since shortly after its beginnings. In comments at the signing ceremony, he stated, "Nobody needs to go look at old stuff on the Internet. There's plenty to see that is current. Many people are embarrassed at things they put online, so why should those things be thrown in their face weeks or months later? We don't need this, so I'm shutting it down, believe me! About time, too."

Questions have already been raised regarding the First Amendment and about whether a President can actually legally engage in such censorship. Some are saying that Trump is just trying to hide the stupid things he has said, lies he has told, and promises he has made that he has no intention of keeping. President Trump dismissed this, as voiced by his press secretary, Sean Spicer, who said late this afternoon: "The President has nothing to hide. He's an open book. He says everything that comes into his mind immediately, as you all know. Why should everything he, or anyone else for that matter, has ever said live forever in some stupid archive? This is not about President Trump, so stop saying that. It's fake news! You media people should only be interested in what the President says next, not what he said at some time in the past. Give us a break, folks!"

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Precedent Trump Issues Executive Order Shutting Down Archive.org (Original Post) MineralMan May 2017 OP
Note: "Precedent" was intentional... MineralMan May 2017 #1
Fucking awesome! TheBlackAdder May 2017 #2
CAn he do that? I thought it was a 501(c)(3) non-profit library KewlKat May 2017 #3
He's the Precedent, after all. MineralMan May 2017 #5
Can he do that? MontanaMama May 2017 #4
Seriously? No. MineralMan May 2017 #6
You seriously gave me a panic attack. MontanaMama May 2017 #24
Didn't they set up a secondary library in Canada for this reason? Hortensis May 2017 #7
Shh. Trump might shut off the Internet to Canada. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #8
Lol. Actually, how could Rump do this? Archive.org is private, Hortensis May 2017 #10
Legally? I'm not sure if there are any laws anymore, at least ones that don't benefit Trump. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #13
Sigh and lol. Not enough sport in making fools of conservatives? Hortensis May 2017 #15
My company sends emails to employees to see if they can be fooled into clicking on fake links. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #18
Good for them. I don't have that backup. Last week I filled out a Hortensis May 2017 #22
Psst... MineralMan May 2017 #9
You're bad! Apparently some vestigial conservative Hortensis May 2017 #11
Oooh...when's dinner? MineralMan May 2017 #14
EST here, so in about 4 hours. I do make good red beans and rice, Hortensis May 2017 #17
You're talking about a guy who has already done and said far more crazy shit than this. Kentonio May 2017 #12
I cannot help myself. I beg your forgiveness. MineralMan May 2017 #16
Most comedians have said its actually a terrible time for political comedy Kentonio May 2017 #19
Well, I admit that it's easy to write something satirical that MineralMan May 2017 #20
Well its not really satire if what you say is actually completely believable. Kentonio May 2017 #23
Trump saved Trevor Noah. Colbert's ratings are through the roof. Dennis Miller is probably pissed. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #21
Good thing! Petrushka May 2017 #25
And book burnings will be held sometime next week. democratisphere May 2017 #26
The equivalent of a modern day paper shredder. dreamland May 2017 #27
And on a related precedential matter... Princess Turandot May 2017 #28

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
5. He's the Precedent, after all.
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:50 PM
May 2017

I'm sure he can do anything. Or he's sure he can do anything. Or something like that. Otherwise, he'd be "Unprecedented."

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
4. Can he do that?
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:49 PM
May 2017

I'm serious folks, can he DO THAT? W. T. F. ????? I'm more alarmed about this than anything having to do with Russia.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
6. Seriously? No.
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:51 PM
May 2017

At least, I don't think so. The Donald, though, has extraordinary powers. He's just that amazing, don't you agree?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Didn't they set up a secondary library in Canada for this reason?
Tue May 9, 2017, 01:56 PM
May 2017

Of course if Rump continues it'll be fought in the courts, and this fascist impulse will be stomped on. 2018, here we come!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Lol. Actually, how could Rump do this? Archive.org is private,
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:04 PM
May 2017

not government. Are we talking about the same organization?

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
13. Legally? I'm not sure if there are any laws anymore, at least ones that don't benefit Trump.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:09 PM
May 2017

We're just having fun here with a MM satire post.

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
18. My company sends emails to employees to see if they can be fooled into clicking on fake links.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:15 PM
May 2017

.


Then, folks get spanked for being duped by them.

It trains everyone to suspect everything and not assume things are what they appear.

.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Good for them. I don't have that backup. Last week I filled out a
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:24 PM
May 2017

"government" form that lacked the secure notation in the address as a first clue that something was very wrong. My husband and son got to spend hours cleaning that up. We hope.

Itm, I'm trying to train myself, without the slap (my guys are nice), into scrutinizing site info and URLs for deception.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. You're bad! Apparently some vestigial conservative
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:07 PM
May 2017

impulse leaped to accept the worst and only after a while did this move on from my emotional center for rational analysis. Just hope the delay until "huh?" kicked in was due to slicing Andouille into a pot of beans. Not a multitasker these days.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. EST here, so in about 4 hours. I do make good red beans and rice,
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
May 2017

and you guys'd certainly be welcome any time.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
12. You're talking about a guy who has already done and said far more crazy shit than this.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:08 PM
May 2017

Don't freak us out like this please.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
16. I cannot help myself. I beg your forgiveness.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:13 PM
May 2017

Trump is a walking, breathing satire generator. A bottomless source of potential ridicule. A veritable artesian well of satirical possibilities.

I fear I cannot stop...

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
19. Most comedians have said its actually a terrible time for political comedy
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

There's very little room left for hyperbole and satire when real life events are wildly extreme and ridiculous already.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
20. Well, I admit that it's easy to write something satirical that
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:18 PM
May 2017

is taken as truth these days. I may have to start being less subtle, I suppose.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
23. Well its not really satire if what you say is actually completely believable.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:25 PM
May 2017

To be funny it needs people to feel slightly silly afterwards for having fallen for the story.

dreamland

(964 posts)
27. The equivalent of a modern day paper shredder.
Tue May 9, 2017, 06:05 PM
May 2017

Let's put all those dumb statements through the shredder now! Still, I wonder if there is something on the internet that he is afraid of being exposed that we haven't found yet. I wouldn't put anything past these crooks.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
28. And on a related precedential matter...
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:39 AM
May 2017

There's now actual precedent in several federal courts for the Wayback Machine's webpage copies being allowed into evidence. The US patent office also allows it to be used as evidence of, err, important patent stuff.

It's an outrage! Activist judges strike again!

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