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said Trump's been thinking about firing him since the election - Nov
I got it, they are trying to make us think we are crazy
MADem
(135,425 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,057 posts)about how long Trump has been unhappy with Comey?
Remember, back then, Comey had recently handed the election to Trump - and Trump mistakenly believed that meant Comey was loyal to him. When Comey continued to investigate the Russian election interference, and asked for additional funds 2-3 days ago to speed up the investigation, that was perceived by Trump as disloyalty. Above all else, Trump punishes disloyalty. And he makes junk up out of whole cloth to explain it.
And he demands his mouthpieces either spout his lies or make up their own - becasue if they don't, they will immediately be perceived as disloyal - and publicly fired.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)For us to believe that Trump would fire just because Comey broke some State Dept protocol is ridiculous.
For me, the biggest "tell" is that they are implicating the attys who sent letters/recommendation. That was a weak cover and ridiculous and stinks of coverup. If you have a valid concern (other than trying to fire the person investigating you) you wouldn't have to make up this ruse.
MADem
(135,425 posts)how Trump is not being investigated, Trump rather stupidly broke the "Executive Privilege" bubble. Trump lied about that, and Comey now can answer him in public.
That firing letter is the beginning of the end, I think. I hope I'm right. To my mind, that was a fuckup of major proportions.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)It's only happened twice, and context is really, really important.
Comey, never mind his shortcomings, ego and hubris, has done a "capable" job of leading the FBI. He has demonstrated integrity throughout his career even when he lacks judgment. His mistakes are more of the "cross every t, dot every i, micromanage, overcorrect, and account for any/every possibility" sort than they are of the "Let me fuck that one over" variety. He was the guy who hired "Fitzmas" and he was also the guy who told Andy Card and Alberto Gonzales to go fuck themselves when they tried to get a drugged John "let the eagle soar" Ashcroft to sign off on authorizations when he had ceded his authority to his subordinate due to major surgery.
I'm sure you probably remember when Bill Clinton fired William (not Jeff-LOL) Sessions .... it does seem that anyone named Sessions in federal government is bound to be a fuck-up, doesn't it? Talk about dramatically different circumstances. What's funny, though, is how Trump thought he was copying Clinton when he pulled this stunt (he copies Clinton terribly--the curtains in the Oval Office are the "Bill Clinton curtains" down to the swags).
http://www.businessinsider.com/last-fbi-director-fired-bill-clinton-william-sessions-2017-5
In 1993, Bill Clinton became the first US president to dismiss the head of the bureau. He did so after the Department of Justice produced a 161-page internal report with sworn testimony from more than 100 FBI agents citing the numerous and severe ethical failures of its director, William Sessions.
Clinton called Sessions twice the day he fired him once to inform him he was dismissed and again to remind him his termination was effective immediately. He then held a press conference to explain his decision. He also had Louis Freeh lined up as a replacement.
Clinton's moves are in dramatic contrast to President Donald Trump's Tuesday dismissal of FBI Director James Comey, who was overseeing an investigation involving the president's campaign.....The Justice Department's report about William Sessions, published in January 1993, recounted how the director frequently abused his power and misused FBI resources to fund travel and vacations for him and his wife, Alice.
Sessions "improperly billed the FBI nearly $10,000 for a fence around his home, and refused to turn over documents on his $375,000 home mortgage, which investigators said they suspected involved a 'sweetheart deal,'" The Washington Post reported at the time...
Sessions was a crook and his subordinates DESPISED him. Comey, OTOH, is beloved by agents in the field. They're going to make more trouble for Trump with Comey gone than they might have with him there. Either way, the orange shitbird has got trouble ahead.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)FBI Directors are appointed for a 10 year term and a reappointment is not needed unless the President chooses to reappointment them at the end of the 10 year term
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)much same difference. if he was thinking about axing him - why have him in oval office like he was staying?
awesomerwb
(139 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)how his actions hurt our candidate compared to the more recent FUCKING CONNIVING WITH RUSSIANS investigations
malaise
(268,850 posts)We're not crazy - they are pathological LIARS going full steam ahead with their coverup
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
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malaise
(268,850 posts)Love it