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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:38 PM May 2017

Obama Just Revealed The Sad Truth About Whos Really To Blame For Trump

President Obama, in keeping with tradition, has resisted the no doubt overwhelming urge to blast his incompetent successor. He has taken some oblique shots at Trump, like when he said the Affordable Care Act is “more popular than the current president.” Outside of subtle jabs though, he has remained relatively silent on the man who stands opposed to all the values he holds dear.

It seems Obama is slowly moving towards more active resistance to Trump’s disastrous policies. Today, at a food innovation summit in Milan, without making explicit reference to Donald Trump, Obama urged global citizens to action:

“People have a tendency to blame politicians when things don’t work, but as I always tell people, you get the politicians you deserve. And if you don’t vote and you don’t pay attention, you’ll get policies that don’t reflect your interest.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/05/09/obama-just-revealed-sad-truth-whos-really-blame-trump/

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Obama Just Revealed The Sad Truth About Whos Really To Blame For Trump (Original Post) mfcorey1 May 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca May 2017 #1
Well, to be fair, he can't talk about election fraud and TrumpRussia, so... Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #2
Why not? nt marybourg May 2017 #3
Because of the investigation? Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #6
The former President is a private citizen, marybourg May 2017 #9
Yes indeed! Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #11
Former presidents get security briefings if they want them Seedersandleechers May 2017 #19
"In America, 3_Limes May 2017 #4
Oh, god I never heard that one !! pangaia May 2017 #17
Welcome to DU, 3_Limes! calimary May 2017 #23
If you're prevented from voting because of onerous Voter ID laws, then it's not all your fault. nt pnwmom May 2017 #5
Yup!! It's a huge problem! And the machines are hackable! Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #8
Yes, their long term voter suppression project is working as planned. deurbano May 2017 #10
It's true. BainsBane May 2017 #7
And he chose Comey to head up the FBI eleny May 2017 #12
It shouldn't have come down to Comey's actions. CakeGrrl May 2017 #16
I don't think Comey tipped the race. I think he completely redefined the race with 11 days to go. StevieM May 2017 #24
amen. eleny May 2017 #29
Like I said - the 3 factors added up eleny May 2017 #28
massive k&r JHan May 2017 #13
K&R Scurrilous May 2017 #14
I think he is right Racygrandma May 2017 #15
Welcome to DU, Racygrandma! calimary May 2017 #26
So true. There are a lot of people who NEVER vote. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #18
I blame Republicans. They ordered the dossier over a year ago, they knew what his character was. Sunlei May 2017 #20
This is why I don't use or give weight to the word "deserve." RadiationTherapy May 2017 #21
While he's right, he's only right up to a point.. Texin May 2017 #22
Unfortunately Obama always took the easy route roomtomove May 2017 #25
Everyone should vote, but... CharleyDog May 2017 #27
We get the politicians a few rich crazies pay for. And he overestimates.. lostnfound May 2017 #30
A lot of people voted this time who pay attention only to Fox and breitbart. lostnfound May 2017 #31

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

marybourg

(12,621 posts)
9. The former President is a private citizen,
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:12 PM
May 2017

has no current privileged information and can discuss anything not revealed to him under his former security clearance just like we are doing now with our public knowledge. His reticence is due to good judgment and a sense of what is appropriate to a former President of the US, IMHO.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
23. Welcome to DU, 3_Limes!
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:09 PM
May 2017

That's a terrific quote, and would be hilarious were it not for these times now. Now it's sad, horrifying, and nauseating.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
8. Yup!! It's a huge problem! And the machines are hackable!
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

Paper ballots and unhackable counting machines or hand counting are a must!

eleny

(46,166 posts)
12. And he chose Comey to head up the FBI
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:17 PM
May 2017

All the factors added up to a Trump presidency.

Voter suppression + voter apathy + Comey = Trump

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
16. It shouldn't have come down to Comey's actions.
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:46 PM
May 2017

If we'd had France's voter turnout - which they consider low this cycle - the shift of fence-sitters who were swayed by Comey wouldn't have been a determining factor.

The margins in WI, PA and MI would not have held for Trump.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
24. I don't think Comey tipped the race. I think he completely redefined the race with 11 days to go.
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:11 PM
May 2017

Without his involvement I think she wins decisively.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
28. Like I said - the 3 factors added up
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:54 PM
May 2017

But the day Comey was announced as Obama's choice I got a sense of dread. That position should have gone to a loyal Dem. Reaching across the aisle was bullshit from the start. Good people can make bad decisions and this was one of O's bad decisions, imo.

Racygrandma

(109 posts)
15. I think he is right
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:41 PM
May 2017

I also blame the fake news sites. I think they had some impact. I saw a lot of friends posting fake and outrageous news on Facebook. I no longer see that. People are also vey tribal. I also blame the Evangelicals. I have always said they would vote for Adolph Hitler if he professed to be pro-life.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
26. Welcome to DU, Racygrandma!
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:21 PM
May 2017

He IS right. Regardless of the Russians, the Comey mess (which seems to be increasing instead of fading away), the Bible-thumpers, the Pox Noise crowd, hate radio, and our lovely friends behind Guccifer&Co, the bros, and the bots. REGARDLESS of all that - if our side doesn't bother to vote, WE LOSE.

And it's doubly tragic because there are MORE of US! WE outnumber the bad guys! There are MORE of US! There shouldn't even be a question or doubt. We lose it because our laziness, negligence, and/or apathy all contribute to more of us staying home on Election Day!

So President Obama is correct. It's US. It's all US. And it's up to US.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. So true. There are a lot of people who NEVER vote.
Tue May 9, 2017, 03:59 PM
May 2017

My brother doesn't vote because if he registers, he'll be called for jury duty. A lot of people do that, I think.

He's retired, so it would be no problem for him to serve on a jury. But it's a bother.

I've served on juries a few times. I view it as my civic duty and don't have a problem with it. It's inconvenient and a hassle. But if not me, then who? Some bozo who doesn't even understand what the lawyers are saying? Some extremist with an axe to grind?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. I blame Republicans. They ordered the dossier over a year ago, they knew what his character was.
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:18 PM
May 2017

IMO the Republican party wanted an unfit, dangerous and corrupt president.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
21. This is why I don't use or give weight to the word "deserve."
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:24 PM
May 2017

It is almost always a vague term used to make excuses or to place blame. If it was all up to the voters, then a campaign wouldn't be necessary; a candidate need only put up a website for voters to access and make their decisions.

Texin

(2,595 posts)
22. While he's right, he's only right up to a point..
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

He didn't also add the known fact that some people would rather vote against their own economic and social self-interests in order to support their own misogyny, racism, anti-intellectualism and xenophobia. If there's a handy minority regardless of how educated and how much they contribute to the country or their community, there are always demagogues that will exploit that. The majority of the elite will always vote in favor of their own elitist economic self-interest and there are those who will vote for justice and economic egalitarianism for the whole, but there are those, many of whom are poorly educated and lack intellectual curiosity or just have told to fear it, in depressed and economically challenged areas of the country, who can be - as they were in this past so-called election cycle - manipulated by evil (and I don't use that term loosely) people like tRump and their ilk to vote against their own collective interests in favor of pushing down minorities and "others" by telling those gullible voters that these "others" are solely and exclusively to blame for all their problems. It worked for Hitler and it worked with tRump, and it will continue to work until those voters can identify and draw a bulls eye on the guy who made their lives worse than where they started and they've felt the crushing burden of that disaster.

roomtomove

(217 posts)
25. Unfortunately Obama always took the easy route
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:18 PM
May 2017

1. Did not push single payer
2. Appointed milquetoast AG's who did not prosecute voter suppression
3. Appointed a republican FBI Chief
4. Did not campaign much in 2016
5. To me seemed more concerned about himself than what was going on
6. Meekly accepted the republican obstruction of the Supreme Court pick
7. Thought compromise with the republicans was the best approach

Now he blames the voters, when in actuality, the voters were disappointed in him.

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
27. Everyone should vote, but...
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:48 PM
May 2017

people working 2 jobs or more, $7.25 and hour, with families, and children in school, they often can't "pay attention." What we should expect is that our representatives actually do represent us and respond to our concerns and not hug us and then vote to let us die.

Being able to vote should be made easier, not harder, Obama (and I love Obama) did not champion voting rights, so thanks Obama.

lostnfound

(16,176 posts)
30. We get the politicians a few rich crazies pay for. And he overestimates..
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:42 AM
May 2017

He overestimates the thinking ability of the American public.

lostnfound

(16,176 posts)
31. A lot of people voted this time who pay attention only to Fox and breitbart.
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:43 AM
May 2017

It's better if they stay home.

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