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JPK

(650 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:45 PM May 2017

The Constitution

The Constitution is a document that ONLY has any validity if those that are involved in government believe in it regardless of party. If not, it is just a piece of paper. When there are those in our government that exploit the fragility of our founding documents they are traitors.

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The Constitution (Original Post) JPK May 2017 OP
True. Igel May 2017 #1
Yes Solly Mack May 2017 #2

Igel

(35,274 posts)
1. True.
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:36 PM
May 2017

But they also must believe in a fairly consistent, uniform interpretation.

We like to think it's "living," meaning we can change the content without changing the form. But only in ways we think appropriate.

(R) often do the same thing: Except that when they change the content we think they're breaking faith with the form.

I think that the Constitution are words that had rather well-defined meanings and that those words are strung together to provide the meaning; it's not living, it's subject to a wide range of judicial interpretation and even caprice, which is a problem with language and echo chambers in general. There's a way to change the Constitution, but because we're so polarized and so insistent on our righteousness and the other side's evil (thoroughly reciprocated, of course), nobody can change it.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
2. Yes
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:43 PM
May 2017

Democratic governments exist at the consent of the governed. Once government decides it exists in spite of the governed then it ceases to be a government of the people.

Republicans have long ago abandoned the thinking that America's government exists by the consent of the people.

They are indeed traitors to the very ideals of a government of/by/for the people.

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