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MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:14 PM May 2017

Trump's Meeting with Those Two Russians Demonstrates

that he is totally unconcerned with appearances any longer. Having just fired the man leading the investigation into collusion by Trump Administration and campaign officials with Russia, he invites the Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador to the United States in for a closed door meeting.

This is not tone-deafness. It is a deliberate "in your face" insult to the American people. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is simply taunting us all, because he believes himself to be totally immune to any blowback.

The arrogance and cynicism this shows is beyond all bounds.

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Trump's Meeting with Those Two Russians Demonstrates (Original Post) MineralMan May 2017 OP
True Phoenix61 May 2017 #1
It's more than just that, though. MineralMan May 2017 #3
Yep, dropping all pretense HAB911 May 2017 #8
Billions of dollars are to be made, that's what this is all about. L. Coyote May 2017 #19
It's the Oval Office version of the pee tape Generic Brad May 2017 #47
K&Rnt gademocrat7 May 2017 #2
You are exactly correct CanonRay May 2017 #4
Clearly. And it's not just aimed at the American People. MineralMan May 2017 #5
Key sentence:..." He has the power to fire anyone who investigates him, he thinks." Stuart G May 2017 #21
Agreed. MuseRider May 2017 #6
Exactly a well coordinated FUCK YOU to the others rufus dog May 2017 #7
And to the deplorables, he is an American hero who doesn't have to care about any stinking laws world wide wally May 2017 #9
Hubris. MFM008 May 2017 #10
i think he wants to be impeached. its too much work. he is over his head. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #11
This is his metaphorical "shooting someone on 5th Ave" moment... Wounded Bear May 2017 #12
You said it! colorado_ufo May 2017 #23
What you said Hekate May 2017 #38
Bingo. dalton99a May 2017 #48
He's had a lot of those moments. progressoid May 2017 #52
What if Obama had done something like that? The Congress should act with that in mind. nikibatts May 2017 #13
I think we'll prove him wrong lunatica May 2017 #14
My sister wrote this to me,"We are officially a Banana Republic". BigmanPigman May 2017 #26
Or a Russian satellite. WinkyDink May 2017 #43
"totally immune" only because of Republican's inaction and collusion. rogue emissary May 2017 #15
He's an arrogant prick who just gave America the middle finger. CousinIT May 2017 #16
SOMEONE will take umbrage and make Trump pay the ultimate price Mr. Ected May 2017 #17
Maybe he's seeking asylum? Never too early to set up an exit strategy. nt Xipe Totec May 2017 #18
Just Two Gangs Joining Forces. A-Schwarzenegger May 2017 #20
Russia mzteaze May 2017 #22
X1000! colorado_ufo May 2017 #25
A few thoughts BadgerMom May 2017 #24
The Republican Party and Russia have created a Frankenstein. njhoneybadger May 2017 #27
If that's what it takes, so be it. notdarkyet May 2017 #35
I like your thought process..... BlueJac May 2017 #28
Thank you, although I think it is quite obvious, really. MineralMan May 2017 #30
At his age and state of health, "the end" would even be plausible Hekate May 2017 #39
And then, inviting the press into what they THINK is a meeting with the Russians... TygrBright May 2017 #29
Yup. Trump is in mid-gloat right now. MineralMan May 2017 #31
When you are the fuhrer, you do what you want. lark May 2017 #32
He only thinks he is that. MineralMan May 2017 #33
Hes both too stupid and has too much hubris to realize his true danger. lark May 2017 #36
I get that Putin likes to kill people. lark May 2017 #50
I trust he knows the end of that story, and that he has a Trump Bunker. WinkyDink May 2017 #44
Bingo Hekate May 2017 #34
Hes both too stupid and has too much hubris to realize his true danger. Texin May 2017 #37
Just like dragging MFM008 May 2017 #40
Criminals attract criminals. WinkyDink May 2017 #42
"The arrogance and cynicism this shows is beyond all bounds." It is SO staggering, that we witnesses WinkyDink May 2017 #41
His attitude --- "I'm calling the plays now." lpbk2713 May 2017 #45
Gee, I just thought he was being his usual clueless self tavalon May 2017 #46
I think Putin gave him a playbook to follow ecstatic May 2017 #49
I don't think he was ever concerned Cha May 2017 #51

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
1. True
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:22 PM
May 2017

We exist but only to the extent we serve a purpose. We are nothing but cheering crowds or sheep to be fleeced. He will be in psych textbooks as the definitive definition of narcisstic personality disorder.

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
3. It's more than just that, though.
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:24 PM
May 2017

This meeting today, and the photos coming out of it is Trump giving the finger to everyone.

"See what I can do? People are whining about collusion with the Russians. And here I am, meeting with two of them. Suck on that, America!"

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Billions of dollars are to be made, that's what this is all about.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:00 PM
May 2017

The Russian economy depends on the oil and gas industry, especially the profits of the mobsters, and therefore billions of dollars are riding on how well they can control their tool in the White House.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
47. It's the Oval Office version of the pee tape
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:22 AM
May 2017

Except this time he is making sure to piss on all of us.

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
5. Clearly. And it's not just aimed at the American People.
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

He's extending his middle finger to Democrats in Congress and everyone else. He's saying "Fuck you" to everyone. He has the power to fire anyone who investigates him, he thinks.

I don't like Presidents who flip me off. I don't like them one bit.

We have to find a way to remove this man from that office. Otherwise, he will continue to give us the finger, again and again.

The arrogance of it!

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
21. Key sentence:..." He has the power to fire anyone who investigates him, he thinks."
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:10 PM
May 2017

That is what .."he thinks" and he is wrong.

We remember Watergate and it took time, This will also take time.
Even if it takes 8 months more, it takes time...When he gives the finger again to other Americans, then some will climb off his wagon on to ours. The truth will take time..Let us hope it isn't too long..

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
6. Agreed.
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:27 PM
May 2017

This man is an atrocious human being. He has and never has had any business anywhere near the running of our country. To be associated with this man as a citizen is disgusting.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
7. Exactly a well coordinated FUCK YOU to the others
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:31 PM
May 2017

People are falling for "they weren't prepared for the blow back."

It was all planned, and he doesn't care. What everyone needs to get through their heads is EVERY FUCKING REPUBLICAN doesn't care. Until they prove otherwise everyone of them needs to be treated as an enemy to democracy. Those voted into office AND those who voted for him.

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
10. Hubris.
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:47 PM
May 2017

Hey, the Russkies were just checking out their latest purchase, the supposed peoples house and the orange toad within, when the American media is not invited to the meeting but TASS is.


Dasvidaniya

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. I think we'll prove him wrong
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:16 PM
May 2017

Or we'll have to just get used to the new country we inhabit. One he'll rapidly turn into a third world contender.

CousinIT

(9,238 posts)
16. He's an arrogant prick who just gave America the middle finger.
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:26 PM
May 2017

IOW: "Fuck YOU. I'm UNTOUCHABLE and I'll do as I damn well please and fire anyone who investigates my illegal, unethical and treasonous behavior - laws and rules and constitutions don't apply to ME!"

YET the Republicans STILL are REFUSING to allow an independent committee and a special prosecutor to investigate this psychopath.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. SOMEONE will take umbrage and make Trump pay the ultimate price
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:34 PM
May 2017

You don't mess with the IC, especially when the IC has knowledge of facts that we, the public, currently only hold as conjecture.

His public statements about the FBI, about our judiciary, about our press: all of it antithetical to the basic tenets of American constitutional law and protection. If not abject treason, the impostor in the Oval Office is guilty of debasing our nation, something the POTUS should never do.

The Russian traitor is going down, one way or another.



mzteaze

(448 posts)
22. Russia
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:20 PM
May 2017

Russia was flexing muscles today between the Putin interview in his hockey uniform & the Russian henchmen in the oval with Kissinger. No American media, just Russian in the WH. Let that sink in.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
24. A few thoughts
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:34 PM
May 2017

1. Putin needed a win to soothe himself after Macron's victory in France. Trump has provided that.

2. Trump has been brazen from the beginning. He nominated Tillerson as news of the Rozneft 19% sale was breaking. He is a bully and he's taunting us.

3. Trump wants the money from the oil and the raw power of the presidency. Putin wants the money from the oil for himself and to underwrite the rebirth of the old USSR. If he invades the old USSR territory, he needs income to sustain the larger nation. The oil in the arctic would provide it.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
27. The Republican Party and Russia have created a Frankenstein.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:40 PM
May 2017

In my mind I see a million people with pitchforks and torches storming the White House.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
28. I like your thought process.....
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

I think you nailed the traitor President and where his loyalties lie. Follow the money!!!! That is the only thing that really matters, anywhere in this fucked up world!

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
30. Thank you, although I think it is quite obvious, really.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:55 PM
May 2017

Trump is drunk with what he believes is new power. Instead, he is simply addled into thinking that the Russians like him. They don't, of course. They are smart enough to know that he's an incompetent boob who can be lead around by a ring in his nose.

When he is no longer useful to him, or goes against their wishes, they will make an end of him, I suspect. The Russians have wicked skills at eliminating people who have ended their usefulness.

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
29. And then, inviting the press into what they THINK is a meeting with the Russians...
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:54 PM
May 2017

...to see the Prince of Darkness sitting there grinning at them...

I think you're right.

disgustedly,
Bright

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
31. Yup. Trump is in mid-gloat right now.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:56 PM
May 2017

Soon, I hope, that smile will disappear as he realizes that he is less powerful than he supposes.

Trump is headed for a fall, and it may be one he does not survive, if the Russians wish that to be so.

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
33. He only thinks he is that.
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:06 PM
May 2017

He is not. He is merely a tool. Right now, he's a Russian tool. He needs to be paying close attention, though. When the Russians are done with him, he will be at risk of being done permanently.

The Russians have made a science of doing away with people who are not longer useful to them. Trump should be afraid. He should be very afraid, I think.

"Here, Mr. Trump. Try one of these candies. They are a gift from your friend, Vladimir Putin. Are they not delicious? Do have another."

lark

(23,091 posts)
36. Hes both too stupid and has too much hubris to realize his true danger.
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:08 PM
May 2017

I don't think Russia will kill him, they can do better than that to sow chaos. I think they will present all their evidence of him being a traitor, along with his most of his cabinet and hopefully Ryan and McTurtle as well.

lark

(23,091 posts)
50. I get that Putin likes to kill people.
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:26 AM
May 2017

However, I really think he'll go bigger and try to take down the entire government which is really taking down the Repug party. drumpf is a fool, he thinks he and Putin are partners when in truth he's just the puppet. I think Russia, once they have all sanctions removed and NATO effectively hamstringed, he will want to destroy us by letting out the real truth, sending tapes and videos of drumpf, Pence, Sessions, Ryan and McTurtle colluding against our country and maybe even golden showers tapes? He'll want max destruction, and it appears he has the means to take them down.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
37. Hes both too stupid and has too much hubris to realize his true danger.
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:20 PM
May 2017

Lark, He is in no danger whatsoever when the likes of Mitch No-Neck McConnell assert that there's no need for any special investigator/prosecutor. Even if the Congress decided to begin impeachment proceedings - which they won't - they can't ultimately decide his fate. That would on the Senate and if McConnell is unwilling to even discuss a special prosecutor amidst what's going on, this is not going anywhere until and unless he has become a radioactive political disability to the whole party. They are unmoved by any of this. It will be business as usual in the halls of congress until Putin actually sets up his office on the Potomac, and then I'm not sure McConnell wouldn't be hosting High Tea for him.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
41. "The arrogance and cynicism this shows is beyond all bounds." It is SO staggering, that we witnesses
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:41 PM
May 2017

are essentially like creatures mesmerized by the cobra's movement.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
45. His attitude --- "I'm calling the plays now."
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:47 PM
May 2017



"And there's not a damn thing any of you little people can do about it."

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
46. Gee, I just thought he was being his usual clueless self
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:16 AM
May 2017

And that he has no advisors with any political sense. The optics of today were embarrassing.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
49. I think Putin gave him a playbook to follow
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:39 AM
May 2017

And he's following it to a letter.

See what you can get away with. Push the limit further each time. Don't worry, Don, I've got dirt on 1/3 of your government officials.

We're in a gradual march towards a totalitarian regime.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
51. I don't think he was ever concerned
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:15 AM
May 2017

with appearances.. it's more blatant now because he's in deeper shit.

From the big shit eating grin.. it looks as though he feels more confident after firing comey "for scewing Hillary out of the Presidency".


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