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(11,243 posts)Now we see who the real Americans are.
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)and at this point it's also a political firestorm
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)It's "attempted" at this point. Only Americans can save America.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)Which isn't all that comforting, but it is at least a last lifeline.
davekriss
(4,616 posts)In 1973, the Senate and House both had Democratic majorities (I could be wrong).
In 2017, Trump is facing a friendly and probably complicit Senate and House.
I don't think this is the beginning of the end for Trump, but we may well be far along the collapse of our democracy.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Yes, Democratic majorities in House and Senate in 73-74.
tRump is rapidly becoming even more toxic for Republicons than he already is.
McCONnell is implicated and will not go against tRump. His wife got a payoff with a cabinet appointment.
But enough Republicons will desert tRump that he will go down.
byronius
(7,392 posts)If we make it that far.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)worstexever
(265 posts)Let's hope there are a few decent Republicans left. My hopes are pretty dim at this point.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Nixon had a different set up and Repugs were generally reasonable and patriotic. Most of these only see tax cuts and could care less if DT'S a crook, which he clearly is and has been.
dchill
(38,462 posts)The Russians DO.
DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)at the furious backlash. Apparently they thought Dems would be happy Comey was fired for his public statements re: Clinton email investigation.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Of course, the reasons are almost certainly attempted obstruction of justice, but that's another matter.
Given the state right-wing politics has come to, it shouldn't be hard for Rump to replace Comey with another conservative both corrupt enough to serve him and foolish enough to deliberately pick up a go-to-jail card.
As for Comey, we shouldn't be fooled by whatever scoundrel takes his place into forgetting that he misused his great power, betrayed his nation, and is dirty as hell. He couldn't be trusted to head the investigation into the Rump-Russia connection, and he needed firing because we should never allow such a person such power.
KatyMan
(4,188 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,710 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)the wheels of this coup began with the selection of little boots and shooter. Finalized with the stealing of this last election
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I just...never.
kentuck
(111,069 posts)I suspect Repubs will stand behind their Leader.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)Is there anyone with balls in Congress, Justice or law enforcement who will stop this coup?
I can't do it.
BBG
(2,530 posts)You are a constituent, you have senators and representatives, ring their bells.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)...of the US Federal Government and acts accordingly.
Resist.
spanone
(135,802 posts)when the white house owns the justice department you can do no wrong
sessions recused himself....sounds like he just re-inserted himself
dchill
(38,462 posts)a freaking crime?
Wednesdays
(17,331 posts)Sessions?
calimary
(81,179 posts)dchill
(38,462 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I can see it in hindsight, but for those quicker than me, on election night when the momentum for Hillary suddenly did a 180.
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)The difference from then and now is that repubs put country before party.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)as just a "third-rate burglary." IIRC, it wasn't until the Saturday Night Massacre, which was about 16 months after the break-in, that Republicans in Congress started breaking away from Nixon. When the GOPers start stepping in Trump's shit and can't scrape it off their shoes, they'll do the same thing. This event might be the start of it.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)Link: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/08/how-trump-could-get-fired
First, when the scandal emerged, the President underestimated the threat. There were any number of steps that could have made it go away, Evan Thomas, the author of Being Nixon, told me. They could have cleaned house and fired people. But Nixon assumed that his supporters would never believe the accusations. He was ahead by thirty-four points in the polls in August, 1972, Thomas went on. He could have taken his clothes off and run around the White House front yard and he was going to win reëlection.
As the scandal ground on, Nixon made his second mistake: he flouted the authority of a coequal branch of government. In October, 1973, Nixon refused to obey a federal appellate-court ruling that ordered him to turn over tapes of conversations in the Oval Office, and he forced out the investigations special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. For nine months, Nixon continued to resistin effect threatening the basic constitutional systemuntil, in July, 1974, the Supreme Court ruled that he had to comply. By then, the damage was done, and the House Judiciary Committee launched impeachment hearings. By thwarting other branches, Nixon weakened his support in Congress and convinced the country that he had something to hide. Until that point, much of the public had not focussed on the slow, complex investigation, but interviews at the time show that Nixons stonewalling made people pay attention, and he never recovered. Well, everything has added up to his incompetence over the last few months, and I dont think the American people should stand for it any longer, a woman interviewed in New York by the Associated Press said. In fact, I just signed an impeach petition.
By August, many of his top aides had been indicted, and polls showed that fifty-seven per cent of the public believed that Nixon should be removed from office. On August 6th, after a tape recording surfaced which captured him orchestrating the coverup, he was abandoned by Republicans who had previously derided the Watergate scandal as a witch hunt. Senator Barry Goldwater, of Arizona, told colleagues, Nixon should get his ass out of the White Housetoday! On August 9th, Nixon sent a letter to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger: Dear Mr. Secretary, I hereby resign the Office of President of the United States. Sincerely, Richard Nixon.