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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:11 AM May 2017

Trumps Oval Office meeting with Russian officials grows more alarming

Trump’s Oval Office meeting with Russian officials grows more alarming
05/11/17 10:11 AM—Updated 05/11/17 10:18 AM
By Steve Benen


At face value, it looked ridiculous. The day after Donald Trump fired the FBI director overseeing the investigation into the Russia scandal, the president welcomed Russian officials into the Oval Office for a chat. Soon after, the world was treated to photographs from the Russian Foreign Ministry – not the White House or U.S. news organizations – of Trump shaking hands with Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

It wasn’t long before many started wondering why American journalists were barred from the event, but Russia’s official news agency was allowed in.

The Washington Post took this a step further, highlighting the possibility of a security breach.

A photographer for a Russian state-owned news agency was allowed into the Oval Office on Wednesday during President Trump’s meeting with Russian diplomats, a level of access that was criticized by former U.S. intelligence officials as a potential security breach.

The officials cited the danger that a listening device or other surveillance equipment could have been brought into the Oval Office while hidden in cameras or other electronics. Former U.S. intelligence officials raised questions after photos of Trump’s meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov were posted online by the Tass news agency…. Other former intelligence officials also described the access granted to the photographer as a potential security lapse, noting that standard screening for White House visitors would not necessarily detect a sophisticated espionage device.


Former deputy CIA director David S. Cohen was asked on Twitter yesterday whether it was wise to allow a Russian government photographer and his equipment into the Oval Office.

“No,” Cohen replied, “it was not.”


So why in the world did Team Trump let this happen?

Apparently, the White House was told that the photographer worked with Lavrov, not that he also worked for Russia’s state-owned news agency.

A White House official told CNN, in reference to the Russians, “They tricked us.”

If this explanation is intended to inspire confidence, it’s not working.


Postscript: Incidentally, why did the president agree to host this meeting? “He chose to receive him because Putin asked him to,” a White House spokesman said of Trump’s Lavrov meeting.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-oval-office-meeting-russian-officials-grows-more-alarming
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Trumps Oval Office meeting with Russian officials grows more alarming (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
One would think that even his most ardent supporters would stop and pause GusBob May 2017 #1
It would only stick in their craw if Obama or Hillary did it. nt Lucky Luciano May 2017 #37
Anyone with a D after their name would have outraged them rpannier May 2017 #44
And here is the tweet evidence ... PsychoBabble May 2017 #2
Future news: After a tumultuous period as president, #45 vacated the WH NCjack May 2017 #3
.. orangecrush May 2017 #10
No kidding. I hope the CIA did sweep the room. This is insane to let the Russians in. The Wielding Truth May 2017 #36
but, did the CIA do an "extreme sweeping"? NCjack May 2017 #43
In bed with Russia bug Generic Other May 2017 #42
I have reconsidered my opposition to firing squads. GoCubsGo May 2017 #4
And, of course, had it been the Russian government photographer... regnaD kciN May 2017 #5
a most excellent point! niyad May 2017 #6
which i dont doubt they have already done. mopinko May 2017 #7
Nah, they would only have needed to have dinner there. nt tblue37 May 2017 #8
And Trump would have picked up the tab. colorado_ufo May 2017 #14
Remember this security breach at Mar-a-Lago? tblue37 May 2017 #33
"Putin asked him to"---If by "asked" was meant "commanded." WinkyDink May 2017 #9
"Asked " would have been more than enough. colorado_ufo May 2017 #15
True dat. WinkyDink May 2017 #21
After he was videoed during the "golden shower" incident Fritz Walter May 2017 #11
Suggestion for Sean Hannity's program tonight Mr. Ected May 2017 #12
So now both Obama and putin tapp Trump? L. Coyote May 2017 #13
So, White House officials thought the photographer with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was TeamPooka May 2017 #16
And these Repub clownfucks GallopingGhost May 2017 #17
Putin was just testing the strings... FailureToCommunicate May 2017 #18
I hope this is spread everwhere. Remember when Banon, Alice11111 May 2017 #29
So where are all these republicans... Catherine Vincent May 2017 #19
Good Lord! librechik May 2017 #20
How do you say "stooge" in Russian? nolabear May 2017 #22
марионетка neeksgeek May 2017 #26
LOL dae May 2017 #34
marionette....puppet. Putin's stooge. This is so embarrassing and also dangerous. The Wielding Truth May 2017 #39
Helluva postscript there. Talk about burying the lede. suffragette May 2017 #23
A White House official told CNN, as they watched the incoming missiles ... Jopin Klobe May 2017 #24
Unreal! How naive &stupid we look to the world. Alice11111 May 2017 #30
Did the Donald have a taster for his glass of water? BigmanPigman May 2017 #25
Polonium is much easier to work with. neeksgeek May 2017 #27
How could Trump be tricked so easily? NewJeffCT May 2017 #28
So its true; Trump is Putin's Bitch! procon May 2017 #31
And had to show something tangible for Enoki33 May 2017 #35
"Because Putin asked him to." eom Beartracks May 2017 #32
I figure there was already a direct link between Drumpt and Putin in the Oval. kairos12 May 2017 #38
Theremins Bug: How the Soviet Union Spied on the US Embassy for 7 Years keithbvadu2 May 2017 #40
he could have been assassinated.... TalenaGor May 2017 #41
A Russkie planting a camera? Oh, noskies! malthaussen May 2017 #45

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
1. One would think that even his most ardent supporters would stop and pause
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:20 AM
May 2017

This may be a ridiculous assumption, but one has to wonder, even amongst his most hard-core supporters, the optics of this sequence of events would stick in their craw. Just for the timing alone

I mean, even if they agree with the firing of Comey, this whole thing of having the Russians in the WH the very next day....they would say 'jeez buddy, show a little bit of circumspection, this just looks stupid'

Now they are saying they were duped....see above

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
44. Anyone with a D after their name would have outraged them
Fri May 12, 2017, 04:44 AM
May 2017

Even if it had only been a discussion about the possibility of letting them in and then it had been discarded as a bad idea. They'd be complaining
Hair Douchengroper does it, nary a peep, except for lame enabling excuses

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
3. Future news: After a tumultuous period as president, #45 vacated the WH
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:27 AM
May 2017

and the newly elected DEM president prepared to occupy the premises. CIA "sweepers" found Russian "bugs" cleverly hidden such they could be detected only by "extreme sweeping", which #45 had not allowed. It seems #45 may have wanted to be "bugged". The CIA is especially impressed by the advanced state-of-art of the "bugs" which are smaller than anything we have and were recharged weekly by human blood. DNA analysis shows that #45 was the blood source. Apparently, he bled red for Pootie.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
4. I have reconsidered my opposition to firing squads.
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:27 AM
May 2017

The sooner these treasonous assholes are put in front of one, the happier I will be.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
5. And, of course, had it been the Russian government photographer...
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

...we could have been sure he never would have done anything like plant a listening device!



Anyway, it's no big deal. It's only the Oval Office. If the Russians really wanted to listen in on Trump conducting sensitive presidential business, they would have needed to bug Mar-a-Lago.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
33. Remember this security breach at Mar-a-Lago?
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017


That is why the Russians wouldn't need to plant bugs there. Trump cavalierly conducts national security business right there where club members can take pictures and post them online, and where his aides use their cellphones (which can pick up and transmit audio to snoopers!) to light the pages for him.

The same guy who posted this picture also posted a pic of himself and the guy with the nuclear football:



And then there is the secure lockbag left out in the open with the key in it--while all sorts of people without the requisite clearance were traipsing about:



Putin doesn't need to incur any expense in bugging Trump, since Trump has no clue about security.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
11. After he was videoed during the "golden shower" incident
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:21 PM
May 2017

This comes as no surprise.

Hell, the Oval Office is probably already crawling with other types of bugs since April 20: head lice.
4 Hours at the White House with Ted Nugent, Sarah Palin and Kid Rock.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. Suggestion for Sean Hannity's program tonight
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:25 PM
May 2017

Compare and contrast the suggested danger to national security due to Hillary's private server use vs. the very real security breach occasioned by a White House that allowed itself to be "tricked" by a hostile foreign sovereign.



TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
16. So, White House officials thought the photographer with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:02 PM
May 2017

NOT an official Russian government photographer?
I want to play poker, negotiate a trade deal, or just barter and trade with these Trump suckers.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
29. I hope this is spread everwhere. Remember when Banon,
Thu May 11, 2017, 02:19 PM
May 2017

As the puppeteer, was on the Economist. DT was so threatened that he got busy lowering Banon's status.

Ridicule is one of the few, and the best, tools we have in this country now, which has nearly lost it's checks and balances. Thanks to our late night comedians!

Catherine Vincent

(34,489 posts)
19. So where are all these republicans...
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:08 PM
May 2017

So where are all these republicans that were outraged when WJC allowed Monica in the oval office insinuating that she could have been a mole for a foreign government and possibly blackmail the potus?

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
30. Unreal! How naive &stupid we look to the world.
Thu May 11, 2017, 02:25 PM
May 2017

Some of these people are paid top dollar with lifetime benefits to do an extremely competent job, and no one caught that? I bet if you presented this scenario to a Jr. High class, "what is wrong with this scenario, if you are an US intelligence agent?" At least half of the class could tell you.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
28. How could Trump be tricked so easily?
Thu May 11, 2017, 02:13 PM
May 2017

I mean, he tells us over and over that he's "really really smart" and that he knows more than the generals. I mean, he had an uncle that was a professor at MIT, so that means Dollhands Donny must be smart, too.

kairos12

(12,858 posts)
38. I figure there was already a direct link between Drumpt and Putin in the Oval.
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:58 PM
May 2017

How else would Drumpt get his marching orders.

keithbvadu2

(36,786 posts)
40. Theremins Bug: How the Soviet Union Spied on the US Embassy for 7 Years
Thu May 11, 2017, 10:05 PM
May 2017

Theremin’s Bug: How the Soviet Union Spied on the US Embassy for 7 Years

http://hackaday.com/2015/12/08/theremins-bug/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)

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