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Trump says he invented an 84-year-old phrase. But, why?
By Philip Bump May 11 at 8:57 AM
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.................But we also know Trump didnt invent the phrase because he has used it any number of times in the past.
He said it in an interview with Fox News Channel last month: Itll take a period of time, and youre going to have some deficits in the meantime, its, sort of, called priming the pump, you have to prime the pump, but look, the numbers just came out yesterday really, the real numbers.
He said it in a speech in December: Were going to prime the pump. Were going to prime the pump. We got to get the jobs. We got 96 million people out there. We got to get them going, and they want to work.
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He said it in his interview with Time magazine when he was awarded the Person of the Year title: Well, sometimes you have to prime the pump.
So we return to the initial question: Was he joking?
In normal circumstances, it seems like the natural assumption. A written transcript necessarily strips out the manner in which words were said, and Trump does have a habit of nudgingly toying with those to whom hes speaking. Ya ever heard of it, Trump might say, winking to the reporters from the Economist.
no_hypocrisy
(46,097 posts)subject to termination on an at will basis (can be fired for any reason or no reason at all). What qualifies/limits that legal employment doctrine is that one cannot be terminated when it's on the basis of a violation of public policy.
For instance, you can be a secretary for an administrator and you're fired, just because. But you can't be fired because of your race, your national origin, your religion, and/or your sex. (Courts disagree about sexual orientation.)
In this situation, if you're the Director of the FBI, doing your job competently and you're fired because you're doing your job too well, i.e., you're going to provide the basis for possible impeachment at best (humiliation at least) for the President of the United States (and jeopardize his future business deals with Russia and/or repayment of his debt to it), then I would say that's a violation of public policy and the termination was unlawful.
shraby
(21,946 posts)doesn't even know where the term comes from.
brush
(53,776 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts). . .its use in macroeconomic parlance. Certainly you're correct, that since the invention of centrifugal pumps, priming a pump was common knowledge. That goes back to before the industrial revolution.
That said, i thought i read right here at DU that the use of this term in a macroeconomic sense went back to the early 20th century, which would be older than 84 years. 84 years ago was the Roaring 20's and there would have been no need to "prime the pump" during that economy.
brush
(53,776 posts)Puh-leeze.
I said pumps are older than 84 meaning they were being primed and people being told "you have to prime it first" long before trump came along.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)People have known what priming a pump is for a very long time. And the term has been referenced with regard to government intervention in the economy for a long time, just not as long. And we completely agree on "puh-leeze"!
unc70
(6,113 posts)The typical vacuum hand pump has been around many hundreds of years. They depend on water above the valve to maintain the seal and thus the vacuum. Most such pumps willl leak away that essential ingredient within minutes or hours, rendering the pump useless for nail that water is replaced. A container of water is usuallly kept by the pump for this purpose. It is poured into the pump, reestablishing the vacuum seal, and priming the pump. "Starter" water. To prime the pump was to get something started.
Has nothing to do with macro economics. A far more general term.
BTW we had several simple hand pumps on our farm including one on the back porch for when the water electricity went out. Once you had primed a pump, the first thing you did was refill the container.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)I know that! I'm saying that this term became used in macroeconomics, but quite a long time ago. Keynes himself used the term in the 30's.
So, it DOES have something to do with macroeconomics, but the term goes back to a couple centuries ago long before we were using it in any other sense.
Now "it" is using the term, macroeconomically, and thinks it's something new.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)was in early 19th century.
It is the term's use as an economic metaphor that is 84 years old.
brush
(53,776 posts)and for trump to think he invented it in an economic sense, like I said: What crap.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,313 posts)The Oxford English Dictionary's examples:
1819 Scott Let. 18 Jan. (1933) V. 295 Thus ended her attempt, notwithstanding her having primed the pump with a good dose of flattery.
1916 Everybody's Mag. 35 131 When the waters of business are stagnant, gentlemen, it becomes necessary, if I may say so, to prime the pump.
'Scott' is Sir walter Scott; Everybody's Magazine was a New York magazine published from 1899 to 1929: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Magazine
Orsino
(37,428 posts)I wouldn't read that statement less as Trump claiming to have invented the phrase, but more as a confession that he doesn't remember it ever being used before, even by himself.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)All the guys would yell it out loud and laugh as they told the women to chug water.